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stockfreak

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Posted by stockfreak > 2021-06-23 18:14 | Report Abuse

US and China SHOULD cooperate?

UnicornP

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Posted by UnicornP > 2021-06-23 19:56 | Report Abuse

McDonald's

haridassa

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Posted by haridassa > 2021-06-23 21:27 | Report Abuse

China is the most bullying nation at the moment. The pot calling the kettle black. Racist goon.

rogers123

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Posted by rogers123 > 2021-06-24 07:34 | Report Abuse

Hey, Haridassa: U stayed in China before? I have stayed in China for many years. I found no racist goon. I found is a good place to stay if compared in America. China is very safe place to stay.

rogers123

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Posted by rogers123 > 2021-06-24 07:41 | Report Abuse

China is like a family with strict parents, everything need to follow the rules and respect the leader, a very discipline country. Is a Confucius method of managing the country, not like Europe and USA, demonstrate when government asked them to wear a mask, no respect to the government. What kind of country is that?

rogers123

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Posted by rogers123 > 2021-06-24 07:43 | Report Abuse

If your kids always disobey u and wan more freedom, will u just let ur kids to do so? Human right?

rogers123

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Posted by rogers123 > 2021-06-24 07:50 | Report Abuse

I will feel safe when walking on the street in China. No worry about pickpocket and also robbed by someone. I have a bad experience in France, my money was stolen by pickpocket. If someone come to approach u, u better keep away. More worse in Brazil, not dare to walk along on the street a night. Nowadays my cousins in USA always bring something to protect themselves when going out.

Posted by waltzingcrab > 2021-06-24 08:19 | Report Abuse

shld move there then show your love to the great leader...crap

Starship2

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Posted by Starship2 > 2021-06-24 08:33 | Report Abuse

It is not true that PRC is not a waring country. It invaded Tibet, Xinjiang after it came to power in around 1945..Now it has set its eyes on other country and have created border issues with Bhutan, Nepal, India , Japan , Vietnam, Malaysia, Philippines. There were news that it was even eyeing Vlaldivostok (spell) in Russia..claiming it was its territory..Much of today's problems could be linked ..covid, tensions in the SCS etc..that has forced country to spend more on arms ..that use it to deal with the pandemic..It now feels that it an ow take on the world with the progress it has achieved

Starship2

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Posted by Starship2 > 2021-06-24 08:35 | Report Abuse

..other countries..

acbiz88

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Posted by acbiz88 > 2021-06-24 10:36 | Report Abuse

Let it be clear Chinese is not equal CCP, like Malay not equal UMNO. CCP can take their notorious evil act to the grave, leave the Chinese alone.

stockraider

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Posted by stockraider > 2021-06-24 10:39 | Report Abuse

These areas is owned by China....during the Qing Dynasty mah....Modern China had not invaded anybody loh!

Posted by Starship2 > Jun 24, 2021 8:33 AM | Report Abuse

It is not true that PRC is not a waring country. It invaded Tibet, Xinjiang after it came to power in around 1945..Now it has set its eyes on other country and have created border issues with Bhutan, Nepal, India , Japan , Vietnam, Malaysia, Philippines. There were news that it was even eyeing Vlaldivostok (spell) in Russia..claiming it was its territory..Much of today's problems could be linked ..covid, tensions in the SCS etc..that has forced country to spend more on arms ..that use it to deal with the pandemic..It now feels that it an ow take on the world with the progress it has achieved

stockraider

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Posted by stockraider > 2021-06-24 10:42 | Report Abuse

CCP is a trust worthy safe Govt, that their chinese people are very comfortable with loh!

Posted by acbiz88 > Jun 24, 2021 10:36 AM | Report Abuse

Let it be clear Chinese is not equal CCP, like Malay not equal UMNO. CCP can take their notorious evil act to the grave, leave the Chinese alone.

Sslee

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Posted by Sslee > 2021-06-24 11:06 | Report Abuse

https://youtu.be/zdHkY3XYHKA
3000 year of China territories history in a Minute

qqq3333

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Posted by qqq3333 > 2021-06-24 11:13 | Report Abuse

if an Egyptian can see what is good what is bad, why not Malaysian?


https://klse.i3investor.com/servlets/forum/600544565.jsp

Sslee

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Posted by Sslee > 2021-06-24 11:13 | Report Abuse

Posted by winterwolf > Jun 14, 2021 12:40 PM | Report Abuse

Not going to argue with you as most facts are available on internet nowadays.
Twisted minds tend to come up with twisted logic, ignoring all factual events free willingly.

