HSI F Shorts : I was wrong and was proven by the market : in assuming that Mar02 gap 30800 wont be filled So Asian hr Open-gap up= 30850 reversed all shorts and double down on longs.
Looks like it work this time.
============================ Oso bought HSI-C3C around .285
I think early-signs of reversal or another bull phase in SSEC & HSI already triggered by HH's China-A listing, and soon be followed by homing of BATJ & new-economy coys there. That would be similar to last year's gigantuous HSI's rally following the HK-Shanghai-Shz link with floods of liquidity from North-Water.
We should be kept bombarded with belated news from western media re "...Bumper year seen for stock listings in HK amid a 'new economy' rally......." from now on until HSI peak in a week or 2....
They (whites or hired bananas) are now still at the stage of "...flashing warning signal"s (and all the China collapse blah blah blahs) as they have always been doing for the last 20 yrs.....
hanwen RICH!!!!! wait a holy moment!!! Your luck is turning!!! There will be plenty of BIG GOOD ANGPOW awaiting you up till next monday........SO, SELL AT BEST!!! Best of luck!!!
(I shall do some reposts from investing.com HSIF forum tonite, when free.... for you) 21/03/2018 19:20
or you can read it up there yourself before this....
Yup, haven't sold them yet. I reached my limit when hsi hit 32000 in the morning. I decided to sell them upon retracement after lunch. It was a uncomfortable lunch. But by then, the slide begin.
RICH!!!! Glad to hear that. Hope you can make the MAXIMUM of your H-holdings. I think this "SHTF" down journey starting from today's 11.am's 32,000 could be multi-days, maybe uptill next tue 27Mar TP=30020 a net 2000pts angpows!!!!
I am fully in this right from 31900, so i shall be full-time monitoring from now (days & nights--literally).
Here is repostings from investing's HSIF forum , to share with friends here :
#1) from the Hanwen Yeh Mar 18, 2018 6:11PM GMT Friday close Dow up +72. Would the Monday HSIF open mysteriously gap down 31200 (-300+), if so its following behaviour would be predictable. Reply 0 0 Chan CharlieChan Charlie Mar 19, 2018 1:47AM GMT Mysterious things do happen. You are right on the gap down at opening, Cheers Reply 0 0 Vincent LiVincent Li Mar 19, 2018 2:20PM GMT Holy cow...how did you predict that? Reply 0 0
#3) Hanwen Yeh Mar 20, 2018 1:31PM GMT Climbing up the whole day from 31200 to now peaking 21.30 ,just half an hour before NY open (@22.00) and our market manipulator DO NOT DARE TO FACE THE AMERICAN MARKET with its current peak of 31658. So 21.30-22.00 once below 31590, will see 31507(30M,MA20) and after 23-00.00 to close 31230..... Fleeing/fleecing US market of 31658-31230 =-420..... cheh cheh cheh Reply 0 0 Hanwen YehHanwen Yeh Mar 20, 2018 1:52PM GMT I would be even wary if the y perform a false breakout of 31779 very briefly and a quick pull back ---. it would be the start of multi-days bottom-seeking journey---the -1000pts that we have been waiting for? Reply 0 0 Mark DawsonMark Dawson 23 hours ago The manipulation is way too obvious. Yesterday, global index fell, yet HSI seemed not as affected. I started shorting HSI when S&P was at 2700 and HSI was around 30500. Then, S&P got on a little bull run to 2800 before falling back to 2700.. . And yet, where is HSI now? 31500, 1000 points higher than previous. Reply 0 0 Hanwen YehHanwen Yeh 17 hours ago Mark Dawson Be patience for another day or 2.... wait for next HK open for whether:--. . 1) gap-up open : of +180 to 31795-31788 , then you be greatly paid-off for your shorts.. . 2) a gap-down open of say 220 to below MA20 of 31400 (60mins) and then race upward to 317XX to react to Powell speech...... . Personally i think 1) is more likely..... Reply 0 0
