These few trading days, selling Q very heavy, seem like impossible to break 0.245 so easy. Everyday just got ppl buy in few thousand lot at 0.245, but selling Q there 60 thousand lot there.
understand from supplier from this industries, they are discussing a factory automation project toward 4.0 standard, value close to 100M, not sure how true is it. maybe this is 1 of the catalyst for price raise recently
ISTONE involves in manufacturing automation business primarily offering design, manufacture and modification services of specialised automation machines as well as provision of Data Management System (“DMS”). The core business is also complemented by machining fabrication and distribution of manufacturing automation software and hardware (robotic arms). The group has over 100 active clients from various industries such as consumer electronics, automotive, robotics and semiconductor, reinforcing ISTONE’s capabilities on the diverse industries of automation expertise. Among the top renowned clients are Dyson, V.S. Group and ATA Industrial having up to 12 years of solid business relationship, with Dyson being the major sales contributor (>65%).
As a strategy to enhance its competency, increasing productivity and efficiency, 10.7% or RM4.2m of the proceeds will be utilised for process and product development. The new products and features in the pipeline are namely deep learning system for vision inspection machine, i-FCT (automated joint-test system) and i-MES (advanced DMS). To improve manufacturing efficiency, ISTONE plans to produce standard modules which will set to reduce project lead time. Another 17.4% is allocated for the construction of new Design and Development (D&D) centre with anticipation of increasing D&D activities, expected to be completed in 48 months after listing. Meanwhile, 13.3% will be used for capital expenditure to upgrade manufacturing capabilities. Lastly, 34.5% and 15.1% of the fund is allocated for repayment of borrowings and working capital requirements respectively.
As at 23 May 2019, ISTONE has an unbilled purchase orders of RM25.79m, providing near term earnings visibility over the next 2 to 5 months. Gearing ratio is set to improve from 0.6x to near zero post listing. Given ISTONE’s expertise on customised automation machine from various industries, we expect earnings growth to be driven by higher adoption of manufacturing automation tapping on government’s initiative of Industry 4.0.
Hmm if Dyson contributes to >65% of I-Stone's sales, it's quite worrying. Looking at Dyson's biz model - they are selling premium product at premium prices, which is expected to last for decades. How many can actually afford these? are there no substitute or potential substitute that is equally as good as their products?
Take for example Apple. Apple sells premium products at premium prices. Well, premium can be subjective, but we are looking at the build quality and the software ecosystem here. Ppl are willing to pay as they are stuck in the ecosystem from the phones, watches, airpods, macbook etc and it all works seamlessly. So, these bunch of customers "renew" their purchases once every 3 years or so (maybe slightly longer for macbooks), and there's also software and subscription sales to it. This is where Apple has something called "Moat".
Now, Dyson doesn't seem to have any moat at all. a LED table lamp for 2.5k? I mean, if all their products work seemlessly through an app or something, then maybe people gets stuck to their ecosystem and want to upgrade whenever their "vacuum cleaners" have a better technology or something. but a vacuum is a vacuum, and there aren't much to innovate (at least for now).
However, that being said, Dyson can still grow globally, selling and marketing to the Greater China, America, and Europe. That's where their potential lies. But other than expanding horizontally to new customers, they really need to look how they can expand vertically too, and getting existing customers to be "hooked" on to their products.
Lol @Yu_and_Mee, my statement above does not mean to bash I-Stone. I was bashing Dyson in fact. I have a substantial position in I-Stone, at average of 0.18. in fact will be paying a personal visit to their factory to have a better feel of things. PE is skyrocketing as the share price goes up, no visibility on Dyson’s performance. That is where the risk lies. All in all, I do have high hopes for this company being in IR4.0, but they have to really look forward beyond Dyson.
I have to continue sharing my opinion if it helps others to understand risk. We can’t be in this forum to just share good news and everything nice about the stocks we own.
Correct me if i am wrong, assuming next QR EPS = 0.20, So total past 4 QR = 0.43+0.22+0.15+0.20= 1. PE is 24 now, is it really that high for an automation company? plus current EPS 0.15 is due to one off listing expense, exclude one off the PE is even lower.
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no nid promote at here .back to your own forum