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baramundi

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Posted by baramundi > 2023-08-04 09:26 | Report Abuse

There is no complete perfectly clean and honest political parties in this world. You need to understand why PH needed to work with BN to form the current unity government for the greater good of this country. Politicians have to be flexible in their principles in times when it calls for as long as the intention is for the benefit of rakyat and the country. One needs to look at the macro overview rather than finding imperfection on the micro issues. In short, cast your vote for the lesser of two evils. Don't forget your abstention may just give the 1 vote win to the bigger evil, let a lone to say the bigger catastrophic outcome if you rallying others to do the same. In summary, I do understand your point of view, like you, I'm just presenting the other perspective on this matter. Just a thought to ponder on.

qqq47660

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Posted by qqq47660 > 2023-08-04 09:40 | Report Abuse

voting is a right, an obligation or none of the above?

Sslee

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Posted by Sslee > 2023-08-04 09:44 | Report Abuse

Malaysia is in a very sorry state where our only choice of government is cast your vote for the lesser of two evils.

But it is still better then USA force to choose between Biden and Trump

DickyMe

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Posted by DickyMe > 2023-08-04 09:46 | Report Abuse

Well, you can vote for Muda or PSM as the third force. Do not ignore their potential.
Syed Saddiq is a growing man and learning the nuances of politics. For now these parties have no baggage.

Posted by Nighelanghelo > 2023-08-04 11:01 | Report Abuse

don't know who is this guy... first time hear the surname Sah...

DickyMe

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Posted by DickyMe > 2023-08-04 11:02 | Report Abuse

The matter is more important!

qqq47660

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Posted by qqq47660 > 2023-08-04 11:10 | Report Abuse

When the president has 90% support in any good poll, that is not repressive. That is case with China

qqq47660

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Posted by qqq47660 > 2023-08-04 11:11 | Report Abuse

When the president has only 20% that is repressive

qqq47660

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Posted by qqq47660 > 2023-08-04 11:14 | Report Abuse

Form over substance or substance over form?

And all what about repressive by majority over minority

qqq47660

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Posted by qqq47660 > 2023-08-04 11:16 | Report Abuse

In a pure democracy without any morals, it's the majority that decides how to eat the minority

qqq47660

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Posted by qqq47660 > 2023-08-04 11:18 | Report Abuse

In that sense, morals morality duty come before democracy for a good outcome

qqq47660

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Posted by qqq47660 > 2023-08-04 11:49 | Report Abuse

In a world of so many temptations and distractions, good morals is never easy.
For it to works there must be 100% buy ins, good principles good guide posts

qqq47660

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Posted by qqq47660 > 2023-08-04 11:53 | Report Abuse

Democracies almost by definition leads to weak governments, subject to corruption and external forces, instability, plenty of in fighting and therefore external manipulation

qqq47660

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Posted by qqq47660 > 2023-08-04 11:58 | Report Abuse

Kings and dynasties work . The responsibility for good governance rests on the rulers but that depends on the luck of birth....to avoid that revolutionary government has all abolished inheritance and rights by birth

kion11

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Posted by kion11 > 2023-08-04 12:19 | Report Abuse

Don't regret later.....if by not voting, certain things happened

i3lurker

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Posted by i3lurker > 2023-08-04 12:35 | Report Abuse

agree
so you should be a citizen of North Korea or Somalia or Afghanistan
coz your birthright to be citizen of Malaysia had been abolished per your request.
Please forward your MyKad and Passport for destruction with immediate effect.




Posted by qqq47660 > 33 minutes ago | Report Abuse

Kings and dynasties work . The responsibility for good governance rests on the rulers but that depends on the luck of birth....to avoid that revolutionary government has all abolished inheritance and rights by birth

qqq47660

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Posted by qqq47660 > 2023-08-04 13:21 | Report Abuse

Lurk...there is no theoretical basis to prefer one system over another for a country like Malaysia which have lots of minority groups. Every thing boils down to morals and morality, education, and the relationship between the ruled and the rulers.

qqq47660

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Posted by qqq47660 > 2023-08-04 13:22 | Report Abuse

Somalia afgan north Korea the country belongs to those who live there. Not us.

