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Beary

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Posted by Beary > 2020-03-01 10:45 | Report Abuse

You are finished atuk.

PH is also finished.

Once mooyiddeen is sworn in those lalang MPs will crawl over to him like ants to sugar.

But mooyiddeen is the least of your worries for now.

He is just a sitting duck pm.

Even if you can't bring him down, umno and pas will.

Umno and pas will plot for a snap general election and will come back stronger.

Very soon MACC will come knocking at your door and your sons' too.

I now hope you don't go soon and continue to live beyond 100.

Jokers2020

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Posted by Jokers2020 > 2020-03-01 10:47 | Report Abuse

ENDGAME liow

izoklse

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Posted by izoklse > 2020-03-01 10:50 | Report Abuse

Dulu PM4 gulingkan kerajaan Najib.

Lepas itu, PM7 gulingkan kerajaan PM7.

Last-last, PM 7i digulingkan oleh PM8.

Ini akan masuk buku sejarah Malaysia.

Klasik De-Ja-Vu.. Karma.

probability

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Posted by probability > 2020-03-01 11:24 | Report Abuse

This is how you can get your evil objective done and die as a saint....well done Tun.

ahbah

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Posted by ahbah > 2020-03-01 11:26 | Report Abuse

We got mani political macau scheme. We no want this !

We want leaders who take care of our Bursa n our economy.

TrippleZ

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Posted by TrippleZ > 2020-03-01 11:57 | Report Abuse

PM7 resigned so that he can become PM8 but the plan failed. hihi

TrippleZ

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Posted by TrippleZ > 2020-03-01 11:59 | Report Abuse

Never mind, not everyone buy every version of iPhones. Skip PM8, Tun M can wait for PM9. hihi

GooShem

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Posted by GooShem > 2020-03-01 12:00 | Report Abuse

hahaa. end game lar. lou mah you loss d

value88

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Posted by value88 > 2020-03-01 12:06 | Report Abuse

Tun played with fire, and is burned by fire now.
Tun resigned from PM7, and then worked desperately to become PM8 last night till this morning, but failed.

PH won in last GE mainly due to Tun, and lost the government today mainly due to Tun too. So is Tun a hero or a zero ??

fl888

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Posted by fl888 > 2020-03-01 23:59 | Report Abuse

If the traitors has a conscience, how they can sleep peacefully is imaginable

Posted by EngineeringProfit > 2020-03-02 06:06 | Report Abuse

Posted by ahbah : We got mani political macau scheme. We no want this !

We want leaders who take care of our Bursa n our economy

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Your deep state betrayed you throughout 20 months - allowing kacau bilau to happen on regular basis. Home ministry zzzzzzzzzzz - cahooting with Sith Dark Lords- allowing Attack of the Clones, while deep state created fears and Phantom Menace.

Instead of putting a fullstop to these nonsense, your yes-men who are from the DarkSide, scheduled you to what dignity congress .......... driving in more members from the Darkside......before finally tricked you into calling for Order 66 which sacrificed all the Jedi who were dedicated, principled and innocent.

Posted by ThousandWishes > 2020-03-08 13:20 | Report Abuse

Winning is not everything, beware the poisoned chalice and the pyrrhic victory — Ronnie Ooi MARCH 6 — This article argues that Pakatan Harapan should not table a motion of no confidence against Tan Sri Muhyiddin Yassin’s government (composed of Bersatu, Umno, PAS, GPS, MCA and MIC) at the next Parliamentary session. In the unlikely event that Harapan wins the vote of no confidence, either there will be a snap election, which is by far the most likely outcome, or Tun Dr Mahathir Mohamad will be appointed the 9th Prime Minister. Both outcomes are disastrous for the future of Harapan and the country. Now is the time for Harapan to deeply reflect on what went wrong, and why it went wrong, and not dream about getting back to power. The first step to the recovery of Harapan is clearly the removal of Dr Mahathir as leader of Harapan.

Poisoned chalice and pyrrhic victory are English expressions which Malaysians may not be familiar with. But they represent political events which should be taken into account in the current political situation. At first sight tabling a motion of no confidence is the obvious thing to do. What can be more important than to be in government?

But beware the poisoned chalice. A chalice is a magnificent drinking vessel used to drink a toast. In the Middle Ages it was famously used by a Catholic Pope to poison his rival. A poisoned chalice is something which seems at first to be very attractive but in time will cause failure or trouble. Becoming Prime Minister again after the victory of GE14 was a poisoned chalice for Dr Mahathir. What appeared to be a glittering opportunity to enhance his legacy to the nation turned into ashes, with his reputation destroyed.


