Posted by koyak71 > 2014-05-21 20:36 | Report Abuse

airo..email i kvaresources@gmail.com

Posted by apprentice > 2014-05-21 21:24 | Report Abuse

Petdag CI 4 months to expiry. Ex price RM 26.50. Ratio 20 to 1.
Buying at today's price of 3.5 sen, Petdag needs to be RM 27.20 by end Sep just to break even.
Petdag CJ, 8 months to expiry. Ex price RM 30.00. Ratio 25 to 1. At today's price of 2 sen, Petdag needs to be at RM 30.50 by end Jan 2015.
Looking at 1Q results, Petdag may be kept at RM 20 to RM 25 range. Even at RM 25, it is considered overvalued unless profit margin improves by 3Q. Negative ROI, reduced EPS and DY, will only reconsider if drop below RM 20.
Petdag CI at 1 sen maybe worth a gamble, but IMHO, CJ will be out of the money until expiry.

Posted by prm1 > 2014-05-22 11:23 | Report Abuse

This is not the way to analyze warrants. With your way, you would miss most, if not all, potential money making warrants.

Posted by prm1 > 2014-05-22 11:27 | Report Abuse

CI and CJ are likely to rebound at anytime. Good luck.

Posted by Airo Chasz > 2014-05-22 12:26 | Report Abuse

yes prm1 correct

Posted by benson911 > 2014-05-22 15:37 | Report Abuse

Poor outlook, looking at RM20 level....

Posted by trader96 > 2014-05-22 16:04 | Report Abuse

RM20 is coming soon...

Posted by garygee77 > 2014-05-22 16:28 | Report Abuse

waiting...will grab once hit rm20

Posted by apprentice > 2014-05-22 16:42 | Report Abuse

prm, do tell me how you analyse call warrants, I would like to know.
Do you know how to calculate intrinsic value of call warrants?
By the way I bought TM CZ at 13 sen end of Feb and sold it off at 40 sen on 19 May.
CI and CJ rebound? Based on what? Your gut feeling?

Posted by koyak71 > 2014-05-22 19:04 | Report Abuse

Dunt gaduh2 lor...make yur own judgement. ..fyi last week I make few thousand also from petdag ci the first day it from 29.6 to 27. I only find the opportunity intra day or whether the stock can rebound.

Posted by apprentice > 2014-05-22 21:06 | Report Abuse

Don't BS. The day Petdag drop from 29.7 to 26.90, Petdag CI opened at 18 and straight drop all the way to 8 before closing at 8.5 sen. Intra day, the next price was lower than the previous, so don't BS about making thousands.
Some of you have gone in at above 5 sen and now holding a time bomb and trying to promote CI and CJ so that you can sell off. As long as Petdag is below 25, don't hope for any rebound of CI and CJ. Anyway good luck.

Posted by Airo Chasz > 2014-05-22 21:19 | Report Abuse

haha funny

Posted by Wong > 2014-05-22 21:42 | Report Abuse

Koyak didnt lie...petdag ci hit 8.5cents n rebounce to 12cents then all the way down to 8c.5cents

Posted by Airo Chasz > 2014-05-22 22:04 | Report Abuse

make money oso want to fight

Posted by koyak71 > 2014-05-22 22:14 | Report Abuse

Thanks wong...thats mean u also monitor the counter the whole day like like I did. Apperentice maybe monitor twice a day on that day.

Posted by koyak71 > 2014-05-22 22:17 | Report Abuse

If you are salaryman better be mid term investor..im self employed so I can monitor from 8.30 to 5 everyday to look for opportunity to buy when down sell when rebounce.

Posted by apprentice > 2014-05-22 22:19 | Report Abuse

Hahaha, good for you then. Anyway good luck to all holding CI and CJ. See you at 1 sen or below.

Posted by Airo Chasz > 2014-05-22 22:37 | Report Abuse

koyak..kolek banyak2 cj..lowest cheapest longest cw to date prem jz 29 only

Posted by koyak71 > 2014-05-22 22:58 | Report Abuse

Airo...tak berani keep byk2 dulu sudah kena kulim cn...

Posted by Airo Chasz > 2014-05-22 23:02 | Report Abuse

kulim tu dh nk expired,,ni lama gile lg.buat investment

Posted by Airo Chasz > 2014-05-22 23:04 | Report Abuse

petdag down knee-jerk reaction bila mas nak cut route,,but start next year baru mas will cut if really want cut..furthermore new contract supply minyak utk Turkish Airline , Air France cover baik punya.haha

Posted by koyak71 > 2014-05-23 00:00 | Report Abuse

airo...thanks for the advise...will buy if drop to 1 cent....

Posted by trader96 > 2014-05-23 12:07 | Report Abuse

don't buy the GLC counter...all the way down n down!!