qqq47660

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Posted by qqq47660 > 2023-08-04 13:25 | Report Abuse

America wasted trillions lots of lives not helping them but destroying afganistan

qqq47660

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Posted by qqq47660 > 2023-08-04 13:27 | Report Abuse

Similarly America wasted lots of money lots of lives not helping Libya and Iraq but destroying them

Zhuge_Liang

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Posted by Zhuge_Liang > 2023-08-04 13:38 | Report Abuse

DSAI promised to clean up corruption.
Give him a chance like Indonesian President to clean up corruption in Indonesia for the last 10 years.
10 ministers in Indonesia were sacked and sentenced for corruption.
KLSE will perform like JSX, increase 846%.

Malaysian debt is about 1.5 trillion, money stolen according to one report is 4.5 trillion.
After less out the debt of 1.5 trillion, the leftover money is 3.0 trillion.
The population of Malaysia is about 33 million, each citizen will entitle 910 thousand each.
With this amount of money, I think KLSE will go up 846%.

Give DSAI a chance to rule for 10 years in Malaysia, let him collect back all stolen money from all parties concerned.
An unofficial report, one VIP has 1.3 trillion parked outside Malaysia. DSAI wants to take back this money from this VIP.
Please give a chance to DSAI and support the present unity government.

qqq47660

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Posted by qqq47660 > 2023-08-04 14:39 | Report Abuse

not the time to fight

time to get back to work

qqq47660

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Posted by qqq47660 > 2023-08-04 14:41 | Report Abuse

if people only do good when watched or because of strict laws, or voting , all u get are hypocrites, people who are above the laws.

IDQWE001

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Posted by IDQWE001 > 2023-08-04 15:23 | Report Abuse

just imagine if you have no chance to vote Najib out and throw him in jail.

Change_

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Posted by Change_ > 2023-08-04 15:31 | Report Abuse

TPM DSZH not charge under corruption? So how can trust PM-X with his anti-corruption 100%?

qqq47660

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Posted by qqq47660 > 2023-08-04 15:36 | Report Abuse

being moral morality not only when poor and powerless. But being moral and morality when rich and powerful, that is the secret to wise use of power. That cannot come from being watched, or voting Otherwise if people only do good when watched or because of strict laws, or voting , all u get are hypocrites, people who are above the laws. One thing I know is wise old men are wise and old because they satisfied, not longer worried about challenges, no longer worried adversities. They feel secured already and are brought up with good education, good morals, good lessons,

buruj57

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Posted by buruj57 > 2023-08-04 15:54 | Report Abuse

Politics is a game where Winner don't take all and loser don't lose all. Prioritized your agenda for better Malaysia.

DickyMe

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Posted by DickyMe > 2023-08-04 15:58 | Report Abuse

Neither democracy nor communism is a good government model.
Equally repressive are religioun based government as they are dictatorial.

qqq47660

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Posted by qqq47660 > 2023-08-04 16:41 | Report Abuse

lets not say communists, lets just say revolutionaries.

In the case of China, the revolutionary spirit is well respected.

qqq47660

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Posted by qqq47660 > 2023-08-04 16:43 | Report Abuse

countries that have had their revolutions have a certain spirit is that is respectable.

speakup

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Posted by speakup > 2023-08-04 16:45 | Report Abuse

u boycott, PN win then what? then u regret and cry also no use

qqq47660

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Posted by qqq47660 > 2023-08-04 16:53 | Report Abuse

its tik tok generation...............PH got tik tok or not?

DickyMe

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Posted by DickyMe > 2023-08-04 16:54 | Report Abuse

Talk kok generation!

qqq47660

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Posted by qqq47660 > 2023-08-04 17:02 | Report Abuse

unity will win penang selanngor...........rest pn.

