Posted by tan5995 > 2015-01-21 22:37 | Report Abuse

Dear All, Don't highly expect this counter

Posted by cheeseburger > 2015-01-22 07:05 | Report Abuse

Gearing so high, oversea debt is a concern with weaken ringgit..

Posted by Saturn > 2015-01-22 10:31 | Report Abuse

What is wrong with this statement? Lack of understanding! But then again not for me to comment.


cheeseburger Gearing so high, oversea debt is a concern with weaken ringgit..
22/01/2015 07:05

Posted by tan5995 > 2015-01-22 12:21 | Report Abuse

节节败退， From 2.13 to 2.08 ，ha ha ha !

Posted by giorgio > 2015-01-22 14:38 | Report Abuse

hahaha

Posted by giorgio > 2015-01-22 14:38 | Report Abuse

tan laugh sound pain more than laugh

Posted by Saturn > 2015-01-22 16:55 | Report Abuse

I hv mentioned many times this stock is not for everyone especially those unfamiliar. To begin with I gave two tips, one was Fitters and the other was that it works reverse in E&O due to the facts that I shared earlier (I won't repeat again.) the stock is very technical and exact played by investors here. Example closing before the ex was 2.48 and opening on ex was exact at 2.25.
When a person sells right before ex, he has got no warrant while those who sold at 2.25 or there about would enjoy the free warrant absolutely free. Got it?

Posted by gick891214 > 2015-01-22 17:12 | Report Abuse

is it the warrant will be coming out tomorrow?

Posted by cheeseburger > 2015-01-22 23:50 | Report Abuse

Saturn, if you have good tips pls keep for yourself. No need to mention many times.

Posted by cheeseburger > 2015-01-23 00:12 | Report Abuse

Some people owned the stock therefore their opinion could be biased towards one side...
We dont talk about very long term but just open up the 6 month chart, let the data speak for itself..what you see? in last 6 months this stock traded from $3 to $2.08. so what is the message? yes, currently a downward trend...so what is the game plan you should adopt in this kind of stock? how is the latest news and economy that going to influence? what is the opportunity cost for holding? Think..use your a to think...
i also won't repeat again...btw i do not hold any EO at this time...but it doesn't mean i will not buy in future, if it further break into my desire price.

Posted by cheeseburger > 2015-01-23 00:12 | Report Abuse

Got it?

Posted by tan5995 > 2015-01-23 07:46 | Report Abuse

I agree cheeseburger, e&o is lousy counter !

Posted by Saturn > 2015-01-23 07:48 | Report Abuse

There you go ....blind burger talking again. Btw is the sesame seed on the burger actually the eyes? Nah it can't be because he always quote from the newspaper, the website or picking static numbers like rm3 to 2.08 from the price range

If he had understood the counterJust to give an example of playing reverse. Btw calculate for yourself...the price went up to rm3.18 mid July 2014. Most have sold partially at rm3.08. They only need to hold from May 2014 the price was at 2.2x to 2.30. A clean 70cents in 3mths period.

The price went down to 2.04 in mid of Dec 2014. Terry collected I believe at 2.06 3Million shares and a reversal ensued. The price then went up and touch 2.60 however most sold at 2.55 on January 2015...another hefty 50cents.

I m only giving a short example from mid May 2014 to mid Jan 2015 to make 70 + 50= rm1.20. So what is the holding cost the blind burger is talking about????

Posted by Saturn > 2015-01-23 07:54 | Report Abuse

Hope now ppl understand from the example of 9mths above covering rm1.20 profit playing reversal while text book geeks quoting from static numbers like cheeseburger can continue to do so,
I hv said many times E&O is not for everyone. I m merely highlighting and giving the correct perception. Nothing more BUT for the burger, looks like sesame seed for eyes is not enough

Posted by Saturn > 2015-01-23 09:13 | Report Abuse

If we go exactly 1 year ie Jan 2014 to Jan 2015 at a glance its 1.9x (Jan 2014) to 2.0x (Jan 2015) . However if you look in between, there was
1. 3 major fluctuation
2. Dividend
3. Bonus
4. Free Warrant

For simplicity base on selling when crossing the psychological RM3 and not absolute margin play, margin can win you 2-3 times more if play correctly with each receeding wave. Assuming you hold 10 lots (10k shrs)
1. From 1.9x (Jan 2014) to 3.08 (actually peak was 3.18 in Mid July 2014)
- Profit = RM1.10 (conservative) * 10 = RM11k
2. Dividend 2014 was 3cents , anoth RM300
3. Assuming conservative play ie buying a day before Ex-for Bonus and Warrant
The price was RM2.48 and Selling it at RM2.2X on ex date maybe losing 1 to 2cents
- Profit = Negative 200
4. Warrant assuming 40cents...10k = 2 free lots
- Profit = RM800

Total Profit = 11k + 300 - 200 + 800 = RM11.9k
Capital assuming conservative for the 10k lots (ie higher of the 1.9x = 1.98) = RM19.8k
% Profit over capital = 11.9/19.8 = 60%

Check the actual numbers for yourself and see if I m correct or wrong. For those who play with the 30% rule of selling and then buying back will profit even higher.

