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Posted by Celine Loo > 2016-11-22 08:51 | Report Abuse

PETALING JAYA: After two failed merger attempts, Malaysia Building Society Bhd (MBSB) is rumoured to be in merger and acquisition talks again, this time with Asian Finance Bank Bhd (AFB), sources say.

AFB is one of the three stand-alone Middle Eastern-based Islamic banks operating in Malaysia.

“There is interest and parties from both sides are said to be waiting for the central bank’s green light to begin negotiations officially,” said a banking source.

“However, the challenge would be meeting the demands of AFB’s diverse shareholders,” noted a banker.

It is known in banking circles that some of AFB’s shareholders are looking to exit and the bank was reportedly in talks for their stakes to be acquired by Malaysian Industrial Development Finance Bhd earlier this year. But the corporate exercise did not materialise, according to banking sources.

AFB is backed by a consortium of shareholders, namely, Qatar Islamic Bank (QIB) with the largest stake at 66.67%, followed by Saudi Arabia’s RUSD Investment Bank (16.67%), Yemen’s Tadhamon International Islamic Bank (10%) and Financial Assets Bahrain WLL (6.67%).

Notably, the bank has not appointed a chief executive officer since the retirement of its previous head honcho Datuk Mohamed Azahari Mohamed Kamil in January this year based on its website – signalling a “transitory period” that could lead to the likelihood of changes in shareholding at the bank.

The bank is currently managed by an Interim Management Committee, which is chaired by treasurer Azidy Daud.

With a capital base of RM532.5mil and assets totalling RM2.62bil, it is the smallest Middle Eastern bank in the country after Kuwait Finance House (M) Bhd and Saudi Arabia’s Al Rajhi Banking & Investment Corp (M) Bhd. AFB has two branches, one in Kuala Lumpur and the other in Johor Baru.

It was mostly loss-making since 2007 before turning around in financial year 2013 after switching its business model to the more stable corporate funding as opposed to small- and medium-sized enterprises previously. The bank made a net profit of RM1.54mil for the second quarter ended June 30, 2016.

The future of Middle Eastern banks in the country has come into focus in recent years because of their paltry returns as fierce competition erodes margins.

In 2014, StarBiz had reported that Qatar-based QIB was looking to divest its strategic stake in AFB. QIB was first linked to the talk that it was seeking to exit a few years ago when Bank Negara mooted the development of a mega-Islamic bank. AFB was said to be a likely candidate for the licence, but that idea did not take off.

MBSB, meanwhile, has been trying to transform into an Islamic bank in one way or another to increase its competitiveness.

In February this year, the non-bank lender aborted its proposed merger with Bank Muamalat Malaysia Bhd, reportedly due to disagreements over valuation and control.

Prior to that, MBSB was part of a failed three-way merger with CIMB Group Holdings Bhd and RHB Capital Bhd that was called off in January last year amid falling oil prices.

Without a merger partner, the company can still grow on its own, albeit at a slower pace.

MBSB’s single-largest shareholder is the Employees Provident Fund (EPF) with a 65.4% stake.

EPF chief executive officer Datuk Shahril Ridza Ridzuan recently said that the non-bank financial provider was working with Bank Negara to revamp to bring it up to bank standards and was looking at a solution towards entering the mainstream market.

The fund injected RM1.3bil into the company to subscribe to its portion of the company’s rights issue in March to raise up to RM2bil to strengthen its core capital and increase its leverage ratio to at least 12.5%, in compliance with regulatory requirements hoping to secure a banking licence in the next two or three years.

The other substantial shareholder in the company is Tan Sri Chua Ma Yu, whose stake is now 8.97% from 6.06% through subscription of the rights issue.

The seasoned investor emerged as a substantial shareholder in MBSB in March this year.

MBSB, which has assets totalling RM42.57bil, has a strategic focus to increase its corporate loans/financing segment.

In the second quarter ended June 30, it posted a lower net profit of RM63mil, down 26.3% from a year ago due to a higher allowance for impairment losses on loans, advances and financing.

Corporate loans accounted for 16.9% of total loans as at that period, while personal financing was at 66.2% of its loan book and mortgage financing at 15.7%.