#4) Hanwen Yeh 12 hours ago Gap at 31962.5 (15Mins) 06022018 just closed 10.00 & 10.30am------isnt it enough oredi for celebration of Xi's Renta election? Reply 0 0 Loke foong yingLoke foong ying 12 hours ago Hanwen Yeh, can short at 32,000? Reply 0 1 Hanwen YehHanwen Yeh 11 hours ago Shooting star (32004) @ 11.00 am, bearing down by shanghai/SSEC (same @10.00am), i.e. ONE HR .... waiting for breaking down 31900 or 31800,afternoon 3pm.... Reply 0 0 Hanwen YehHanwen Yeh 11 hours ago Short only if ********sure of the repeat of the following naratives in TOMORROW's news and on TONITE's POWELL speech...... :. Feb 27, 2018 - Feb 27 (Reuters) - Hong Kong stocks fell from three-week highs on Tuesday, as investors took profit ahead of Federal Reserve Chairman Jerome Powell's first congressional testimony. Reply 0 0 Hanwen YehHanwen Yeh 11 hours ago *********= cokc Reply 0 0 yiu huiyiu hui 9 hours ago Right now market broke out of the 31100-31600 range and seems rather bullish. What will be the deciding factor in justifying the short?? More interest rate increases than expected? If no bad news, will market go on to retest the previous high of 33500? Reply 0 0 Hanwen YehHanwen Yeh 9 hours ago Shud touch the MA20 (15M) 31882 now 2.00pm.... from now till 3.00pm if cut 31850 and 31800,,. i will take the risk of sideway another day tomorrow.... Reply 0 0 Hanwen YehHanwen Yeh 9 hours ago shorted...... Reply 0 0 Hanwen YehHanwen Yeh 9 hours ago plunging!!!! Reply 0 0 Hanwen YehHanwen Yeh 9 hours ago SSEC led the way!!!! Reply 0 0 Hanwen YehHanwen Yeh 8 hours ago I expect SSEC to hold around 3284 for today close, and tomorrow morning gap-down..... . (maybe, powell make anotherhawkish/stupid speech tonite!!) Reply 0 0 Hanwen YehHanwen Yeh 8 hours ago Plunging so fast like the manipulators has oredi COMPLETED their DUMPINGS!!!!!. . and shall soon ask new agents to print this said story!!!! Reply 0 0 Hanwen YehHanwen Yeh 8 hours ago This TOMORROW story you read today : hahahahahahaaah. . Feb 27, 2018 - Feb 27 (Reuters) - Hong Kong stocks fell from three-week highs on Tuesday, as investors took profit ahead of Federal Reserve Chairman Jerome Powell's first congressional testimony. Reply 0 0
Hanwen Yeh 12 hours ago Gap at 31962.5 (15Mins) 06022018 just closed 10.00 & 10.30am------isnt it enough oredi for celebration of Xi's Renta election? Reply 0 0 Loke foong yingLoke foong ying 12 hours ago Hanwen Yeh, can short at 32,000? Reply 0 1 Hanwen YehHanwen Yeh 11 hours ago Shooting star (32004) @ 11.00 am, bearing down by shanghai/SSEC (same @10.00am), i.e. ONE HR .... waiting for breaking down 31900 or 31800,afternoon 3pm.... Reply 0 0 Hanwen YehHanwen Yeh 11 hours ago Short only if ********sure of the repeat of the following naratives in TOMORROW's news and on TONITE's POWELL speech...... :. Feb 27, 2018 - Feb 27 (Reuters) - Hong Kong stocks fell from three-week highs on Tuesday, as investors took profit ahead of Federal Reserve Chairman Jerome Powell's first congressional testimony. Reply 0 0 Hanwen YehHanwen Yeh 11 hours ago *********= cokc Reply 0 0 yiu huiyiu hui 9 hours ago Right now market broke out of the 31100-31600 range and seems rather bullish. What will be the deciding factor in justifying the short?? More interest rate increases than expected? If no bad news, will market go on to retest the previous high of 33500? Reply 0 0 Hanwen YehHanwen Yeh 9 hours ago Shud touch the MA20 (15M) 31882 now 2.00pm.... from now till 3.00pm if cut 31850 and 31800,,. i will take the risk of sideway another day tomorrow.... Reply 0 0 Hanwen YehHanwen Yeh 9 hours ago shorted...... Reply 0 0 Hanwen YehHanwen Yeh 9 hours ago plunging!!!! Reply 0 0 Hanwen YehHanwen Yeh 9 hours ago SSEC led the way!!!! Reply 0 0 Hanwen YehHanwen Yeh 9 hours ago I expect SSEC to hold around 3284 for today close, and tomorrow morning gap-down..... . (maybe, powell make anotherhawkish/stupid speech tonite!!) Reply 0 0 Hanwen YehHanwen Yeh 8 hours ago Plunging so fast like the manipulators has oredi COMPLETED their DUMPINGS!!!!!. . and shall soon ask new agents to print this said story!!!! Reply 0 0 Hanwen YehHanwen Yeh 8 hours ago This TOMORROW story you read today : hahahahahahaaah. . Feb 27, 2018 - Feb 27 (Reuters) - Hong Kong stocks fell from three-week highs on Tuesday, as investors took profit ahead of Federal Reserve Chairman Jerome Powell's first congressional testimony. Reply 0 0
Ok. I am still holding, waiting for it to recover. I'm so close to letting it go when hsi hit 32000.
