but.... but..... if you are trading with OPM and your margin is almost full, then very bad ..... you better seriously think about it whether to cut loss or reduce your holding
by now you should see something valuable, why some people make money every year, some people don't. you need a strong heart and discipline to make money and you will always make more than you want .
Very soon the market will prove you talking nonsense. This sort of rubbish comments only the losers are enjoy sharing. I am wondering why early in the morning you are looking for someone to curse you Do you think this behaviors can bring you good lucks. Papa tell you , stop doing foolish thing, this is not correct. People lose money but you did not gain It should be You cannot gain then let others gain
Everybody makes mistakes including you and me. What a big issue? Mistakes also a knowledge We learnt from mistake We should be thankful to futureeye, for his kindness to share with us and for his hard work. He is a good man. He can be very successful in his life if he continues to do good to others.
KYY: I help you because I know you will help others
Lee Kar Seng's sifu : I help you because you can help others
You can't win big by bad mouthing You can be very successful if you share with a good intention Never scare to make mistake. The losers laugh at you, the winner learnt from mistake. Moreover you did not collect any single cent from anybody. What wrong is that? In fact, you are doing a good thing, that will accumulate with time and later turned into an energy to drive you all the way to a more successful life.
Petronm has very limited free float. When all those who want to sell already sold That is the time, you see a strong rebound.
KYY : movement of a share is determined by supply and demand. When the number of buyers is bigger than the number of seller the price will go up or the other way round
Believe the fundamental of petronm Believe the market is not stupid though looks stutip. Believe a true investor will choose Petronm
I am wondering a simple question. The present market capitalization of petronm is around 2.8B and that of hengyuan is 3.6B If the proposed 14B expansion is sole for refinery, then why not spend 5B to buy the whole hengyuan. The job is so much easier and cost effective.
Why spend more where you can do it better with a very much cheaper price. Common sense tell us the 14B expansion must be better than spending less money to buy the entire hengyuan.
Current market capitalization is just 3B, the proposed 14B expansion should create at least 6 times growth. If not why spend so much. Just spend a few billions and buy all the hengyuan shares from the chinaman, their cost is around 1B. Pay them 2B or 3B, I believe they are happy to bring home this money to build a new refinery with their made in China technology as what David said cheap price but decent quality
Blog: HENGYUAN Part 8: Valuation, Q4 profit and Q12018 Spread (Davidtslim)
Jan 21, 2018 12:20 PM | Report Abuse
Pjseow: If u compare China Yunnan refinery setup cost and Petronas RAPID cost, their difference also big where China refinery system can be built at much lower cost and still running well. I think there are a lot of made-in-china products which they have decent quality but with much lower price as compared to many other countries. With technology breakthrough, it is possible to produce things that are cheaper and with decent quality.
Yesterday very free nothing to do, flipped through all the old article to refresh myself Just to avoid unknowingly spreading wrong information all the way.
Posted by Halite > Mar 4, 2018 08:46 AM | Report Abuse
I am wondering a simple question. The present market capitalization of petronm is around 2.8B and that of hengyuan is 3.6B If the proposed 14B expansion is sole for refinery, then why not spend 5B to buy the whole hengyuan. The job is so much easier and cost effective.
Ans : Good work. I agreed with your suggestion. It is a matter whether Hengyuan is willing to sell at 3.6B.
Why not willing to sell? You bought 1.90 and now people offer you 24 Do not forget, with your expertise, you can build a new one with a very much lower cost. Isn't it win win.
Hengyuan chinaman spend less than 2B and get 10 times growth. petronm spend 14B, no reason can not get 10 times. Apply david and future eye model of calculation. 14B x 10 = 140B Number of shares 270m Then the potential market price of petronm can be 52. But now selling at 10.50, expensive? No hope? Do not think it is absurd. I just follow our good friends David, future eye, stockraider and probability model of calculation to derive this figure.
Do not think the management does not see your worries. Can not see the problem David, future eye, stockraider and probability had seen. They love the company more than anyone of us . If there is problem, they should have worried more than anyone of us. If no good, why come out with such stupid proposal.
Simple, no money going into petronm management side pockets if outright buy HY. On the other hands, plenty of hanky panky with rm14 bil construction project!
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Posted by neutrofil > 2018-03-02 15:15 | Report Abuse
Babi lah petron..