Posted by probability > 18 seconds ago | Report Abuse

Why Gasoline margin came down but its not so easy for Diesel?

I wish finally all the big boys like Fund Managers will read n understand n fully agree with yr 24 hours non stop kind sharings here n push HY to PE 30 like tech stocks

Personally I think I3 is very toxic

Why wanna curse people leh? Bad karma...

U see i always give blessings one.....

To Sslee hoping he can recover his losses in stock mkt eventually

To Probability hoping he can make good money fm HY

Despite our differences

What for to curse people leh aiyo

Fm an established Sifu:

qqq3 has lost all his 100k capital.
I think qqq3 will lose until bankrupt.
Lose until bankrupt is too lenient for him.
I wish qqq3 will jump down from a tall building and become a vegetable and suffer for another 20 years before he dies.
I hope my wish will come through.

Another case:
Posted by Philip ( buy what you understand) > 2020-06-07 08:29 | Report Abuse

I'll just wait until your next big loss for you to disappear from i3investor again. Gamblers like you win 200% one day and lose 100% the next.

Usual run of the mill speculators.

But your initial comment that fa people won't buy glove stocks is silly. I did, I have and I have earned more than 16x my money in topglove over the years. You are the one who got lucky kid.

Let's see how you compound that luck when the speculation ends.

Maybe disappear from i3investor for good this time.

Unlike many here, I think I never curse anyone here to lose until pxkai one

Only good wishes so far

Anyway if yr faith are really that strong in HY U should sialang with margin in HY n wait for the day to happen...like what I did in glove during Mid 2020....

Then really horseh liao....I also wish to see you rich one day in the future

In the first place, why would Mogas 92 crack spread plunged fm USD30+ to USD5+ now, within 3 months' time??

Firstly, they sell Mogas 92 high crack spread forever Ukraine War forever......
Second, they sell Diesel high crack spread forever Ukraine War forever....

Now they sell good hedging profit 2 years or could be forever.....

What's next?

Fm FB i came across such incidents, some people kena lotteries very often in their life n they are having a good life now

https://www.ky3.com/2022/08/13/lucky-man-wins-lottery-twice-month/

LUCKY LOTTERY WINNERS... WIN AGAIN! - DocPlayer.net

lucky lottery winners... - The Olive School, Hackney

Real stories or ghost stories I dunno lah

The key word is Sustainability

If u can go to Casino and make money most of time for a long long time, then u can expect HY to make good hedging profit most of time for a long long time too

Fm FB i came across such incidents, some people kena lotteries very often in their life n they are having a good life now

https://www.ky3.com/2022/08/13/lucky-man-wins-lottery-twice-month/

LUCKY LOTTERY WINNERS... WIN AGAIN! - DocPlayer.net

lucky lottery winners... - The Olive School, Hackney

Real stories or ghost stories I dunno lah

The key word is Sustainability

If u can go to Casino and make money most of time for a long long time, then u can expect HY to make good hedging profit most of time for a long long time too

Not very long ago in June 2022 we saw Mogas 92 crack spread was ard USD35+ and many HY n Petronm shareholders predicted it would stay at this high level for a long long time due to the never ending Russia vs Ukraine War. What happens next is Mogas 92 crack spread plunged more than 80% to USD5+ now.....in a short period of 2 months+ time

What's next? Diesel spread expected to stay at high level for a long long time due to the never ending Russia vs Ukraine War?

HY expected to do good hedging profit for a long long time or forever?

Posted by Rabbit2 > 22 hours ago | Report Abuse

Have to admit that both HRC and Petron are cyclical stocks. Just that how long the record quarterly profit could sustain. Everyone have different view.

Ok I will not include Glove this round for my argument as many said glove supply can be increased drastically within a short period of time (China's mkt share increases fm 6% to ard 20% now in 2 years time)

Not very long ago in Mar 2022 we saw Tin's price was ard USD40K+ and many MSC shareholders predicted it would stay in this high level for a long long time due to the great demand fm EV industry and shortage in supply would stay for a long long time etc. What happens next is Tin price plunged more than 50% to USD20K+ while MSC's price plunged ard 60%+ fm RM5+ to RM1.80+ now

Not very long ago in Mac 2022 we saw CPO's price was ard RM7K+pmt and many plantation co shareholders predicted it would stay at this high level for a long long time due to the great demand n supply can hardly be increased in short period of time (it takes ard 6 to 7 years to see good harvest of fruits), unlike glove. What happens next is CPO's price plunged more than 50% to RM3K+pmt now while most plantation stock plunged n traded in low single digit PE now.