The_JQuestion

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Posted by The_JQuestion > 2023-08-04 18:03 | Report Abuse

HAHA !! joker how unity can lose NS too... msut be dreaming too much , waiting abah give u freebies

The_JQuestion

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Posted by The_JQuestion > 2023-08-04 18:04 | Report Abuse

no rm50 give outs how to win ... lau also hide in penang malay state , imagine he lost !! possible ,, sanusi lost?? also possible
HOT fight is ganu and kedah, both PN at THREAT not Unity the rest no fight
must not be reading newspaper these days

qqq47660

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Posted by qqq47660 > 2023-08-04 18:17 | Report Abuse

somalia..........u will be surprised to learn Somalia is doing very well now. Rwanda too. Ethiopia too. And Afghanistan today is doing very well .except for women issues I guess.

all these countries doing well with help from China.

chinaman

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Posted by chinaman > 2023-08-04 18:35 | Report Abuse

already nation with millions of bangla, rohingya, pakistan, pinoy, indon, at the end, taliban still wins.....

beinvested

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Posted by beinvested > 2023-08-04 18:40 | Report Abuse

Since that government was not able to provide those basic needs, they kicked out that government/old system.
In 1776, the Declaration of Independence...they severed the ties with the British...Thomas Jefferson.

He proposed life, liberty and happiness...what books he read.

Income

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Posted by Income > 2023-08-04 18:54 | Report Abuse

If the largest rice choose PAS, what can Malaysian do to help? Nothing lah. The largest rice turn to strict fundamental religion principles because Ummo eats too much mo ney, can not be trusted. Largest rice believes strict fundamental religion principles can cure our nation ill health. How can we help to change the largest rice beliefs in Pas???

Above is the main reason why the largest rice supports Pas. Do you understand???


Kids Siang does not know why largest rice chooses Pas? Or Kids Siang doesn’t want to tell the largest rice that Pas is also ko rup, because Pas will say Kid Siang is anti Green Wave government. So Kid Siang can only beating around the bushes… talking unimportant examples which the largest rice can not relate to. How???

qqq47660

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Posted by qqq47660 > 2023-08-04 19:12 | Report Abuse

Modi India is a democracy it's also oppression of minority Muslims by majority Hindus......it's a failure of Gandhi india

qqq47660

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Posted by qqq47660 > 2023-08-04 19:17 | Report Abuse

Don't think too much...let the malays do the thinking the Chinese just do the eating

qqq47660

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Posted by qqq47660 > 2023-08-04 19:20 | Report Abuse

I just read...the median income of KL Selangor is 10000 rgt a month. 10000 a month can survive la...below that then susah

qqq47660

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Posted by qqq47660 > 2023-08-04 20:04 | Report Abuse

If people want to vote green wave, it's tribal instincts.....I think it's not possible to fight tribal instinct with logical arguments... America tries but also fails

Posted by PassionateInvestor > 2023-08-04 21:45 | Report Abuse

The author needs to be able to differentiate between state and federal issues. Most if not all his grouses are related to federal matters. As for state, we'll need to look at the development and progress of the state and infrastructure. How is the corruption level and do we/our children need to move to other states to look for work and you'll have your answer to which party to vote for.

qqq47660

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Posted by qqq47660 > 2023-08-04 22:11 | Report Abuse

Yes the author is just being shallow.....

It's the economy s.tupid.....

yonsam

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Posted by yonsam > 2023-08-04 23:06 | Report Abuse

Ma, my team lost, I don't want to watch anymore. Sounds like a crybaby who thinks that 1 vote every few years will change things. People like this dream of a good life by voting, but don't actively contribute other times. If more people give up standing for justice when it is difficult, or too scared to speak against evil, will society get better? To not vote is not a stand to make to be heard. If everyone like you doesn't vote but at closing time, 1 vote was cast, it is still a win!! If you want to just sit down and do nothing to protest and be heard, go do a hunger strike. If you don't participate in democracy, what else is left? Wake up! Political slogans are not promises. When there is no majority, then negotiation is the alternative. Duh, simple like that also you don't know. For a sure win, vote for a dictator; a dictator sure wins, and everyone else loses. Sounds like you are not a real PH supporter, more like a mole to discourage PH supporters.

DickyMe

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Posted by DickyMe > 2023-08-04 23:19 | Report Abuse

As if we have had superb governments since independence.
Pirate and samseng kampung themed governance.

i3lurker

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Posted by i3lurker > 2023-08-05 00:08 | Report Abuse

Vote for me as PM and I promise to rob you less.

qqq47660

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Posted by qqq47660 > 2023-08-05 00:23 | Report Abuse

if matured democracies cannot work for voters, what make u think developing country democracies can work for voters?

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