HENGYUAN REFINING COMPANY BERHAD

KLSE (MYR): HENGYUAN (4324)

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2.80

Today's Change

+0.01 (0.36%)

Day's Change

2.78 - 2.81

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UlarSawa

35,552 posts

Posted by UlarSawa > 2022-10-27 09:11 | Report Abuse

Ya beautiful. HY green. Haiyoh. Correct?


tehka

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Posted by tehka > 2022-10-27 09:25 | Report Abuse

Very outstanding green today!

Zhuge_Liang

2,391 posts

Posted by Zhuge_Liang > 2022-10-27 09:55 | Report Abuse

Starting on Thursday, Big Oil companies in Europe and the U.S. will begin reporting their third quarter results. The five best-known oil majors— Exxon Mobil (XOM), Chevron (CVX), Shell (SHEL), BP ( BP ) and TotalEnergies (TTE)—are on track to earn $50 billion collectively, up from $15 billion a year earlier but down from about $60 billion in the second quarter. Add in Norwegian giant Equinor (EQNR) and earnings could reach $57 billion. Shell and TotalEnergies TTE +1.88% report on Thursday, with Exxon, Chevron and Equinor going on Friday. BP releases earnings next Tuesday.

The expected earnings decline from second-quarter highs is due to lower oil prices in the third quarter and a decline in margins for refining and chemicals businesses. “The third quarter was the first time in nine consecutive quarters the average oil price sequentially fell, causing free cash flow for most oil-levered operators to decline versus the record highs of the second quarter,” wrote Truist analyst Neal Dingmann.

In a pre-earnings release, Exxon told investors that its chemicals and refining businesses were down compared with the second quarter. In the second quarter, tight refining capacity and high demand caused margins for gasoline and diesel to soar. Margins remain high, especially for diesel, but have dropped for other products like gasoline.

Zhuge_Liang

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Posted by Zhuge_Liang > 2022-10-27 09:58 | Report Abuse

Q3 2022 result
EPS = 2.00 is good enough for Hengyuan.
Cumulative EPS for 3 quarters will be = 2.38+2.00 = 4.38.
No stock listed in KLSE has this type EPS.
The share price of Hengyuan is very undervalued.

UlarSawa

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Posted by UlarSawa > 2022-10-27 10:02 | Report Abuse

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - U.S. and Western officials are finalizing plans to impose a cap on Russian oil prices amid a warning from the World Bank that any plan will need active participation of emerging market economies to be effective.

Officials said no price range has been decided yet, however one person familiar with the process said the cap will be determined in line with the historical average of $63-64 a barrel - a level that could form a natural upper limit.

Such a level is in line with recent comments by Treasury Secretary Janet Yellen that a price cap in the $60 range would give Russia an incentive to keep producing oil.

The administration of President Joe Biden has seen the price cap as a way to cut oil revenues for Russia, a major source of its funding for its war against Ukraine, while keeping Russian oil flowing and avoiding price spikes.

The actual price will be set in coming weeks ahead of the planned Dec. 5 launch of a European embargo on Russian oil and associated restrictions on transportation and insurance of seaborne oil.

UlarSawa

35,552 posts

Posted by UlarSawa > 2022-10-27 10:06 | Report Abuse

Oil rose for a third day after the US reported record exports of crude and fuel and a softer dollar made commodities more attractive.

West Texas Intermediate climbed above $88 a barrel after gaining almost 4% over the prior two sessions. Total US petroleum exports hit 11.4 million barrels a day last week, government data showed. The surge came with domestic fuel inventories at historic seasonal lows, highlighting a tightening supply outlook.

UlarSawa

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Posted by UlarSawa > 2022-10-27 10:07 | Report Abuse

After racking up four consecutive monthly losses as concerns about a global slowdown gained traction and central banks raised interest rates, crude has rebounded in October after the Organization of Petroleum Exporting Countries and its allies announced a major output cut. Investors have also been gauging the likely impact of plans by the European Union and US to punish Moscow further for its invasion of Ukraine, including a proposal to cap prices.

