THE INVESTMENT APPROACH OF CALVIN TAN

WHY IS DIVIDEND IMPORTANT? From Dr Neoh Soon Kean's STOCK MARKET INVESTMENT

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Hi Guys,

I have An Investment Approach I which I would like to all.

WHY IS DIVIDEND IMPORTANT?

Dividend is important for many reasons. The most important reason has been explained a chapter earlier on, that is, dividend is the only benefit which a shareholder can obtain from a company under the normal circumstances. Profit, per se, is hardly of any use to him directly and the assets are only of value if the company is liquidated which is unlikely in a great majority of cases. Apart from this reason, dividend is important for the following reasons:

1) Dividend is a sure thing.

All too often, investors and speculators pay too much attention to profit forecast. It is amazing that so many malaysian companies have the courage to make profit forecast for many years into the future. What is even more amazing is that so many of the investors seem to believe these forecasts absolutely. It is difficult to make a profit forecast a year ahead, let alone five years or even ten years. Such profit forecasts can only be regarded as extremely shaky.

Let us take a recent example. During 1981, when the "property injection game" was at its height, many of the companies which were first getting into property development business gave very rosy forecasts of future earnings potential, as a result the price of these shares naturally went up to tremendous heights. Since then, the housing market softened considerably and the office rental market has declined 40-50 per cent. In just three years, the profit picture of just about all land development companies has changed considerably. I wonder how many of those forecasts made in 1981 can still stand up to scrutiny today.

Dividend is real and it is something which the shareholders can put to some use. Most companies keep dividend at a level they can afford to pay out irrespective of whether it is a good or bad year and is hence a great deal more certain than profit forecast.

 

2) Dividend provides a link with reality.

When the market is truly 'hot',  few of us can keep truly rational and we tend to be swept along in the general atmosphere of optimism. But the dividend yield of a share keeps us in close touch with the real world. As in the earlier example of OCBC, anyone who keeps his eye on the dividend yield of that share would have realised that the price level was totally unreal. Most people would agree that at a dividend yield of 0.4 per cent it would be better to sell a share and invest the proceed in houses or leave the money in fixed deposit.

In the established stock markets of the world, the dividend yield (ie dividend per share/price per share) usually has a steady relationship with the fixed deposit and its interest rate. It is normal for dividend yield to fluctuate at around 1/3 to 1/2 of the long-term deposit interest rate. This means that when fixed deposit interest is around 10 per cent per annum, stock should sell at a price to provide a yield of 3 per cent to 5 per cent. Taking a look at the yield provided by local shares during bull markets, the dividend yield is usually so low as to be meaningless. Futhermore, one should not forget that fixed deposit of 15 months or longer and fixed deposits in National Savings Bank are interest free in Malaysia while dividend has a witholding tax of 40 per cent applied at source.

 

3) Dividend provides a 'floor' for shares during bear markets.

 

Stock markets of the world, especially the Malaysian/Singaporean market is not readily predictable. They can collapse so easily into a 'bear pit' with little warning. If we wished to protect our hard earned capital, we must be defensive in our investment approach. One of the best defense is to buy shares with reasonable dividend yield (i.e. a yield of between 1/2 of deposit interest rate). If we buy a share because it pays a reasonable dividend, our loss is likely to be small even during periods of sharp market decline.

For example, we can buy a share which pays 30 cents dividend at Rm5.00 a share and this gives us a dividend yield of 6 per cent. If the share market goes into a sharp decline, the amount this share can fall to is limited by the fact that it pays a 30 cents dividend. If the price is to fall to as low as Rm3.00, it will be giving a dividend yield of 10 per cent which is about as good as what one can get from fixed deposit but with the additional opportunity to capital gain thrown in.

Most people can see that at that price, the share is probably a good bargain and it is therefore unlikely to fall any lower.It has been my experience that with the exception of mining counters, a dividend yield of 12 per cent seems to be the floor below which most stocks will not drop. In sharp contrast, shares which pay low or no dividend at all do not seem to have any bottom and price decline can hit 90 per cent or more.

 

4) Dividend yield prevents investors from being side-tracked by irrelevant events.

The Malaysian/Singaporean stock market can be characterised by a large number of events which are of little real benefit to the existing shareholders and yet which excite them greatly. I am referring to the large number of bonus announcements, rights issues, property injections, take-overs, and mergers which have made their appearance in recent years. Most of these events are of little, if any, real economic benefit to the existing shareholders of the companies involved.

Despite this, the price of the shares of a company involved in an event of this nature tends to rise sharply. Later chapters will explain in detail why these events are, in the main, irrelevant and some of them may even be damaging.