Historically the only time a power in China invaded other territories were in the Yuan Dynanty, The Moguls. The ancestor of the present Mongolian ( not the Han ). All these places you mentioned, Xinjiang, Taiwan, Tibet were all peripheral territories that flip in and out as territories of China through historical time. It was mostly uninhabitable landmass that lacks basic requirement like water supply and fertile soil for cultivation. Life is harsh and the few residents still need to put up with hordes of invaders that kill and rob. It was the Qing Dynasty (AD 1644 – 1912) military that accorded the protection required and these were officially sanctioned as the Dynasty territory. Xinjiang were already part of China in the Han Dynasty (206 BC – AD 220), just for your information, outposts that were built still there till today.

Japan attacked and occupied Manchuria in 1931, waged a full fledge war with China from 1937, 4 years before USA joined the fray in 1941.

"In 1935 the Chinese government put out a map titled "Map of Chinese Islands in the South China Sea" this map had eleven dashes on it. In 1949 the Chinese government dropped their claim of the Gulf of Tonkin and the now infamous nine-dash line was created. "

After WW2 in 1945, this claim was recognized by the western powers, especially UK and USA, and all other contesting countries now, unfortunately, were just various colonialist territories that do not have any interest in it at the time.

Atlas printed and used in schools in Malaysia during the 1970s even has clear print out who owns these islands in the South China Sea.

After WW2, 1945, Japan was also forced to return Taiwan which they colonized since 1895, to the Nationalist China at the time. In another word, it tells you who own the Taiwan Island. Thereafter, the Nationalist Government of China lost in internal power struggle to the Communist Regime and fled to the Taiwan Island in 1949. It was the anti communism sentiment of the time that the nine dash line and Taiwan becomes a dispute when the western government refuses till today to recognize the claim that they once agreed upon.

From 1949 till 1972, USA sanctioned China by imposing embargoes on everything China.

As far as Vietnam is concern, the relationship with China is a complex one. You can google it yourself. If China wanted to occupy it, the Communist China would have conquered it in the 1979-1990 conflict.

The above are all verifiable facts. So, who is twisting facts for own convenience ?

qqq3333

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Posted by qqq3333 > 2021-06-24 11:34 | Report Abuse

Critics mostly zero in on love Chinese people hate CCP..... The products of decades of brain washing by the hypocrites....

qqq3333

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Posted by qqq3333 > 2021-06-24 11:38 | Report Abuse

So how does people in the developing world see China?

As evil or as hope?

qqq3333

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Posted by qqq3333 > 2021-06-24 11:40 | Report Abuse

Andrew Sheng, one of my favorite writers recently wrote an article promoting world security instead of US national security

qqq3333

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Posted by qqq3333 > 2021-06-24 11:43 | Report Abuse

Under US security banner, the world is at risk

If US also follow China in focusing on world security... Wouldn't it be better?

qqq3333

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Posted by qqq3333 > 2021-06-24 11:58 | Report Abuse

Can we expect US led media to focus on world security instead of US national security? Andrew Sheng wrote a good article on this topic.

stockfreak

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Posted by stockfreak > 2021-06-24 12:16 | Report Abuse

Combat tactics in a non-democratic country can make a country very strong in a very short period of time. The quick surge will draw in envy and suspicion.

The display of weapons during national day in 2019:

Chinese from China: Our leaders are so powerful. Wow.

CCP: I want to show our people we are capable of defending the nation from any sort of foreign attacks.

USA/Europe/G7: Another Hitler/Saddam Hussein in the making. The parade looked familiar. Alert! Alert!

qqq3333

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Posted by qqq3333 > 2021-06-24 13:33 | Report Abuse

Freak... Hitler Saddam or not how to draw conclusions? By studying history by getting to know China and CCP and their priorities.

qqq3333

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Posted by qqq3333 > 2021-06-24 13:35 | Report Abuse

If China cannot defend itself it will be call irresponsible.

914601117

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Posted by 914601117 > 2021-06-24 15:11 | Report Abuse

China is being hated because they were too kind when powerful. As a lesson, China should slap many races around the world to make them kowtow. Example, many British & US former colonies are now respect & scare of them. So, China must produce at least same nuke per capital same with western countries estimated China must make 40,000 nukes and use them for freedom whenever possible

Posted by trading2019 > 2021-06-24 16:07 | Report Abuse

US is a war-monger nation.