US officials have been forced to scale back the price-cap plan ahead of its potential implementation this quarter, according to people familiar with the matter. Instead of strangling the Kremlin’s oil revenues by imposing a strict lid on prices, the US and EU are now likely to settle for a more loosely policed limit that’s imposed at a higher price than once envisioned.

tehka

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Posted by tehka > 2022-10-27 10:28 | Report Abuse

Top up 4.13 yesterday. Hope zhuge prediction is true and everyone in this forum can huat together

IshraaqNor

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Posted by IshraaqNor > 2022-10-27 12:06 | Report Abuse

Jalan jalan. Tunggu ia sampai harga RM4.30

Ahahah

453 posts

Posted by Ahahah > 2022-10-27 12:17 | Report Abuse

No investors come into this counter. Look like very difficult to move up north.

UlarSawa

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Posted by UlarSawa > 2022-10-27 12:19 | Report Abuse

Then bet US Stock lah. So many ctrs also can play mah. Haiyoh. Correct?



qqq1212 Malaysia other than gloves and selected oil and gas very difficult to stock pick. just cannot find a good catalyst
27/10/2022 12:11 PM

UlarSawa

35,552 posts

Posted by UlarSawa > 2022-10-27 12:34 | Report Abuse

Who sell C24 6sen. Cutloss kah. 7sen tak mau jual. 6 senbaru mau jual. Apa lah. Haiyoh. Correct?

brightsmart

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Posted by brightsmart > 2022-10-27 12:44 | Report Abuse

no, I don't have US stock long ago.

sharemarket21

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Posted by sharemarket21 > 2022-10-27 13:31 | Report Abuse

Stop deceiving the Cw's call. It's 0.001 right now. Should have dumped all. Bunch of inexperience and mini scammers leading many to no return.

UlarSawa

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Posted by UlarSawa > 2022-10-27 14:12 | Report Abuse

Unfair to say like that leh. Those dapat 6 sen can sell 7sen leh. More than 10% return leh. Can get one can buy alot of kfc liao leh. Haiyoh. Correct?


sharemarket21

Stop deceiving the Cw's call. It's 0.001 right now. Should have dumped all. Bunch of inexperience and mini scammers leading many to no return.

38 minutes ago

investor77

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Posted by investor77 > 2022-10-27 17:24 | Report Abuse

Valero, Shell posts bumper profit, so Heng Yuan should follow suit. Shortage of refiners, that s why many countries want to build Refineries. Q3/22 profit of Rm 2, and year profit of RM6/, very undervalued. Profit is in the waiting for market to realize that fair price should be higher !!

tehka

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Posted by tehka > 2022-10-27 17:47 | Report Abuse

Wow amazing. Very good news! Very good close today!

Phoebe

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Posted by Phoebe > 2022-10-27 20:13 | Report Abuse

Interesting article. If indeed true, someone underwear will get wet but unsure it is due to diarrhea.

https://www.nst.com.my/business/2022/10/844023/impact-falling-crack-spread-petron-malaysia%C2%A0

Zhuge_Liang

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Posted by Zhuge_Liang > 2022-10-27 20:38 | Report Abuse

Q2 2022 result.
Average crack spread of diesel = USD44.35
Average crack spread of gasoline = USD23.52
Average crack spread of Jet fuel = USD28.61
EPS = 2.22

Q3 2022 result (projection)
Average crack spread of diesel = USD48.17
Average crack spread of gasoline = USD21.41
Average crack spread of Jet fuel = USD39.28
EPS (projection) = 2.00

Note :
Hengyuan refined 46% of its refined product as diesel.
Hengyuan refined 35% of its refined product as gasoline.
Hengyuan refined 7% of its refined product as Jet fuel.
12% of its refined products are others.
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Q3 2022 result
EPS = 2.00 is good enough for Hengyuan.
Cumulative EPS for 3 quarters will be = 2.38+2.00 = 4.38.
No stock listed in KLSE has this type EPS.
The share price of Hengyuan is very undervalued.