For the moment, let us consider the following. According to the dividend yield approach to share valuation, a share can have increased value only if there is a likelihood that its dividend will rise faster than originally expected. We ask ourselves in what way events like bonuses, rights, mergers and re-organisations in themselves can improve the future dividend picture of a company. If these events cannot lead to such an increase, the share surely does not deserve a higher valuation.

It is hoped that readers are, by now, at least partially convinced of the wisdom of buying a share for its dividend. In later chapters, the range of dividend yields which is reasonable for different categories of shares will be examined. In the meantime, I leave you with a short ditty that has been popular for years in the US and is still often quoted as advice to first time share buyers.

 

              A cow for its milk,

              Bees for their honey,

              And shares, by golly,

              For their dividend.

 

The above passage is taken from the book "STOCK  MARKET INVESTMENT" in Malaysia And Singapore

By Dr . Neoh Soon Kean of Dynaquest Sdn Bhd (pp 148 to 150) Published in year 1985.

 

Calvin comments:

According to Dr. Neoh, "A dividend yield of 12 per cent seems to be the floor below which  most stocks will not drop".

In the Deepest Depth of the Lehman Brothers' Crisis after Bear Sterns & Lehman Brothers both gone bankrupt Warren Buffet bought into the safety of Goldman Sachs' Preference shares with guaranteed 10% yield.

In KLSE only one stock can give a double digit dividend yield of 10.06% for the next 3 years of 2016, 2017 & 2018 - Pan Malaysian Corp (4081).

PM CORP,  in Calvin's View, Can withstand a Coming Financial Tsunami.

Now take heed to Dr. Neoh's warning, "In sharp contrast,  shares which pay low or no dividend at all do not seem to have any bottom and price decline can hit 90 per cent or more".

The characteristic of past bear markets like the Tulip Mania, The South Sea Bubble, The Great Depression of 1930s in USA, the Stock Market Rout of Asian Finacial Crisis in 1997/8 and The Lehman Brothers' Debacle of 2007/8 have witnessed many stocks & index crashing up to 90% or more.

Discussions
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qqq3

u go check yourself...12 sens 3 times in last 18 months....That is a lot of money to Air Asia with 3.3 billion shares.........

2018-10-25 00:05

FamousAmos

Sohai TanEnd I bet you lost ur shirt. LOL. Stoopid Value Investor wannabe

2018-10-25 00:15

calvintaneng

Post removed.Why?

2018-10-25 00:32

qqq3

5% invested in Value Stocks? lol....

and write like a value investor....

2018-10-25 00:36

FamousAmos

Singaporean with 3 times purchasing power in Bursa but only invested 5% of his net worth... LOL. But act like he is a big time value investor. Quote east quote west but in the end can’t make money. Lmfao.

2018-10-25 01:35

FamousAmos

This is the thing with Value investors. They like to quote quote quote , bash Traders, bash technical analysis, write 5000 words essay , come out with all the jargons but when it comes to performance they are shit. Jon Choivo , KC, TanEnd are classic examples.

2018-10-25 01:38

calvintaneng

Post removed.Why?

2018-10-25 02:02

qqq3

5% man.... talk east talk west...

2018-10-25 02:27

qqq3

Calvin... why your kind like to quote here quote there? no original thoughts?

2018-10-25 02:29

calvintaneng

Post removed.Why?

2018-10-25 08:49

qqq3

5% calvin...

no wonder whether your shares dead or alive makes no difference......

2018-10-25 08:55

calvintaneng

HOHOHO!!!

After sorchai qqq3 lost his shirt and go pokai then only Calvin will start buying more

YESSSSSS!!!

2018-10-25 09:08

calvintaneng

YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEHAAAA!!!!

2018-10-25 09:08

calvintaneng

Post removed.Why?

2018-10-25 09:23

apolloang

u sold ur house to buy or not?

2018-10-25 09:24

apolloang

u waiting maybank 3.00 to buy? hahahaha

2018-10-25 09:25

calvintaneng

TOP SECRET

YAHOOOOOO!!!

2018-10-25 09:29

calvintaneng

Penang got hill collapse, flood endless traffic jam and also tsunami

Better sell your Penang condo and buy landed houses in Johor

2018-10-25 09:30

apolloang

Johor cannot stay there many robbers,now economy bad more worry....hahaha

2018-10-25 09:49

qqq3

Johor got a lot of empty apartments....even ghost city also got.....the ghost cities will be taken over by drug addicts and foreigners.

