I am wondering why the planation segment of CBIP has been loosing money for the last 5 years even at high palm oil price now. As sharehoders we should sk the questions in AGM.
Good read properly the latest Qtr lah....all its plantation business making money mah!
Posted by MM78 > Jun 12, 2021 4:16 PM | Report Abuse
I am wondering why the planation segment of CBIP has been loosing money for the last 5 years even at high palm oil price now. As sharehoders we should sk the questions in AGM.
Posted by Reichwerden > Jun 14, 2021 10:43 AM | Report Abuse
Many plantation business is making lost.. . Miss manage or young tree.
In my opinion, the chances of miss management is not high considering the fact that the board has many years of experience in the palm oil industry and Mr Mak Chee Meng was dedicated to take care of the green field development of the entire project. I also rule out the possibility of labour shortage. I notice that the sector include oil milling too. I think the losses (2020 - 12.7mil & 2019 - 19.7mil) and the last Q we have a small profit of 1.7mil was due the high new planting cost & start up cost of the oil mill.
They are suppose to get more aggressive last year in planting and I'm disappointed to note the low planting acreage of only 200 Hectares for 2020.
The lower revenue QoQ is due to lower production. The production for next Q onwards should be heading north. Hopefully, the oil mill will achieve better economy of scale with higher production.
Utilization rate for our refinery plant in 1Q21 is 10%. This segment recorded a higher revenue of RM58.3 million & a profit of 851,000. Any comments????
better-than-expected performance at refinery segment is a great surprise.
It is good to know that Orderbook at oil mill engineering segment trended up to RM345m as at 30 Jun 2021 (from RM289m as at 31 Mar 2021), as the group secured 4 new contracts in Indonesia during 2Q21.
Very disappointed with the upstream plantation segment.
Orderbook at SPV segment, on the other hand, swell to RM138m as at 30 Sep 2021 (from RM70m as at 30 Jun 2021), due to new contract secured (amounted to ~RM77m, which will be recognised over the next 2 years).
Correctloh...if u factor in increase in cost of 10%...the production cost of CPO is Rm 2750 m/t.
Current CPO future 12 mths average ( Average from future Jan 2022 to Dec 2022) pm 4250!
U still talking about very outstanding Gross Margin of about 36% compare to usual 10% mah!
Plantation will record sky high profit going fwd loh!
Btw...usual norm of cost of production is only around Rm 2200 per tonnes!
Posted by Johnzhang > Dec 10, 2021 11:33 AM | Report Abuse
Some Investors may be concern of the labour and fertilizer cost increase on plantation company’s performance in 2022. The IBs and media are very prone to look at only one side of the equation and they seriously lack professionalism.
My view is oil palm plantation will still be laughing to the banks next year. Mind you that most big time CPO traders expect CPO to trade above $5,000 during Jan-Mac 2022 and between $4,000 to $5,000 during Apr-Dec 2022.
Cost of production (at estate level) during recent years (2017-2020) were $1,500 -$1,800 pmt CPO depending on the cost efficiency of each planter. Average CPO price over same period (2017-2020) was about $2,490 pmt as shown in the calculation below : 2017 $2,800 2018 $2,150 2019 $2,250 2020 $2,760 ----------------- Avg $2,490 ================= Therefore, average Gross Margin in past recent years enjoyed by planters were $990 to $690 pmt CPO. (ie average CPO price $2,490 minus cost of production $1,500 to $1,800).
Due to higher labour and fertilizer costs, the cost of production is expected to increase by max. $300 pmt CPO basis. The new cost of production for 2022 shall be $1,800 -$2,100 pmt CPO. Based on 2022's CPO price forecasted by big time CPO traders averaging $4,500 , the Gross Margin of the planters will be $2,700 to 2,400 pmt CPO.
2022's Gross Margin is 2.7 times to 3.5 times higher than the average of 2017-2020.
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Posted by WaNaura > 2021-05-19 18:37 | Report Abuse
agreed