HENGYUAN REFINING COMPANY BERHAD

KLSE (MYR): HENGYUAN (4324)

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Last Price

2.42

Today's Change

+0.03 (1.26%)

Day's Change

2.39 - 2.46

Trading Volume

638,700


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123,785 comment(s). Last comment by kebling98 13 hours ago

kebling98

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Posted by kebling98 > 2022-11-30 00:06 | Report Abuse

Yahloh at least no more worry about the pending unrealised hedging loss of 1000m liao

kebling98

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Posted by kebling98 > 2022-11-30 00:18 | Report Abuse

Back to 3.8-4.2 hovering there until next story loh
Q2 667m profit no LU , in fact it down loh
Q3 640m loss only mah, no more huge pending derivatives loss lei
Haiyah, US stocks much easy to made money lah
Chinaman stock really jjptr

sharemarket21

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Posted by sharemarket21 > 2022-11-30 01:36 | Report Abuse

Kudos to those who have predicted QR huge losses. The only one here and wins all.

Jerichomy

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Mikecyc

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Posted by Mikecyc > 2022-11-30 02:26 |

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Sslee

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Posted by Sslee > 2022-11-30 05:15 | Report Abuse

Philip ( buy what you understand) You would have gotten much better and easier results buying Stondon simple like pchem where we just have another 1.89b of net profit, and we can look forward to another year of 50 cents in dividends to bring down the cost of ownership. I think knowing the business model of hy and petronm is very very important. And knowing why pchem had such high profit margins is also very very important.

My question to you:
Do you really understand Pchem?


SEASONALITY OR CYCLICALITY OF OPERATIONS
The prices of petrochemical products and their underlying feedstock are subject to significant fluctuations as they are influenced both by global supply and demand as well as movements in the prices of key commodities such as crude oil and natural gas. Consequently, margins have historically been cyclical and are sensitive to supply and demand imbalances both domestically and internationally. Supply is affected by significant capacity expansions by producers, and if such additions are not matched by corresponding growth in demand, which is generally linked to the level of economic activity, average industry operating margins will face downward pressures. As a result, the petrochemical cycle is characterised by years of tight supply, leading to high capacity utilisation rates and margins, followed by years of oversupply, primarily resulting from significant capacity additions, leading to reduced capacity utilisation rates and margins.


Outlook. We are in view that PCHEM’s profits will peak in FY22 and decline in FY23f. With the imminent start-up of new supplies globally (which has been delayed for c.2 years owing to the pandemic), we strongly believe that the petrochemical upcycle is now behind us as product spreads are seen to be coming off their respective peaks. While we note that Perstorp’s contribution will essentially boost PCHEM’s earnings in 4Q22 onwards, we advise investors to look further beyond the quarterly horizon and to lock in profits amidst the likely outcome of a petrochemical bear cycle in 202 3. Also, we highlight that the group’s Pengerang Petrochemical plant is closed due to the recent fire incident in the region, in hopes to restart the plant in 1Q23.

Sslee

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Posted by Sslee > 2022-11-30 05:24 | Report Abuse

Mike,
I am deeply sorry if you loss money in HRC. My intention is noble as I wanted to return you a favor in recommending MMC and allowed me to earn RM 180K.

May be it was my bad karma hence I deserved to loss money in HRC. Another new tip for you, I am buying Jayatiasa and this time I will sell at RM 1.20.

Good luck to you.

Sslee

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Posted by Sslee > 2022-11-30 07:42 | Report Abuse

Hahahaha,
I3lurker a good one. I can't stop rolling on the floor laughing.

Sslee

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Posted by Sslee > 2022-11-30 07:48 | Report Abuse

By the way, maybe i3lurker is right. My dark side actually trying to pull a fast one on Mike.

So I pledge guilty as charged with criminal intent of inducing MikeCheatYouCrazy, a mentally challenged individual residing in Tanjung Rambutan to part with his Sea Shells to pay for shares of HRC, a loss making company listed on BURSA.

Mikecyc

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Posted by Mikecyc > 2022-11-30 08:09 |

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Mikecyc

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Mikecyc

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UlarSawa

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Posted by UlarSawa > 2022-11-30 08:22 | Report Abuse

Good morning. Today is the judgement day for the competition leh. QR keluar already. Siapa the.best tukang tilik today closing price referee will declare the winner. Tak mau too gancheong maybe not that bad leh. Correct?

UlarSawa

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Posted by UlarSawa > 2022-11-30 08:25 |

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Mikecyc

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Mikecyc

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Posted by Mikecyc > 2022-11-30 08:27 |

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UlarSawa

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Posted by UlarSawa > 2022-11-30 08:27 | Report Abuse

Ular pun cannot sleep well semalam sold one batch saham and beli balik at lower price. Kira pun ada kfc juga. Hope pre market can get kfc again. Sikit kfc pun better than dont have sifut king crab lobster and abalone to eat leh. Tak mau greedy is correct leh. Haiyoh. Correct?

UlarSawa

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Posted by UlarSawa > 2022-11-30 08:32 |

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Mikecyc

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Posted by Mikecyc > 2022-11-30 08:39 |

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UlarSawa

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Posted by UlarSawa > 2022-11-30 08:40 | Report Abuse

Dunno ular punya TP range boleh tahan lagi kah. 4.20 to 5.96 the PE range no longer correct liao leh. Need to revise to see what the market prefer PE leh. Haiyoh. Correct?