Posted by Saturn > 2015-01-23 09:32 |

Post removed.Why?

Posted by weee > 2015-01-23 09:36 | Report Abuse

Free warrant coming out yet?

Posted by Joel > 2015-01-23 09:49 | Report Abuse

http://www.thestar.com.my/Business/Business-News/2015/01/23/EO-launches-luxury-condo-project-in-Taiwan/?style=biz

Posted by saturnpukibusuk > 2015-01-23 09:54 | Report Abuse

How many times did Saturn made promotion and you end up losing money ? I have bad experience before with his daily promotion in Tropicana. So when I saw his promotion in E&O I made a bet that similar fate will occur and I was right.

Posted by tan5995 > 2015-01-23 10:30 | Report Abuse

I feel that Saturn behalf of e&o. Ha ha ha ！

Posted by Saturn > 2015-01-23 10:57 | Report Abuse

Hahahaha....

Posted by Saturn > 2015-01-23 10:58 | Report Abuse

I told you guys not to buy....were you not listening??

Posted by Saturn > 2015-01-23 11:25 | Report Abuse

I can tell you for certain next week they will announce the Free Warrant listing and quote grant. 2 to 3 days after that it will be actual listing price in market.
I hv given all the examples to play Bonus now you hv to think for yourself moving forward. To date I hv shared in length
1. How to watch the queue in trading and buy pattern to understand who is playing in market
2. Method to play the market especially E&O (remember the 30% of holding to trade)
3. E&O specific information
4. Specific example of what to expect and live example of Free Warrant and Bonus and very key the investment house and a counter that just did the similar exercise
5. Market movement - I mentioned in October, that market is clear towards 2015. After which DJIA S&P a was rocketing but unfortunately KLCI was declining. While most said oil was a problem, I told you declining oil was a blessing. Why? Because if oil was good, remembering that we are exporter, and Petronas does well ie more than RM110billion yearly revenue, does the citizen get anything? Answer is NOTHING and inflation continues to go up?...but when oil goes down, all businesses benefit and not only OnG. So think abt it again
6. I also mention similar to the cessation of DIBS in Dec 2013 where there was a rush to buy property before the cease, there should be another before GST

There are more but read carefully. Market is not about TA and FA alone, it's about balance and it helps knowing the balance.

Posted by Saturn > 2015-01-23 11:30 | Report Abuse

Malaysia market decline because of foreign investors. Not only foreign investor in market trading but Developement investors. Those are the ones that affected the market despite our weak ringgit.

Posted by cheeseburger > 2015-01-23 15:03 | Report Abuse

now touching $2.06....hehehe

Posted by cheeseburger > 2015-01-23 15:11 | Report Abuse

Saturn, no need to make so many 'assuming'...
what assuming conservative play...
what assuming warrant...
what capital assuming...

Tell you: assuming my @ss

look at the facts.

how much share you hold in EO? what is your average LOSS

Posted by impartiality > 2015-01-23 15:19 |

Post removed.Why?

Posted by Saturn > 2015-01-23 15:40 | Report Abuse

So is Ecoworld

Posted by Saturn > 2015-01-23 15:43 | Report Abuse

Burger is indeed blind. Today is listing of bonus...shows he does not know what happen when bonus is in and he laughs at price dropping.. I must be talking to a retard or newbie. If I m an ass, cheeseburger must be the hole.

Posted by Saturn > 2015-01-23 15:46 | Report Abuse

I wonder who was the one who quoted CIMB say RM25 billion GDV a and got all excited and the same retard says he didn't buy in. If bought in and just do 2 thing ie sell at 3 and buy back before ex....60% in pocket. But watch and comment...retard at his best...hahahah

Posted by Saturn > 2015-01-23 15:48 | Report Abuse

The burger retard must have had mustard in his sesame seed eyes ...but then I don't laugh at retards but I will make exception for this one. Hahahaha

Posted by Saturn > 2015-01-23 15:49 | Report Abuse

No wander Mc Donald Cheeseburger is not selling well this days, name spoilt by a retard

Posted by Saturn > 2015-01-23 16:02 | Report Abuse

When I told ppl to buy Axiata years ago, they say without TM, they will die. When they did their right at 1.80 they say I was dead wrong to call for a buy. When I say Jamaluddin is a leader they say it was fluke he achieved in Maxis. They say global business cannot sustain with too many competitor. When it went pass RM3 they say impossible to move pass rm4. When hit RM5 they say someone will buy. Now the counter is pass rm7. What say you?

Posted by impartiality > 2015-01-23 16:13 | Report Abuse

Well Hammersmith is still a distance away from Central London if you have been there before. The office demand in London is weak as most of the major investment banks have announced major job cuts. In fact, a few new office buildings near Bank station have stopped work or postponed. They have certainly overpaid for this acquisition.