2018-10-25 09:55

apolloang

my penthouse,i keep many valueable things cannot afford pariahs to ransack.johor famous for that.....hahaha

2018-10-25 10:04

apolloang

my sporean uncle also dare not go Johor to play golf cos kena penyamun,knock his car.when my uncle got down kena rob.many cases there,cannot stay in low class area nowdays cos economy bad

2018-10-25 10:09

qqq3

town center also got many empty apartments.....dangerous.....

2018-10-25 10:14

qqq3

mr 5% should not write as if he is involved in stock market....misled me once.....

2018-10-25 10:15

qqq3

estate agent should just talking about properties, not shares.

2018-10-25 10:16

FamousAmos

TanEnd , they told me indians are mostly roti prata king. Indians cant be trusted. So i start to doubt if TanEnd is actually an indian from Singapore.

2018-10-25 11:02

FamousAmos

During bull market you ask people to buy shitty illiquid high NTA stocks. During bear market you ask people to buy dividend stocks. diuniasing!

2018-10-25 11:05

FamousAmos

quote Warren Buffet quote Peter Lynch. Quote east quote west. i dont think Warren Buffet will ever invest in Banglasia loh !
i dont think he will buy ur shitty calls like perisai , WTK , Bonia , Mjperak, Alam, Dutaland, PMcorp loh! niasing

2018-10-25 11:07

calvintaneng

HOHOHO!!!

2018-10-25 11:08

Jon Choivo

Haha no matter how bad markets get.

I think calvin and kc will always be here.

2018-10-25 11:22

calvintaneng

Jon Choivo is correct!!!

Wait till the market is at its most fearful stage when all wring their hands and give up all hope?

Then will come THE BARGAIN OF THE CENTURY

2018-10-25 12:57

FamousAmos

Lol TanEnd u everytime say ini kalilah it’s a bargain but u only invest 5% . Really ?

2018-10-25 13:37

calvintaneng

FamousAmos bought a lot?

Now sure kena huge losses

Hohoho

2018-10-25 15:28

dusti

This line of thinking is defitely out of date. Move on!

2018-10-25 16:46

qqq3

by dusti > Oct 25, 2018 04:46 PM | Report Abuse

This line of thinking is defitely out of date. Move on!
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B Graham is also out of date, also Warren the Buffalo version 1.0 is also out of date.

2018-10-25 16:50

qqq3

osted by FamousAmos > Oct 25, 2018 11:07 AM | Report Abuse

quote Warren Buffet quote Peter Lynch. Quote east quote west. i dont think Warren Buffet will ever invest in Banglasia loh !
i dont think he will buy ur shitty calls like perisai , WTK , Bonia , Mjperak, Alam, Dutaland, PMcorp loh! niasing
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no warren buffet will buy stocks from estate agent calvin list.....

2018-10-25 16:53

godhand

name me 1 person who can beat warren buffett in compounded annual growth rate record. NO need to start from 1960s. Start from 2000

2018-10-25 16:55

apolloang

jho low lah.....hahaha

2018-10-25 16:57

qqq3

godhand > Oct 25, 2018 04:55 PM | Report Abuse

name me 1 person who can beat warren buffett in compounded annual growth rate record. NO need to start from 1960s. Start from 2000

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some times statistics take a long time to even out.

2018-10-25 16:57

godhand

to make it fair only compare tho those who invest only in index fund

2018-10-25 16:58

qqq3

Jho Low......worked for him....

2018-10-25 16:58

godhand

if he still proof himself with hsi track record it only means he is still relevant

2018-10-25 17:01

Nissy

My dividend stock annjoo is dropping like fly. But I'm still happy with the dividend. Time to average down.

2018-10-25 17:22

calvintaneng

No Annjoo no more future profit for dividend

So Annjoo dividend is not sustainable

2018-10-25 17:30

Alex™

Yes Calvin bro, div is the best

2018-10-25 17:30

calvintaneng

For dividend buy water utility like Pba or ranhill

TA Enterprize as capex for hotel over. Now revenue from hotel operations will be a source of dividend. So TA will be like a reit

2018-10-25 17:32

calvintaneng

Eksons got 93 sen pure cash. So it can give out dividend

2018-10-25 17:32

calvintaneng

Ecs ict is also cash rich as well as Cs steel with zero debt

Both ecs ict and Cs steel qualify

2018-10-25 17:33

calvintaneng

Soooooooo gooooood!!!

2018-10-25 17:43

calvintaneng

Dutaland is pure cash and high dividend

So happy now

2018-10-25 17:44

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