Posted by kkteng70 > 2014-05-23 12:43 | Report Abuse

This is like free fall

Posted by sookfun > 2014-05-23 13:30 | Report Abuse

hi, guys if the warrant expired, mean our money burn?

Posted by sookfun > 2014-05-23 13:31 | Report Abuse

1st time invest in warrant, would like to know more on warrant, thanks

Posted by EraBiz > 2014-05-23 15:46 | Report Abuse

Depend who is the seller ... You sell and EPF sell is totally different story ...

Posted by apprentice > 2014-05-23 17:42 | Report Abuse

sookfun, this is not warrant but call warrant. High risk, high reward. Don't want to repeat here, read my post on 21 May on calculation for CI and CJ.
When the warrant expires and it is out of the money, then your money is burnt. Eg, if Petdag is below 26.50 (exercise price) last 5 market days end of Sep, then CI pays nothing. If Petdag is below 30.00 by end Jan 15, same applies. So it is up to you, if you think Petdag will rebound strongly, it is worth a try. But be prepared to lose everything if IB continues to depress the price prior to expiry.

Posted by Airo Chasz > 2014-05-23 23:09 | Report Abuse

apprentice que at 1cts.will give u haha

Posted by Wong > 2014-05-24 05:18 | Report Abuse

Koyak i miss the 12.5cents to sell :( CL at 7cents.. rebuy in at 3cents n sold off 3.5cents... guess might drop further

sookfun, my advise is, Call Warrant is HIGH RISK stock... unless you are willing to risk to burn ur money, or else avoid from call warrant.

p/s: not against call warrant. Overall i earn more from call warrant then mother stock.

Posted by yaogui > 2014-05-24 09:38 | Report Abuse

Buy both Call and Put Warrant!

Posted by apprentice > 2014-05-24 10:56 | Report Abuse

Airo, I will not touch any of the Petdag call warrants now as the price was fixed when earnings were good and price of Petdag at a high. I don't expect Petdag to be anywhere near 26.50 by end Sep, therefore making CI worthless. There are many other call warrants worth considering.
I am all for call warrants, and obviously anyone will make more $ from warrants than mother when price is up.
sookfun, take the time to learn about call warrants first before going in or you may be burnt badly. On the other hand you can make huge profits if you pick the right cw.

Posted by Airo Chasz > 2014-05-24 19:50 | Report Abuse

ok now good explanation apprentice :) dont fight2 n blame2 others ok :)

Posted by koyak71 > 2014-05-24 20:29 | Report Abuse

Wong, maybe im lucky to sell on the same day that time...base my experienced with petdag n petgas all sw will go up again...forget about the in or out of money right now. Just keep it until expiry

Posted by Airo Chasz > 2014-05-24 23:06 | Report Abuse

koyak.jom try uem c2..3ct rembat dah

Posted by apprentice > 2014-05-25 13:55 | Report Abuse

Airo, I think uem c3 lagi cantik.

Posted by Airo Chasz > 2014-05-25 15:30 | Report Abuse

cantik jgk ,i prefer bigger volume cw

Posted by koyak71 > 2014-05-26 01:52 | Report Abuse

Airo, I tgh target kpj cm ngan zhulian cb..

Posted by Abudance > 2014-05-26 05:49 | Report Abuse

How come petdag drop so much? Rm32 to current price rm23 plus??

Posted by prm1 > 2014-05-26 15:26 | Report Abuse

How come CI dropped to 25 and CJ did not drop to 10?

Posted by pyming > 2014-05-26 15:27 | Report Abuse

Not sure. Looks like panic sell, but the rest of the market is not paniking.

Could that someone shorting it with their holdings, create the margin and to collect back?

Something similar happening with maxis?

Posted by prm1 > 2014-05-26 15:36 | Report Abuse

Then it either CI should be back to at least 30 or CJ should drop to 10 soon.

Posted by john29 > 2014-05-26 18:57 | Report Abuse

Kalau i ada duiit i sapu dis counter.

Posted by koyak71 > 2014-05-26 19:35 | Report Abuse

Airo....tomolo kpj cm will rise if mother shoot 3.50 above..got bullet?

Posted by Airo Chasz > 2014-05-26 20:32 | Report Abuse

ok noted koyak

Posted by yaogui > 2014-05-27 15:47 | Report Abuse

Petronas New launched Primax 95 with advanced Energy Formula very powerful and fuel Save....I believe it share price will re-bounce soon....

Posted by koyak71 > 2014-05-27 16:18 | Report Abuse

yes...i really hope that petdag will rebound

Posted by Muhammad Hanafi > 2014-05-27 19:17 | Report Abuse

next festive season, consumption for fuel sure will increase, hope the price will increase too.

Posted by Muhammad Hanafi > 2014-05-27 19:19 | Report Abuse

EPF acquired more than 100k PETDAG securities yesterday.

Posted by Wong > 2014-05-27 20:57 | Report Abuse

Koyak...u get any CI at 2.5cents today?