Once I recovered from this, I learnt my lesson. No more overnight for me. I'll do intra hit and run only. No point watching the market move when I can't buy/sell anything to act on it.
Hanwen Yeh 22 hours ago The Pre-Powell and Post-Powell Fed/Powell talk HSIF-tonite:. Pre-Powell HSIF = near 31500. Post-Powell HSIF = near 31320 (tonite's US close). . Tomorrow HSIF Thu 23/03/2018 11.30 am = near 30,888 (Fatt Fatt Fatt) Reply 1 0 Hanwen YehHanwen Yeh 21 hours ago To maintain current uptrend, tomorrow HSIF MUST stay above 31080 (Daily MA20)!!!. Once broken below 31080, there shall be plenty of downside to go......Watch this critical level tomorrow Reply 1 0 Hanwen YehHanwen Yeh 20 hours ago That means this fatt-fatt-fatt MUST NOT BE ALLOWED TO HAPPEN (by the manipulators) tomorrow or friday....:. . ".....Tomorrow HSIF Thu 23/03/2018 11.30 am = near 30,888 (Fatt Fatt Fatt)...." MUST NOT COME TO PASS!!! Reply 1 0 Danny DannyDanny Danny 20 hours ago thanks for sharing Reply 0 0 Lorentz YeungLorentz Yeung 14 hours ago Thank you for the post Reply 0 0 Chan CharlieChan Charlie 11 hours ago Hanwen Yeh The bears appear to be taking charge now. Cheers Reply 0 0
B) Hanwen Yeh 10 hours ago Hanwen Yeh 9 hours ago . That means this fatt-fatt-fatt MUST NOT BE ALLOWED TO HAPPEN (by the manipulators) tomorrow or friday....:. . ".....Tomorrow HSIF Thu 23/03/2018 11.30 am = near 30,888 (Fatt Fatt Fatt)...." MUST NOT COME TO PASS!!!. ====================================================================================================. Around 11.20 low 31140-31168.............and now 288...........all these number-plays 300 away still not good sign......... . Remember the daily MA20 support is at 31095 (today), above this means no fatt-fatt-fatt until fri-mon Reply 2 0 Loke foong yingLoke foong ying 7 hours ago Hanwen Yeh, do you still hold the short? Tqvm. Reply 0 0 Loke foong yingLoke foong ying 6 hours ago congrats Hanweh Yeh! You are winner! Reply 0 0 Hanwen YehHanwen Yeh 5 hours ago Loke foong ying welcomed. i divided the loots into 4 batches. All in already Cleared 2 batches (half) by 31031 just now. You should do the same .. . Balance waiting for another big leg down..... . I may go in for more if oppurtunity arise. Reply 1 0 Lee TeeLee Tee 5 hours ago Hi Hanwen, do you read the chart using Elliott Wave or other method? Btw props to your excellent call! Thank you. Reply 0 0 Loke foong yingLoke foong ying 5 hours ago Hanwen Yeh Yes, I have sold half too, thank you very much, I really respect and salute you for your expertation in hsi. Reply 0 0 Danny DannyDanny Danny 5 hours ago Please provide us more insight Hanwen, thank you. Reply 0 0 Hanwen YehHanwen Yeh 5 hours ago There is another immediate gap around 30888 (fatt fatt fatt) down to 30666 (loke loke loke) -- created 09March, waiting to be filled, in very short term, may be tonite, so watch & monitor.... Reply 0 0 Loke foong yingLoke foong ying 5 hours ago yes, SIFU. Reply 0 0 Loke foong yingLoke foong ying 3 hours ago WAH! SIFU, your dream come true liao, geng loh! Reply 0 0
c)Hanwen Yeh 1 hour ago This is my 3rd missing posts.so i am tired going for a shower!!!. . 30Fatt-fatt-fatt & 30Loke-loke-loke come to pass!!! Reply 0 0 Hanwen YehHanwen Yeh 1 hour ago Hanwen Yeh 3 hours ago . There is another immediate gap around 30888 (fatt fatt fatt) down to 30666 (loke loke loke) -- created 09March, waiting to be filled, in very short term, may be tonite, so watch & monitor.... Reply 0 0 yiu huiyiu hui 1 hour ago Good call mate Reply 0 0
We started out Tue am 21/03 near 31900 (peak 32000) and have traced the slide down to to-nite low of 30260 (-1640) or close 30439(-1460) for 2 days , so the unsold portion of our investing.com kakis should have roughly 1500 gain.