Can huat or not, I do not know.
I know FA of Hengyuan is damn good.

kebling98

312 posts

Posted by kebling98 > 2022-10-27 20:59 | Report Abuse

Falling crack spread means hedging gains loh
Unrealised loss can press hy from 6 to 4
When this unrealised loss become unrealised gains , what will happen to share price lei?

brightsmart

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Posted by brightsmart > 2022-10-27 21:14 | Report Abuse

make sure u look for zhu when they announce disastrous results.

kebling98

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Posted by kebling98 > 2022-10-27 21:56 | Report Abuse

So sadlah VLO up again lah
Sudah take profit lah

kebling98

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Posted by kebling98 > 2022-10-27 22:05 | Report Abuse

Hy buying russia cheap oil
Q4 untung besar loh

UlarSawa

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Posted by UlarSawa > 2022-10-27 22:14 | Report Abuse

Haiyoh at least got analist predict PetronM worth only 4.65 leh. Then HY can be better or not. So far PetronM traded higher than HY. Ini macam HY TP price must be around 4.20 to 4.40 only leh. Betul?

Phoebe

Interesting article. If indeed true, someone underwear will get wet but unsure it is due to diarrhea.

https://www.nst.com.my/business/2022/10/844023/impact-falling-crack-spread-petron-malaysia%C2%A0

1 hour ago

The firm initiated coverage on Petron with a "Market Perform" call and a target price of RM4.65.

UlarSawa

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Posted by UlarSawa > 2022-10-27 22:17 | Report Abuse

Shell profit also not all from refinery leh. Report cakap refinery margin lower leh. Betul?



RWG

https://www.theedgemarkets.com/article/shell-posts-us945-bil-profit-plans-boost-dividend

5 hours ago



LONDON (Oct 27): Shell plc on Thursday posted a third-quarter profit of US$9.45 billion (RM44.54 billion), easing from the previous quarter's record high due to weaker refining and gas trading,

UlarSawa

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Posted by UlarSawa > 2022-10-27 22:18 | Report Abuse

Msia can buy Oil from Russia meh. Last time russia tanker want to dock in Msia port pun not allowed after sanction started leh. Haiyoh. Correct?


kebling98

Hy buying russia cheap oil
Q4 untung besar loh

12 minutes ago

UlarSawa

35,552 posts

Posted by UlarSawa > 2022-10-27 22:21 | Report Abuse

You laughed at siapa. No head no tail. Haiyoh. Correct?


BobAxelrod

Laugh die me.......hahahahaha...

2 hours ago

kebling98

312 posts

Posted by kebling98 > 2022-10-27 22:23 | Report Abuse

Haiyoh read newslah dont lazy lah

UlarSawa

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Posted by UlarSawa > 2022-10-27 22:25 | Report Abuse

Haiyoh DJI up again 4xx pts. From 28660 to 32300 already leh. QR reporting period geng leh. Alot leh. Haiyoh. Correct?

kebling98

312 posts

Posted by kebling98 > 2022-10-27 22:26 | Report Abuse

Asia, however, sees rising imports of Russian fuel oil as the region is now a major alternative outlet for Russia’s fuel oil exports, Vortexa’s Khasawneh noted. Imports from Russia into the region continue to set records. Preliminary figures for October show a fresh high of 560,000 bpd, which is up almost 50% compared to September, according to Vortexa.

UlarSawa

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Posted by UlarSawa > 2022-10-27 22:27 | Report Abuse

Read what news. Parking at Msia offshore kah. Parking only never say can sell to Msia leh. Haiyoh. Correct?


kebling98

Haiyoh read newslah dont lazy lah

2 minutes ago

UlarSawa

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Posted by UlarSawa > 2022-10-27 22:31 | Report Abuse



Itu company ada Msia refinery kah. Dunno leh. Got meh. Maybe in Spore leh. Haiyoh. Correct?

kebling98

Asia, however, sees rising imports of Russian fuel oil as the region is now a major alternative outlet for Russia’s fuel oil exports, Vortexa’s Khasawneh noted. Imports from Russia into the region continue to set records. Preliminary figures for October show a fresh high of 560,000 bpd, which is up almost 50% compared to September, according to Vortexa.

3 minutes ago

UlarSawa

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Posted by UlarSawa > 2022-10-27 22:39 | Report Abuse

Malaysia Will Not Allow US-Sanctioned Russian Tanker to Dock at Its Ports
Muzliza Mustafa, Iskandar Zulkarnain and Suganya Lingan
2022.03.01
Kuala Lumpur

kebling98

312 posts

Posted by kebling98 > 2022-10-27 22:43 | Report Abuse

Hy used to import russia oil mah
If Singapore can import russia oil
Why msia can’t lei?