With the Covid-19 pandemic anticipated to cause a world recession, factions jostling for position, and treacherous MPs, the job of Prime Minister has got even more difficult. Why not let Muhyiddin drink from the poisoned chalice of being Prime Minister and let him take the blame and anger of the people for the pain of a world recession?

In my view the vote of no confidence is unlikely to succeed because Dr Mahathir’s declared 114 supporters are not a solid band of people with similar ideology, objectives, and integrity. By the time the vote of no confidence can be tabled, some will have melted away. The Agong is right not to rely on the list which is very much in the nature of here today and gone to-morrow.

If Harapan is committed to a vote of no confidence, it is committed to retaining Dr Mahathir as leader, in order to benefit from the extra votes he brings to Harapan. In the unlikely event that the vote of no confidence succeeds, then it will only be a pyrrhic victory for Harapan. A pyrrhic victory is one where the cost or consequence of victory is so great that the victor is unable to benefit from it or be even ruined by it.

If the vote of no confidence succeeds, one of two things will happen: either the Agong will dissolve Parliament for a snap election, which is by far the most likely option, or appoint Dr Mahathir as the 9th Prime Minister. Both outcomes are far worse for the future of Harapan and those who want to see a New Malaysia than allowing Muhyiddin’s backdoor Perikatan government an opportunity to show us what they can do.

Snap election?

So before proceeding with a vote of no confidence, Harapan and its supporters must ask themselves how prepared they are to face a snap election?

The answer must be “completely unprepared”. The first question is: who is going to lead Pakatan? If it is Dr Mahathir, is Pakatan going to spin the same story of Dr Mahathir ruling for two years before passing on the baton to Datuk Seri Anwar Ibrahim? Having seen Dr Mahathir’s plots, lies and manoeuvres to deny Anwar the succession unravel before their eyes, nobody is going to believe this story anymore. Can Anwar ever trust Dr Mahathir again? If Anwar is going to lead Pakatan, the question will be how Anwar can control the country if he cannot control his own party?

For both men, there will be the suspicion amongst the Malays that it will be the DAP pulling the strings in a Harapan government. The public is fed up with the constant politicking and lost faith in Harapan. The non-Muslims may not vote Perikatan Nasional but they will certainly ask themselves why bother to vote at all? DAP will probably still gather votes as the protector of the non-Muslims against a Perikatan coalition but why would the Malays vote for Harapan?

How about the Harapan Manifesto for a snap election? https://www.malaymail.com/news/what-you-think/2020/03/06/winning-is-not-everything-beware-the-poisoned-chalice-and-the-pyrrhic-victo/1844052

stockraider

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Posted by stockraider > 2020-03-08 13:28 | Report Abuse

NOW 2 MONTHS FROM OPENING OF PARLIAMENT, WHATEVER SUPPORT , PLEDGE AND PROMISES HAVE LITTLE IMPACT, UNTIL THE DAY OF VOTING MAH....!!

stockraider

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Posted by stockraider > 2020-03-08 13:31 | Report Abuse

THE KEY IS TO DO A DEAL WITH MUHIDDIN AND GET HIM TO COMEBACK TO PH & MAINTAINING HIM AS PM IS THE BETTER OUTCOME & STRATEGY LOH...!!

SNAP ELECTION IS A STUPID AND LAST RESORT FOR PH LOH....!!

stockraider

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Posted by stockraider > 2020-03-08 13:42 | Report Abuse

Malay unity govt can be achieved by bersatu running back to PH and forming a govt comprising of;

1. Muhiddin- PM
2. Anwar- DPM
3. Mahathir- Senior Minister PM dept
4. Rafizi/zeti- Finance Minister
5. Mat sabu- Internal Minister
6. Nurul Anwar- Education Minister

Dap should not accept any cabinet post but should be a back benchers govt pro party in charge of ombudsmen appointment and parliament reformed so that can keep all malay unity govt in check for the benefit of all malaysian loh....!!

A president council comprising all the supporting parties like bersatu, pkr, amanah, dap and warisan should be appointed to oversee and balance the power of PM so that we will never fall back to dictator regime loh...!! This president council should be headed by shafie abdal of warisan loh....!! The President council will oversee the appointment of the quality of cabinet minister loh...!!

This all malay cabinet team plus Daps as umpire should serve well for malaysia until next general election loh...!!

With Muhiddin run back & anwar as DPM that will reinforce PH & bring back confidence loh...!!

They should be a racial & religous harmony law and anti hopping law loh...!!

Sosma will be abolished loh....!!

MA63 will be honored but the monetary payout to sabah & Sarawak will be incremental increase over 8 years until it achieve target loh...!!

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