Posted by sosfinance > 2014-04-03 12:52 | Report Abuse

Someone need to come up with a study the following stocks which has very attractive average ROE of 40%, which seldom comes by, Preshld, Inari and DSonic. That means, say they don't pay dividend, every dollar earned, they will produce another 40%.

Assume opening of year 1 its Shareholders' fund is RM100k, and it makes 40k, by year end, its SF is RM140m. Yr 2, it continue to have ROE of 40%, meaning it will make about RM56m, to become RM196m by end of Yr 2, and Y3, it will make RM78m and shareholders's fund will be RM272m. That is a compounding rate of 40% p.a.

A compounding growth of 40% for 3 years, is equivalent to about a CAGR of 10% for 10 years. The question is that can these 3 stocks do 40% CAGR for next 3 years? DSonic FYE profit is RM82m, RHB forecast in 2015 is RM110m, CAGR 2 years of 14%. Using Benjamin formula, the

Dsonic FV is about RM4.40 (assuming 14% p.a. growth from RM82m for next 10 years).
Presbhd = RM7.00 and
Inari = RM4.40 [ all using assumption of 14% CAGR for next 10 years]

Posted by zoomboom > 2014-04-03 14:03 | Report Abuse

bro FIrebird2, logically ppl may choose (B), but more often than not they end up working their a** off to 'earn' more $$$ to pay loans and debt :-) thus they are lost yet again in the realm of "i've got time left, must maximize it to earn $$" ... then only realize it too late yet again... .kekekekeek it is a Vicious cycle....

I agree with your wisdom and definitely keep it on my mind everytime "money vs time" question arises. quality time is veryveryvery important.... as the saying goes - duit boleh di cari bile2, tapi masa, jika terlepas akan hilang sampai bile2... :-)

"live to forget, don't live to regret..."

sosfinance: good stuff. thanks !

HHUATTx3 arr brew's !

Posted by kelvinongbk > 2014-04-03 14:04 | Report Abuse

morning session zzz....any chance of some movement in the afternoon session

Posted by njue76 > 2014-04-03 15:41 | Report Abuse

zzzzz...

Posted by alexyap > 2014-04-03 16:00 | Report Abuse

any advice on good price to go in now? for those than has not bought it.

Posted by Firebird2 > 2014-04-03 16:14 | Report Abuse

zoom bro, when our loved ones leave us, then we will realized that now with money we could not see them anymore. Why when they were alive, we choose to use all our time to earn money, rite?

Any price below Rm4.00 before the bonus is a steal.
I think you will gain a lot too.

Posted by alexyap > 2014-04-03 16:23 | Report Abuse

ok. Thanks Firebird2.

Posted by Firebird2 > 2014-04-03 16:25 | Report Abuse

Welcome alex, you need to keep longer, at least till ex date.

Posted by zoomboom > 2014-04-03 16:26 | Report Abuse

Yes Firebird2 bro. I have gone through a couple of them, and it breaks my heart just thinking. that is why i treasure every second and every breath i take everyday. no amount of money or materials can buy them back. Life is short. very short.

Posted by Firebird2 > 2014-04-03 16:30 | Report Abuse

zoom, we been through them. Am sure you make good use of your time.
You say live to forget, please don't forget Prestariang also LOL
sosfinance have some good info on Pres.... hope it can reach Rm7 eventually....

Posted by zoomboom > 2014-04-03 16:37 | Report Abuse

yes sir Firebird2 ! definitely making full use of my time - quality time with family at every opportune.

hahaha, u mean forget to open my trusty National/Panasonic fridge where i placed my golden goose (oh no this doesnt sound right - well keeping her cool and comfy ma..so that she can lay golden eggs many many times..) u mean? :p

Posted by Firebird2 > 2014-04-03 16:45 | Report Abuse

zoom bro, yup, we keep collecting the golden eggs for a long time to come, hopefully. Maybe its good for generations to come.
With funds well thought of and placed carefully, this will ensure it become our ATM later. LOL

Posted by zoomboom > 2014-04-03 17:08 | Report Abuse

awesome plan :-)

Posted by haha2 > 2014-04-03 19:04 | Report Abuse

how come this forum sounds so sentimental ....

Posted by Firebird2 > 2014-04-03 20:57 | Report Abuse

The participation in our conversation hopefully do lead us to living a more balanced and happy life

Posted by HTP123SYNERGY > 2014-04-03 21:25 | Report Abuse

Hope Presbhd will shoot up tomorrow,then everybody HUAT ARR!!发！发！发！马年大发！

Posted by tewnama > 2014-04-03 23:06 | Report Abuse

bulan depan akan dapat dividen lagi. memang syiok. baru aje dapat untuk suku yg lepas. datang lagi bulan depan. mana nak cari saham macam itu

Posted by kelvinongbk > 2014-04-04 08:18 | Report Abuse

Time to wake up and break the 4 barrier today...

Posted by tonylim > 2014-04-04 08:44 | Report Abuse

Morning tewnama

Posted by brendonyeap > 2014-04-04 09:39 | Report Abuse

Shying away from rm4.00

Posted by up_up_up > 2014-04-04 10:24 | Report Abuse

what a peaceful counter...compare to Dsonic now

Posted by ahnge2000 > 2014-04-04 10:53 | Report Abuse

neighbor (sonic) house catches fire now..