UlarSawa

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Posted by UlarSawa > 2022-11-30 08:42 | Report Abuse

Walao seller queue sampai 4.15 liao leh. Pecah Ular punya TP liao leh. Haiyoh. Correct?

pang72

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Posted by pang72 > 2022-11-30 08:45 | Report Abuse

Wah!!... Another Hong Kong drams series final episode. after msc, AYS, HIAPTEK then Ini HENGYUAN..
As usual, HERO run away the money and disappear..

pang72

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Posted by pang72 > 2022-11-30 08:48 | Report Abuse

Ular Referee..
So, what is the outcome of your QR estimation? Who is champion wow!!
Need to kasih hadiah because final episode liao...
Hero run away liao...
Who is real liar should declared so people don't always fall into trick mah

UlarSawa

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Posted by UlarSawa > 2022-11-30 08:50 | Report Abuse

After today 4.50 pm then will declare the winner leh. Haiyoh. Boleh?

CharlesT

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Posted by CharlesT > 2022-11-30 08:50 | Report Abuse

Hall Of Shame in HY
1) Probability
2) My Sifu OTB
3) My Senior SSLee

Why??

Mikecyc

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Posted by Mikecyc > 2022-11-30 08:50 |

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pang72

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Posted by pang72 > 2022-11-30 08:52 | Report Abuse

Boleh la....
Geng cheong looks at people panic sell HRC..

UlarSawa

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Posted by UlarSawa > 2022-11-30 08:52 | Report Abuse

Now queue at 4.18. hope can tahan abit leh. Tak mau open terus selling down then very ugly liao leh. Haiyoh. Correct?

pang72

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Posted by pang72 > 2022-11-30 08:54 | Report Abuse

This syndicate blow the cow to the sky for rm2 QR
The pity cow, fat cow, heavy cow fall from sky for - rm2 QR will make a big crash on ground..

pang72

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Posted by pang72 > 2022-11-30 08:56 | Report Abuse

You don't run at 900am, you wait for rm2. 5

UlarSawa

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Posted by UlarSawa > 2022-11-30 08:58 | Report Abuse

Queue at 4.14 now. Cham lor. Dunno siapa ada mau trying out their tangkap the falling kapak skill leh. Anyone want to try your skill. Today is another chance to test out your skill. Ular case study cannot judi leh. But Ular can paper trade leh. Takda real judi is not wrong leh. Haiyoh. Boleh?

CharlesT

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Posted by CharlesT > 2022-11-30 08:59 | Report Abuse

Who or which Sifu of stock mkt can i still trust in future???

hoot9e996

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Posted by hoot9e996 > 2022-11-30 09:01 | Report Abuse

wow tekan kuat kuat

icecool

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Posted by icecool > 2022-11-30 09:02 | Report Abuse

omg

hoot9e996

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Posted by hoot9e996 > 2022-11-30 09:03 | Report Abuse

bought 3.5 sold 3.7
wow

UlarSawa

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Posted by UlarSawa > 2022-11-30 09:04 | Report Abuse

Habis pecah rm4 convincingly sampai rm3.45 pun hit. Shortists punya kerja kah. Or all run road at the same time kah. Now ada rebound to 3.70Haiyoh. Correct?

hoot9e996

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Posted by hoot9e996 > 2022-11-30 09:04 | Report Abuse

maybe sold too early.....

sharemarket21

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Posted by sharemarket21 > 2022-11-30 09:05 | Report Abuse

As predicted. Oil price and all factors. Wiped up everything. No mercy..

mf

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Posted by mf > 2022-11-30 09:06 | Report Abuse

collecting rebound

UlarSawa

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Posted by UlarSawa > 2022-11-30 09:06 | Report Abuse

Takda LD leh. So far still ok leh. Haiyoh. Correct?

MoneyMakers

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Posted by MoneyMakers > 2022-11-30 09:06 |

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icecool

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Posted by icecool > 2022-11-30 09:09 | Report Abuse

qr so bad where all the i3 sifu please come out and blow water

sharemarket21

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Posted by sharemarket21 > 2022-11-30 09:11 | Report Abuse

MM is the champ..Those who got influenced and cashed out earlier. 7,6, 5 and 4.5. Well done. The trap has been set up for quite sometime. CW total loss.

VincentTang

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Posted by VincentTang > 2022-11-30 09:11 | Report Abuse

Limit down price 3.19 coming soon. Bagi dia limit down few days,

Windy1974

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Posted by Windy1974 > 2022-11-30 09:15 | Report Abuse

Sslee. I believe you genuinely believed in HY. The most important thing in life is to learnt your lesson and improve. However, if your improvement is buying Jayatiasa, then i believe you would repeat your cycle. You would need to evaluate your stock selection criteria. You bought Boustead Plantation because of NTA and see where they lead you? QR loss when others are still making money. You are in your 60s, unless your money in KLSE are small change for you, otherwise you need to go and learn from Grand Pine Alfred Chen. He is available on youtube or FB live free

pang72

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Posted by pang72 > 2022-11-30 09:15 | Report Abuse

Likely limit down

hoot9e996

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Posted by hoot9e996 > 2022-11-30 09:15 | Report Abuse

fuiyoh!! fast money with some heart attack

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