Its shares are down 32.91% year-to-date. The stock ended yesterday at 91.5 sen, up 15 sen with 3.58 million shares being done. At this level, it is trading at a price-to-book value of 0.53 times.

cyeec2000

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Posted by cyeec2000 > 2016-11-22 09:02 | Report Abuse

M@A again...

fattycat

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Posted by fattycat > 2016-11-22 09:03 | Report Abuse

wow~~

kayne285

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Posted by kayne285 > 2016-11-22 09:04 | Report Abuse

whats happening again?

Posted by Celine Loo > 2016-11-22 09:07 | Report Abuse

Mbsb is up 0.925 cents

Rf888

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Posted by Rf888 > 2016-11-22 10:05 | Report Abuse

Qr maybe will drop

funkyway

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Posted by funkyway > 2016-11-22 13:57 | Report Abuse

Mbsb can buy now?

Jay

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Posted by Jay > 2016-11-22 15:42 | Report Abuse

M&A rumour that doesn't make sense at all. why would MBSB (RM42b asset) want to merge with AFB (RM2.6b asset)? with such small target, MBSB will be outright acquiring it. all the merger talks so far is EPF trying to pare down their stake, buying out such small lender is just doing the other company's shareholders a favor, not helping MBSB or EPF

TheContrarian

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Posted by TheContrarian > 2016-11-22 16:04 | Report Abuse

MBSB is interested in the Islamic Banking licence. Government doesn't want to issue the licence directly to MBSB.

Jay

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Posted by Jay > 2016-11-23 09:18 | Report Abuse

the reason BNM refuse to give MBSB a banking license is because they haven't finished cleaning up their books. if they merge with AFB, majority of assets still from MBSB. BNM would be naive not to see through this and issue them a license

sell

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Posted by sell > 2016-11-23 11:44 | Report Abuse

Usually QR out early(before 20th). Why still not out? Very bad? 70 sen coming.

beso

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Posted by beso > 2016-11-23 14:53 | Report Abuse

poor qr to be released 2moro

TheContrarian

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Posted by TheContrarian > 2016-11-23 18:51 | Report Abuse

If QR poor I will sell off all my MBSB shares which I bought at 69 sen.

sell

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Posted by sell > 2016-11-23 21:38 | Report Abuse

QR still not out? Loss QR? Sure drop tomorrow.

OrangKuat

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Posted by OrangKuat > 2016-11-23 21:42 | Report Abuse

QR up up up ...
Buy buy buy

JeanL

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Posted by JeanL > 2016-11-23 21:51 | Report Abuse

MBSB earlier on already announce the QR will be out tomorrow.

kk

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Posted by kk > 2016-11-24 09:14 | Report Abuse

http://www.enanyang.my/news/20161122/传马建屋洽购亚洲金融银行

sell

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Posted by sell > 2016-11-24 10:51 | Report Abuse

Quiet before QR. After QR sure drop.

firehawk

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Posted by firehawk > 2016-11-24 10:54 | Report Abuse

Hope so ....

chamlo

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Posted by chamlo > 2016-11-24 13:05 | Report Abuse

100% cheating. Only Maybank release.

beso poor qr to be released 2moro
23/11/2016 14:53

beso

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Posted by beso > 2016-11-24 13:37 | Report Abuse

eps 1.18c nia sure drop de

beso

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Posted by beso > 2016-11-24 13:38 | Report Abuse

when i said poor qr to be released on 24/11/2016 sure it will be released on time one

beso

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Posted by beso > 2016-11-24 13:42 | Report Abuse

ttm 2016 eps 5.11 pe 15 times only 76.65c sure drop de

Rosma mk

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Posted by Rosma mk > 2016-11-24 14:00 | Report Abuse

Dont think it drop until 70c...support level 90c.. it went down to 70c due to price adjustment for right issue

sell

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Posted by sell > 2016-11-24 14:29 | Report Abuse

Very bad QR. Sure drop.

Rf888

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Posted by Rf888 > 2016-11-24 14:33 | Report Abuse

Very bad Qr,open edi,drop 9%

sell

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Posted by sell > 2016-11-24 14:34 | Report Abuse

EPS 1.18 if PE 10 48 sen PE 15 72 sen? 80 sen still expensive.