Posted by tewnama > 2014-04-04 11:53 | Report Abuse

pagi tonylim. presbhd best kan. aman dan damai

Posted by zoomboom > 2014-04-04 11:55 | Report Abuse

bro tonylim, morning. memang experienced (eat salt more than I eat rice). yday u said did some mild selling (DSONIC). a lot to learn from you bro. what's your take on the sharp fall today?... further bloodshed expected?

Posted by gaomin > 2014-04-04 11:56 | Report Abuse

Better up slowly , volume also not too big then only we can enjoy the fruitful gain from this counter . Can switch some fund from dsonic to this counter .

Posted by zoomboom > 2014-04-04 11:57 | Report Abuse

bro tewnama, memang best PRESBHD. enjoy the scenery.... i top up lagi tadi. harap2 my analysis and faith is correct.... untuk dividennya, yg seterusnye bile ex-date? adakah hanya tahu lepas EGM 16 April?

Posted by tewnama > 2014-04-04 12:04 | Report Abuse

zoom, selepas egm luluskan resolusi bonus, sykt akan kemukakan kertas kerja resolusi kpd Bursa dan Bursa akan tetap kan tarikh ex-date yg biasanya 2 - 3 minggu

Posted by zoomboom > 2014-04-04 12:06 | Report Abuse

oraits. terima kasih bro tewnama. bro akan hadir EGM 16 April?... nampaknya hasrat bro untuk beli myVI untuk anak u kena tunggu lama sikit.. takpe, i am sure sure sampai punye... stay cool and steady :-)

Posted by zoomboom > 2014-04-04 12:07 | Report Abuse

bro tewnama, sebenarnye zoom tanye ex-date dividen... bukan ex-date bonus...

Posted by tewnama > 2014-04-04 12:11 | Report Abuse

zoom, memang saying betul dsonic jatuh menjunam hari ini. mula mula I cadangan beli bulan May. awal minggu ini naik banyak dan I ingat boleh beli awal. tapi nampaknya kena ikut bulan May balik. tak apa.

Posted by zoomboom > 2014-04-04 12:17 | Report Abuse

takpe bro tewnama. sabar. saya rase mungkin ini juga isi tersirat uncleZ "The party just began".

ingat lagi post yg lepas yang beliau katakan, banyak UMA akan datang tahun ini.. mungkin ini juga dikaitkan party just began :-)... tapi kita ingat juga yg beliau mengatakan: UMA adalah baik. Saya percaya warning dan designation ini adalah baik untuk DSONIC. - ini akan deter ppl from buying on loan (duit yang sebenaryne bukan milik anda) - "free money" inilah yg akan menjahanamkan kebanyakan retail players.

Posted by blackhat > 2014-04-04 14:39 | Report Abuse

slow and steady towards RM4 and beyond

Posted by njue76 > 2014-04-04 14:43 | Report Abuse

saya sudah mengundi ( X )for bonus isue by pos..he.he..

Posted by tewnama > 2014-04-04 14:44 | Report Abuse

senyap senyap dah mahu cium 4.00. itu lah sepatutnya cara nya. jangan terlalu ghairah raba raba harga sehingga orang dengki macam dsonic.

Posted by brendonyeap > 2014-04-04 14:48 | Report Abuse

rm4.00 coming

Posted by tewnama > 2014-04-04 14:50 | Report Abuse

tiiiingg! sekarang 4.00

Posted by rxo2626 > 2014-04-04 14:58 | Report Abuse

hello bro tewnama, dah pindah sini pula

Posted by tewnama > 2014-04-04 14:59 | Report Abuse

rxo, apa maksud pindah sini?

Posted by tewnama > 2014-04-04 15:00 | Report Abuse

Kurang kurang nya ada Presbhd yg memberi sikit senyum bila masa muram di dsonic

Posted by zoomboom > 2014-04-04 15:01 | Report Abuse

yippie. rezeki dapat. tambah 5 bijik pagi tadi kekeke.

Posted by tewnama > 2014-04-04 15:02 | Report Abuse

zoom, u banyak hebat nampak

Posted by rxo2626 > 2014-04-04 15:03 | Report Abuse

hahaha saya pun dah cabut dari dsonic dah terbakar hari ni

Posted by tewnama > 2014-04-04 15:04 | Report Abuse

rxo, maksud u dah pindah sini ya

Posted by rxo2626 > 2014-04-04 15:06 | Report Abuse

ya baru nak intai kaunter ni pula

Posted by kelvinongbk > 2014-04-04 15:08 | Report Abuse

many terbakar kat Dsonic hari ini...at least this counter is more solid

Posted by zoomboom > 2014-04-04 15:20 | Report Abuse

bro tewnama, takde hebat ler... jari telunjuk i gatal... takutt tak sempat beli lagi lepas stesen no.4... sekarang sudah selesai. harap2 akan berjalan lancar ... peti sejuk sudah penuh. :-) hehehe

Posted by tewnama > 2014-04-04 16:08 | Report Abuse

sini mungkin bosan sikit kerana tak kuat berlari. tapi janji tak kasi sakit jantut

Posted by HTP123SYNERGY > 2014-04-04 16:40 | Report Abuse

This 4.00 look near,but yet very far.........

Posted by Muhamad Abdillah > 2014-04-04 16:47 | Report Abuse

mohon bteduh skejap..br lps lari dr dsonic..huahua..

Posted by asamlaksa > 2014-04-04 16:49 | Report Abuse

Ehh sini sudah jadi tempat berteduh regime Dsonic ??