Posted by impartiality > 2015-01-23 16:16 | Report Abuse

By the way. Sime sold 10 percent back to Terry because they have doubts about his commitment to the company. Thats what my friend in Sime corporate strategy told me. You are correct. He spends most of his time in London and jet set back and forth in Singapore Airlines A380 first class suite. The shareholders have been feeding him well considering his plump physique

Posted by cheeseburger > 2015-01-23 16:32 | Report Abuse

now no more "assume" in your reply....that's good. At least you learnt fast. Mr Ass
Dont assume. Take that as your first lesson in life, if your dad never teach you this.

Posted by Saturn > 2015-01-23 16:34 | Report Abuse

I hv told all not to buy this counter if u don't undertsand. Burger is angry because he wants to buy but I gave red light. Ask urself why is he angry when he does not own the share as he claim, then ask yourself why is he angry if his information is not accurate reading directly fr the papers, answer is he want to buy in but he is afraid and he want moral support before he buys. Again for him alone I say DONT BUY. TOO DANGEROUS. STAY AWAY.
It's worst when someone ask why the share fall and not understanding (.today) it is the day the bonus went in, then I say better don't play the market. Stay home lock your doors and keep ur money under the pillow.

Posted by PakChuiCheng > 2015-01-23 16:45 | Report Abuse

Hahahaha I think u right he wanna buy but scared.

Posted by PakChuiCheng > 2015-01-23 16:48 | Report Abuse

Cheeseburger,Bonus day price will drop.

Posted by cheeseburger > 2015-01-23 16:55 | Report Abuse

PakChuiCheng, dun just read one line then comment. See the whole picture, i am not talking about "just today".

Posted by PakChuiCheng > 2015-01-23 16:58 | Report Abuse

His example is clear and checking historical price is also correct

Posted by PakChuiCheng > 2015-01-23 17:48 | Report Abuse

I also thought E&o lousy counter and agreed with Tan5995. After check on Fitters as recommend by Saturn because HLIB also found the answer there. I sold earlier too mistake. Not defending anyone but the assumption by Saturn is only on the number of shares but the prices are real and lower. If he use all real peak price when selling he would make more than 60%.

Posted by Saturn > 2015-01-23 17:50 | Report Abuse

Thank you at least someone read and did his homework. Can't help those blind and retard like Burger

Posted by Fongfeikei > 2015-01-23 19:12 | Report Abuse

Saturn you are right
http://www.bursamalaysia.com/market/listed-companies/company-announcements/1860189

Posted by Fongfeikei > 2015-01-23 19:15 | Report Abuse

Another one by ECM in

http://www.bursamalaysia.com/market/listed-companies/company-announcements/1860625

Posted by Joel > 2015-01-23 19:27 | Report Abuse

我还记得Ksl Bonus issue 时期，(没记错话在 rm1.88开跑)
股价也是一样下跌。
没记错的话跌至rm1.70 ++ (rm1.70 ++ 维持不到24小时，就给投资者趁机大大购入)
但是现在已回升rm2.00 左右。(想等于KSL bonus issue 之前的rm4.00 ++）
起初我还以为Ksl 会跌至rm1.50.
原来自己在发白日梦。
结果错过了rm1.70 ++ 买入。

好的，话说回来@E&O.
已经第三天了E&O从 rm2.25 开跑
现在closed rm2.02。

别像我那样傻傻的一直在等，结果错失了进场时机。
别受其他人的话影响你认为可以买入的counter。

Posted by tan5995 > 2015-01-23 20:49 | Report Abuse

很高兴第一次看到有人在股票论坛用华语书写。Joel, 我感觉E&O这支股票有点问题,我发现每天最后十五钟有人故意压低价格，然后多数在闭市时做最低价。看样子E&O不会给小股东好處的,如果要買就要特别小心 。发bonus后股票竟然跌到如此2.02,真是奇迹！

Posted by Joel > 2015-01-23 21:51 | Report Abuse

我们是很难去预测，探讨它的走势。
毕竟不是你我在买卖。

有时我们认为那只股好，有前途，股价还可再买入，怎么知道它发生套利。
又有时我们看到那只股连续上涨两，三天。我们认为接下来第四天会跌回，
怎么知道再继续往上涨。涨的时候没买，心想敢敢买，但又没买。
(得看你买的timing)


去年12月里，E&O 跌至rm2.10 +-,我想买了的，但又想到可能会再跌。
结果隔天反弹了很多。

E&O 不是不好，只是我们不是里头的高层，领导，CEO ,MD .
不晓得它的share movement Strategies.

掌握权在big shareholders 手中。

Posted by tan5995 > 2015-01-23 22:06 | Report Abuse

E&O好消息连连，股价竞节节败退, 真不成比率！

Posted by Fongfeikei > 2015-01-23 22:12 | Report Abuse

I agree with Joel. If know how to play can make a lot