I think we should see a further low tomorrow MORNING around 30150, and IF they do a rebound then and CONTINUE towards the close (to corner the shorts) and IF I SEE 30570, i am going in again (shorts/put)........ I am expecting a serious reversal next week (say tue-wed) around 30020, whence, i will be a good boy clearing all my shorts/puts positions-----hope we can see each other there for a GROSS 1900 (31900- 30020)!!!
I'm out. Don't want to think about it during lunch.
I actually bought a call at the lowest point this morning, at 29860 like that. It got match at a blip. The call got up to 10% before crashing down. I panicked and sold it for a pence before trying to buy it back at additional 10% purchase price.
On the US side, I think it's going to rebound up before another slide. I just don't know at what stage it'll be on US EOD and how it'll affect hsi opening price next Mon.
I think it will rebound soon. similar to the trend the steel and aluminium tariff was announced. Both side just want to act tough first. But in the end, negotiation will happen and good news will come.
Damn, now I wished I had entered into position during Friday. The US futures dropped right at the closing.
@StockyC, you're right, there will be a rebound, but won't affect market in immediate future. Fear is prevailing in the market. Tariffs an issue but not the only issue. I'm looking into slight recovery and then further drop.
Even with reversal, it will not reach previous high.
"China pledged on Sunday to press ahead with market opening and reforms while reiterating that it will treat domestic and foreign firms equally and protect intellectual property rights."
What i see is that trump is a businessman for decades. He is more aware than the others the impact of trade war. Hence, it's unlikely he wanted to start it and defy his campaign slogan "Make US great again.". Please note his final goal is to reduce trade deficit. This problem will not be solved in a short term without any strong weapon on hand for bargaining. And hence he created this tariff as his weapon.
If you have watched his announcement of tariff few days ago, he had mentioned negotiation multiple times in that short speech. So, negotiation definitely will come. and trump will embrace all the positive response from China with open arms.
He might not be a good man. But a strong leader can never be a good man.
On a side note, US might expel russia diplomats on monday night. This will cause political tension and might affect the market outlook for next week.
The good news will keep coming. Even if there is no good news the market will still keep moving as it is now at lower low. If no other disturbance, HSI will go back to 31500 within 2 weeks time (based on previous fall). Then, let's see what will happen then.
The recent 2 market selloff are actually man-made. One caused by fed's speech, another by trade tariff. The market is actually still strong and ready to advance.
No, the market is rather bearish right now. Although hsi shot up this morning, it's a bit like a bull trap.
I cut loss at the wrong time, at the peak. US market is no longer in its bull run. If S&P didn't crash tonight, I can still reenter in the morning. Otherwise, hsi will gap down. I'm looking at it about to fall anytime now.
I cut my line again today. Got scratched a little. I hate it so much because I can sell for ikan bilis profit at 2.30pm but MM didn't provide liquidity until minutes later. I lost the position. I am planning for the price to appreciate a little before reentering. Let me know when you all wanted to play.
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