Posted by trading2019 > 2021-06-24 16:09 | Report Abuse

Western media = CCP.
Wumao = CPC

qqq3333

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Posted by qqq3333 > 2021-06-24 16:28 | Report Abuse

ever wondered what is life like as CCP member in China now?

qqq3333

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Posted by qqq3333 > 2021-06-24 16:31 | Report Abuse

it will be a full life.... with lots of meetings, lots of training, lots of responsibility, lots of patriotic education, and expected to serve the people, to work harder than others

qqq3333

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Posted by qqq3333 > 2021-06-24 16:33 | Report Abuse

a lot of top students want to be CCP members

qqq3333

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Posted by qqq3333 > 2021-06-24 16:36 | Report Abuse

a lot of people in China want to join CCP but not selected

qqq3333

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Posted by qqq3333 > 2021-06-24 16:55 | Report Abuse

Being a member of CCP is different from being a member of a political party in democracies..... Much harder to get in to be a CCP member

acbiz88

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Posted by acbiz88 > 2021-06-24 21:13 | Report Abuse

CCP is corrupt as UMNO, they could not represent any race as they are evil and all their deed are evil.

qqq3333

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Posted by qqq3333 > 2021-06-25 08:57 | Report Abuse

Acb.... That is trained opinion, it's ideology, but not evidence based

qqq3333

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Posted by qqq3333 > 2021-06-25 09:00 | Report Abuse

Corruption in China by 2010 is getting from bad to worse.... Now 10.years later, Xi has put corruption under control following the Singapore model to governance. People are very happy.

qqq3333

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Posted by qqq3333 > 2021-06-25 09:01 | Report Abuse

Not that I blame Hujintao but the focus was different.... I guess the way to look at it is that different stage of economic development needs different approach. Hujintao time China was narrowly focused on economic development and wanting to imitate America in economic matters.

Sslee

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Posted by Sslee > 2021-06-25 09:09 | Report Abuse

When money flow (cashless transaction) can be traced and corrupt money cannot be spend then corrupt money is useless.

And with AI and CCTV you cannot even visit place you are not suppose to visit without your wife knowing it.

Crime only pay if you can get away with it. If you can't get away with crime everyone will behave no choice.

Sslee

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Posted by Sslee > 2021-06-25 09:20 | Report Abuse

Western world already legalise corruption with big business donating to politicians from both sides so that their interest is well proctected.

qqq3333

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Posted by qqq3333 > 2021-06-25 09:33 | Report Abuse

democracies with money politics and katat..... legal corruption.

qqq3333

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Posted by qqq3333 > 2021-06-25 09:38 | Report Abuse

the difference is corruption is illegal in China and very legal in katak places

stockraider

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Posted by stockraider > 2021-06-25 09:43 | Report Abuse

China now can stand tall on its own in terms of economic power & development loh!

Posted by qqq3333 > Jun 25, 2021 9:00 AM | Report Abuse

Corruption in China by 2010 is getting from bad to worse.... Now 10.years later, Xi has put corruption under control following the Singapore model to governance. People are very happy.

qqq3333

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Posted by qqq3333 > 2021-06-25 09:47 | Report Abuse

china can stand tall.... too bad so many Malaysians only know how to look West

qqq3333

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Posted by qqq3333 > 2021-06-25 09:50 | Report Abuse

look East u see so many world class cities in China even the tier 3 and tier 4 cities.

stockraider

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Posted by stockraider > 2021-06-25 09:52 | Report Abuse

If u want to have fun, enjoy and relax look to the west loh!

But if u want serious progress, development, efficiency, affordable cost of living and public order, look to china the best role model mah!

Posted by qqq3333 > Jun 25, 2021 9:47 AM | Report Abuse

china can stand tall.... too bad so many Malaysians only know how to look West

stockfreak

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Posted by stockfreak > 2021-06-25 09:52 | Report Abuse

China is trying to convince the whites that 国强必霸 is not true. If you are China, how do you convince that your muscle is not for fighting? How do you translate 国强必霸 into English, first of all?

qqq3333

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Posted by qqq3333 > 2021-06-25 10:06 | Report Abuse

I am watching the 80 episodes kings war Netflix about liu bang.... also can have fun enjoy and relax.

qqq3333

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Posted by qqq3333 > 2021-06-25 10:07 | Report Abuse

Chinese psyche is formed by its history

stockraider

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Posted by stockraider > 2021-06-25 10:09 | Report Abuse

Do not forget netflix is a USA products mah!


Posted by qqq3333 > Jun 25, 2021 10:06 AM | Report Abuse

I am watching the 80 episodes kings war Netflix about liu bang.... also can have fun enjoy and relax.

Starship2

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Posted by Starship2 > 2021-06-25 11:10 | Report Abuse

If some of us were commenting on ....20, 15, 10, 5 years ago, you would still have been argueing that there was no corruption in....i guess it is mainly due to false ethnic feelings, not by sincerely looking at the problem..on the issue, i wonder why are so many people rounded up and punished for corruption whenever there is a leadership change in ...?....The latest round of purges happened recently...does this mean there has been corruption all these while ..? A lot of unanswered questions...

qqq3333

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Posted by qqq3333 > 2021-06-25 12:01 | Report Abuse

Starship....they can solve problems.... U can solve problems or not?

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