Mayb OTB can write a letter to complaint to SC for them to look into these biased scenario??

Why they prefer a PE 30 tech stock rather than a PE 1+ HY or single digit PE Steel stocks or single digit PE Plantation stocks?

I also dunno

The big boys r not keen on refinery stocks....they like to bet on new tech stocks though many r traded at PE 30 or 40...

Bila pecah i dont know lah....the music is still on

Shhhh.....dont expose our secrets....

Export themes in 2015 n glove theme in 2020...this two alone can last for at least 2 generations

Its too humble of OTB....

Yr ROI fm 2013 is way way way way better....

Rr88's bloodbath curse becomes the strongest bleesings in I3

Now everyone loves rr88

I am a good monster in I3

Same like Cnergen n SFP

Not really lah i dont own this shares

Thanks for yr joke...it made my day....

i leave that to you...my conscience are clear

HAHAHAHAHAHAHHAH......the best joke I have ever heard in 2022

One common point between SFP n Cnergen...

Boss owns ard 70% of the shares

Easier to goreng

Guess we will have to wait for Q3 results in Nov

low income tax rate, I did mention there

Actually most did the same monkey tricks in I3 like Probability.....so why the fuss abt it?

Maybe i get things personally with Probability ....I thought he is one of the very few good smart guys in I3.

I was wrong.

As for Probability, I have seen his monkey tricks in Serbak....So I knew him well lah

Infact I have been very closed with Probability for the past many years, He is one of the very few of my friends in I3, bsides Icon8888..........until I get to know the real Probability not long ago in Serbak

Not many good man in I3......have to treasure Sslee....

The main concern is whether Cnergen can post a better Q3 result than Q2....Q2 made double profit than Q1

While SFP very likely to post better n better Q results ahead

Sslee seems to be a good man to me....

But sorry that from my observations for years good man mostly cannot do well in stock mkt (infact in biz as well)

If SSlee do his own biz I doubt if he can do well

U think OTB earns a lot of money fm stock mkt coz he is a good man ah?

Posted by stockraider > 23 seconds ago | Report Abuse

Raider do not understand whether sifu sslee & probability are greater fool loh!

Maybe they pretend to be greater fool by catching on other Greater greater fools loh!

SSlee i think no lah....

As for Probability, I have seen his monkey tricks in Serbak....So I knew him well lah

As for HY's cases, depends on whether u wanna believe Probability's profit projections 24 hours a day, 7 days a week here or not....

Most investors are funny...

Once they own a share they will only listen to the positive news

5 X RM0.30 (IPO price) = RM1.50

Petron already provided for mark to mkt losses....for the hedging unrealized losses by flowing to the P&L mah!

It's quite straight fwd in Petronm's hedging cases i think...plus 1 minus 1...

As for HY's case, we will see......

rr88 do u know why u are still poor at yr age now?

Posted by rr88 > 15 minutes ago | Report Abuse

Want to chase dont blindly chase. Must look at earnings also.

Earnings coming down 8mil++ to 6mil++ qoq. Next qtr 5mil++ with 0.7 cents earnings. Annualised 2.8 cents per year only.

Fair value PE 40 n below.
40 x 2.8 = 1.12 n below.

At 1.50, there is 0.38 bubble inside.

Now u revise yr TP fm RM0.70 to RM1.12 ah?

I thought u asked everyone to sell (in yr last sell call) not long ago at 1.10+....lol

Waterfish stock can make good money better than waterfish who dont hold this waterfish stock.....lol

1.50....

Breaks new high

Hope u have the chance to recover yr losses in stock mkt eventually

Buy more loh

I3 is very toxic ,full of retaxds n conman

Eventually it will be the same....

Again u guys will say crack spreads will not be the same like glove's ASP, CPO Price or whatever.....