Remember Q1 got written down some inventory boh?
Later inQ2 written back leh. Russia oil lah ,guessing only lah haha

Ahahah

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Posted by Ahahah > 2022-10-27 22:43 | Report Abuse

The oil no need to come into any countries. It is sold in international water by transfer fr tanker to vessels. No one can do anything. That is how Russia oil sold in Asia.

cK1973

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Posted by cK1973 > 2022-10-27 22:47 | Report Abuse

wait at 3 first la....
standard ma for this counter.....

kebling98

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Posted by kebling98 > 2022-10-27 22:48 | Report Abuse

Kenanga use mogas 92 to analyse Petron lei
Not relevant lah
Which refinery produces mogas 92lei?
They produce diesel l, jet fuel, 97 95 ,LPG , propylene lah

UlarSawa

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Posted by UlarSawa > 2022-10-27 22:59 | Report Abuse

Malaysia itu Tansport Minister Wee Ka Siong cakap no russia oil tanker can dock in msia port leh. Unless HY curi curi use another tanker to transfer from russia tanker parked at offshore one lah. Haiyoh. Boleh?


kebling98

Hy used to import russia oil mah
If Singapore can import russia oil
Why msia can’t lei?

Remember Q1 got written down some inventory boh?
Later inQ2 written back leh. Russia oil lah ,guessing only lah haha

12 minutes ago

UlarSawa

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Posted by UlarSawa > 2022-10-27 23:02 | Report Abuse

Just use the analist TP for PetronM lah. Who care how the analist know or dunno lah. Then use discounted price around 20 sen to 40sen for HY lah. So simple no need to do homework lah. Market price ini macam mah. Haiyoh.Correct?


kebling98

Kenanga use mogas 92 to analyse Petron lei
Not relevant lah
Which refinery produces mogas 92lei?
They produce diesel l, jet fuel, 97 95 ,LPG , propylene lah

12 minutes ago

UlarSawa

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Posted by UlarSawa > 2022-10-27 23:04 | Report Abuse

You mean Q3 very bad izzit. Mau rm3.00 first. Now want rm4.00 pun very susah mau dapat leh. Haiyoh. Correct?


cK1973

wait at 3 first la....
standard ma for this counter.....

15 minutes ago

UlarSawa

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Posted by UlarSawa > 2022-10-27 23:06 | Report Abuse

Thats why China pun can sell to Europe using Russia oil leh. Oil many ada marking can trace the origin lah. Transfer from tanker to tanker pun no one know the origin already lah. Haiyoh. Correct?


Ahahah

The oil no need to come into any countries. It is sold in international water by transfer fr tanker to vessels. No one can do anything. That is how Russia oil sold in Asia.

20 minutes ago

kebling98

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Posted by kebling98 > 2022-10-27 23:23 | Report Abuse

Haiyoh what is the wages for an analyst? Her salary can buy 1000 hy boh? Media reports can trust, all huat by follow their report only loh. Hy eps hard to reach 2 but 0.90 surety boleh dapat one. Rolling 4Q eps 2.8 + 0.18 + 0.9 = 3.88 .
Fa is good but money want flow into hy or not is another story loh

kebling98

312 posts

Posted by kebling98 > 2022-10-27 23:36 | Report Abuse

Thought can reenter VLO again below 110 but now already 130. Haiz
Whole world refinery stock up, hy will follow them soon

brightsmart

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Posted by brightsmart > 2022-10-28 00:44 | Report Abuse

how can u say FA is good when the company is forever short of working capital? and negative cash flows?

brightsmart

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Posted by brightsmart > 2022-10-28 00:45 | Report Abuse

rich man buys gloves poor man buy hy.

BobAxelrod

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Posted by BobAxelrod > 2022-10-28 08:08 |

Post removed.Why?

kebling98

312 posts

Posted by kebling98 > 2022-10-28 08:23 | Report Abuse

Agree, poor man buy Google Vlo 700 Hy , no money buy gloves loh

UlarSawa

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Posted by UlarSawa > 2022-10-28 08:56 | Report Abuse

Rich ppl buy Apple lah. Haiyoh. Correct?

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