Rf888

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Posted by Rf888 > 2016-11-24 14:36 | Report Abuse

Waiting drop until 0.75

FCM100

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Posted by FCM100 > 2016-11-24 15:04 | Report Abuse

Accumulate for 4Q 16 :)

beso

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Posted by beso > 2016-11-24 15:23 | Report Abuse

last chance to sell at 0.90
c u at 0.75

kk

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Posted by kk > 2016-11-24 15:56 | Report Abuse

Relax.
Revenue is increase,PBT also increase. (good sign)
EPS reduce due to right issue and impairment losses 200m

MBSB will good if future impairment losses is completed.

angkokann

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Posted by angkokann > 2016-11-24 16:01 | Report Abuse

Anyone knows when the impairment will be completed.

John Lu

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Posted by John Lu > 2016-11-24 16:01 | Report Abuse

2017

kk

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Posted by kk > 2016-11-24 16:02 | Report Abuse

明年减值拨备7.4亿

马屋业预计减值拨备规模约为19亿令吉,截至2016财政年上半年已筹措8亿6300万令吉或43%,剩余的57%中,3亿7000万令吉会在2016财政年下半年拨出。该公司计划2017财政年再拨备7亿4000万令吉。

大马投行估计,该公司净减值贷款率将从2016财政年首季的3.1%提高到次季的3.3%。

“一旦减值计划在2017财政年结束,预期在拨备减少之下,2018财政年净利可能因而提高16.3%。”

大马投行指出,推行减值计划并非坏事,这主要是该公司对零售贷款组合转趋保守的证明,也可以加强贷款损失涵盖率。

FCM100

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Posted by FCM100 > 2016-11-24 16:23 | Report Abuse

KK is right, all business aspects are showing improvement.
With 2017 impairment is approximately 500Mil lesser than 2016, it's earning will pick up soon.

Jay

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Posted by Jay > 2016-11-24 16:24 | Report Abuse

Impairment program will end at Dec-17, which is immediately followed by implementation of IFRS 9.
Accounting firms who are running the IFRS 9 sensitivity for the banks are now saying that banks and financial lenders' provisions/impairments cost is expected to increase by 30-300% from current level. so good luck for those hoping for a swift rebound in MBSB profit after 2017.

btw, if we look at profit excluding impairment (since people always blame impairment), it is around RM280m this quarter, which improved qoq and yoy.
but if you look at a longer trend, average profit ex impairment for 2013 was RM300m, the highest quarter was actually in 4Q13 which was around RM340m.
which means after 2 massive rights issue in the last 3 years (2014 & 2016), profitability actually still declined. it's classic value destrucion by the current management!
the problem runs deeper than impairment. don't be surprised when IFRS 9 become effective in 2018, management come asking for rights issue again

G-boy

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Posted by G-boy > 2016-11-24 16:28 | Report Abuse

if result like this u think is not good.
then MBSB share price drop below 0.9?

darrenliew

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Posted by darrenliew > 2016-11-24 17:40 | Report Abuse

JAY. IT SEEMS U ARE FROM AN ACCOUNTING OR BUSINESS FINANCE BACKGROUND.
THE IFRS 9 SENSITIVITY TESTS CITED TO NEGATIVELY IMPACT BANKS AND FINANCIAL LENDERS BY INCREASING THEIR PROVISIONS/IMPAIRMENTS BY 30% TO 300%. IS HUGE AND SCARY. HENCE PLSE ASSIST TO CLARIFY HOW THE IMPENDING IFRS 9 WORKS (NO NEED TO BE DETAILED. JUST ITS MAIN PROVISIONS)

darrenliew

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Posted by darrenliew > 2016-11-24 17:52 | Report Abuse

JAY. YOUR POINTS ON THE ACTUAL DECLINING PROFITABILITY OF MBSB (EXCLUDING ITS IMPAIRMENT FACTOR) OF ITS PAST FEW YEARS ARE REVEALING.

MEANS WE NOW HAVE TO CONSIDER THE SITUATION WHEREBY MBSB'S PROSPECTS MAY NOT BE THAT PROMISING BASED ON THE COMBINED
NEGATIVE FACTORS OF DECLINING CORE EARNINGS PLUS HIGHER PROVISIONS/IMPAIRMENT OVER AND ABOVE ITS CURRENT IMPAIRMENT OF RM1.4B DUE TO THE ACCOUNTING REQUIREMENTS UNDER IFRS9

PlsGiveBonus

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Posted by PlsGiveBonus > 2016-11-24 18:10 | Report Abuse

Result is good
Just Preceeding year result is too good
However the share price of the last year is above 1.50

PlsGiveBonus

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Posted by PlsGiveBonus > 2016-11-24 18:13 | Report Abuse

Revenue is improving compare to last Q and last Y
It is s good result
And it is offset by the poorer profit.

darrenliew

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Posted by darrenliew > 2016-11-24 18:18 | Report Abuse

MBSB'S CURRENT 2 YEAR IMPAIRMENT PROGRAMME FOR RM1.4B IS TO IMPLEMENTED UP TO 2017.

SINCE THE IFRS9 IS TO IMPLEMENTED FROM 2018 THIS COULD POSSIBLY MEAN ITS IMPAIRMENT AMOUNT WOULD
INCREASED AND EXTENDED AT LEAST INTO 2018

Jay

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Posted by Jay > 2016-11-24 18:27 | Report Abuse

what is good about this quarter is only when you compared to worse quarters.

I followed MBSB on and off over the years so I'll just break it down for the sake of those who are new to this company

1. gross impaired loans ratio still close to record high levels at 7.7% (worse than RCE or AeonCredit, miles behind Malaysia banks average of 1.6%)
2. profitability excluding impairment still worse off compared to 2013 and 2014 quarters even after 2 rights issue
3. management mentioned in press release that they will shift more towards corporate away from retail (government servant) from current 19:81 ratio to target 30:70. corporates have lower bad loans but carry much lower interest margin, so profitability for every $ loan will further shrink
4. ROE at 4% is miles behind any banks or peers (bank average 10%, RCE 15%, Aeon 25%)
5. impairment program will only end at Dec-2017, at least 12 months away
6. impending implementation of IFRS 9, provision to spike again

personally I think the current management simply doesn't know how to manage the biz. 3 rights issue, 2011 RM500m, 2014 RM1.4b, 2016 RM1.7b total RM3.6b in 5 years. So their current RM5.5b market cap, 65% are from rights issue. This haven't include the initial IPO and all the dividend reinvestment plans. They essentially build the company by taking money from shareholders rather than generating returns.

besides for those who care about management quality should go talk to credit officers or credit collection agencies. some of them even if MBSB is their customer (MBSB hire them for certain processes) but they can still tell you all about MBSB horror stories. basically it has a very bad reputation in the industry.

Jay

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Posted by Jay > 2016-11-24 19:00 | Report Abuse

For IFRS 9, details you can google it up, but the crux of it is the change of method in recognising provision/impairment.
now IAS 39 is based on incurred loss method, IFRS 9 is expected loss model.

The effects of the new standards basically are
1. Earlier recognition of impairment based on expected loss
2. For those impaired, provision based on lifetime instead of 12 months' expected credit losses

so impaired loans are expected to go up, and for every $ impaired loans, companies need to make more provision under the new standards.

I'm no longer in the industry but I still have friends working in Big 4 who are advising the banks now to prep for IFRS 9. according to them, the new standards are expected to amplify the difference between good and bad lenders. Banks like Public, Hong Leong which has cleaner books are likely to be least affected while unsecured lenders like Aeon, RCE, MBSB will be hit the hardest because most of their loans are personal loans without collateral and are considered most vulnerable.

Jay

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Posted by Jay > 2016-11-24 19:09 | Report Abuse

for your reference
http://www.thestar.com.my/business/business-news/2016/04/23/banks-prepare-for-new-standard/

btw, 30-300% is just my friend's estimate for those least risky to those most risky. and it is also relative to the companies' current provisioning level
so doesn't mean MBSB provision will increase further 300% from current level. but in general, all financial lending companies are expected to be hit

beso

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Posted by beso > 2016-11-24 20:01 | Report Abuse

so only one word "drop"

Posted by Mad Men 狂人 > 2016-11-24 22:24 | Report Abuse

no idea about this counter. news are + n -.
is like going flowing at this price. :(

red_85

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Posted by red_85 > 2016-11-25 01:48 | Report Abuse

This is called consolidation before shoot up above the resistance

Posted by Teacoffce > 2016-11-25 09:36 | Report Abuse

Hi TheContrarian, I am new here. Can U please share tan SRI Chua average Cost plesse .. Thanks

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