Posted by 3iii > Dec 28, 2018 02:08 PM | Report Abuse

>>>Just as otb admits that he perceives volatilities of the market to be risk, on the other hand, I perceive volatilities to be my friend.<<<

Making money is secondary, the most important is to protect capital.
Once you do not have capital, you will disappear from stock market.
A careful investor is always want to protect capital first.
It is better to slow down or stop when bear market appears.

A lady said 0.50.
0.50 can only buy a small apple.
Correct or not ? Apple !!!

I want to talk on facts and figures only.
No bullshit statement here.

On 4/4/2018, the price of Hibiscus at 2018 low was at 0.71
On 4/4/2018, the price of Brent crude was at USD 67.
On 4/4/2018, the production output of Hibiscus was around 3,000 bpd.

Presently, the production output for 2019 is around 9,000 bpd, 3 times more than the output on 4/4/2018.
Presently, the average price of Brent crude for 2019 is around USD 60.

Do you think the price of Hibiscus will drop to 0.50 ?
I think you should have your good answer here instead of passing bullshit statement in I3.

The production output for 2019 is 9,000 bpd, the production output for 2021 is 20,000 bpd. There is a strong growth of 100% in next 2 years.

What is the price of Hibiscus in 2021 ?
0.50, 1.00, 1.50, 2.00, 2.50, 3.00 ???
Which is the correct answer ?
Definitely not 0.50.

If you take a view of 1 month, 2 months or 3 months, I do not know whether the price will drop to 0.50 or not.
But if you look at the price on 1 year time frame, I think at 0.50 is a wrong answer.

Up_down,
You are very good and you hit the jackpot.
You are 100% correct I think.
Divide our investments into Property, FD and share investment are a better strategy.
When the stock market is bearish, it is better to put money into FD.
When bull market appears again, withdraw from FD to load the stock market is a better move. Invest in share in a bull market will definitely able to cover the interest earned from FD.

Posted by hollandking > Dec 25, 2018 09:31 PM | Report Abuse

If you looked at what otb sifu had written, even sifus after some, they will suffered losses too but he locked in those profit by buying properties instead of all in shares.

May be it is good to get out of a bear market completely for a while to protect capital. If we got out in Feb 2018, we should save a lot of our capital loss.

I want to talk on facts and figures only.
No bullshit statement here.

On 4/4/2018, the price of Hibiscus at 2018 low was at 0.71
On 4/4/2018, the price of Brent crude was at USD 67.
On 4/4/2018, the production output of Hibiscus was around 3,000 bpd.

Presently, the production output for 2019 is around 9,000 bpd, 3 times more than the output on 4/4/2018.
Presently, the average price of Brent crude for 2019 is around USD 60.

Do you think the price of Hibiscus will drop to 0.50 ?
I think you should have your good answer here instead of passing bullshit statement in I3.

The production output for 2019 is 9,000 bpd, the production output for 2021 is 20,000 bpd. There is a strong growth of 100% in next 2 years.

I quote from a gentleman,
Quote !!
"Invest in stock market, the important factor to look for is growth".
Unquote !!
There is a strong growth of 100% from 2019 to 2021.

What is the price of Hibiscus in 2021 ?
0.50, 1.00, 1.50, 2.00, 2.50, 3.00 ???
Which is the correct answer ?
Definitely not 0.50.

If you take a view of 1 month, 2 months or 3 months, I do not know whether the price will drop to 0.50 or not.
But if you look at the price on 1 year time frame, I think at 0.50 is a wrong answer.

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Posted by SaveMsiaFromPHGov > Dec 21, 2018 01:58 PM | Report Abuse

Don't believe what Alan Greenspan says. He is only speaking for America.

Morgan Stanley says it's 'outright bullish' on Asian markets
https://www.cnbc.com/2018/12/20/markets-outlook-morgan-stanley-is-bullish-on-asia-downgrades-us-.html

Who you want to believe ?
Believe yourself loh !!

Too early to condemn Donovan.
Donovan bought Hibiscus at 0.20.
Are you better than him ?
Donovan is talking about 10 years cycle.
Wait for 10 years before you condemn him.
No point keep on curse people or blame people.
Donovan did not tell you to buy.
It is his opinion base on TA.

Will continue to lose money until 2020 before completion of Vietnam Power plant.
No cash flow for next 2 years.

Can Vietnam Power Plant complete in time ?
Do you think it is better to wait until Vietnam Power Plant is completed before you invest ?
Invest in stock market, there is no if but must be sure.

Please note that all old projects in Malaysia secured by Jaks, if I am not mistaken all lost money.

Idiot President Trump wants crude oil price to drop, most of fund managers are shorting crude oil future.
Crude oil prices are currently being dictated by derivative puts.
It is a short term thing.
USD45 for WTI is a Fibonacci extension bottom.
I hope no more lower low to confirm bottom.

Idiot President Trump wants crude oil price to drop, most of fund managers are shorting crude oil future.
Crude oil prices are currently being dictated by derivative puts.
It is a short term thing.
USD45 for WTI is a Fibonacci extension bottom.

Posted by Smarttrade > Dec 19, 2018 08:03 PM | Report Abuse

http://www.bursamalaysia.com/market/listed-companies/company-announcem...

Posted by Smarttrade > Dec 19, 2018 08:07 PM | Report Abuse

One off take of 270000 bbls was successfully sold at around 75 usd in November 2018 from Anasuria conformed

Good news, market crash.
Buy cheap sale stock.

KLSE is different from US stock market, KLSE is dirt cheap.
How much more to drop ?
VS drops to 0.20, is it possible ?
Hibiscus drops to 0.20, then sell house to buy.

I hope Hibiscus will do better than 0.765 in future to help me.
Otherwise, it is no face for me in this Hibiscus forum.

I trust a gentleman who spend almost 12 hours a day to do his research including week end.
I also do my own research, hence I understand his hard work.
A gentleman who spend almost 12 hours a day to do his research including week end will eventually make a lot of money.
Wealth gain = hard work, no short cut.
You can blame and you do not understand his big effort.

I will take my last bet for 2018 since I am really under invested.
I added position at 0.765.
Will hold until 2021 if still cannot make good profit on this stock.
I can afford to lose, no worry on this loss.
I do not blame my sifu, I also do my own research.
I will post in this forum again after I make money.
I will stop to post in this Hibiscus forum if I still lose money.
I have my pride in my posting, not cursing and blaming people.

Hibiscus has a strong growth from 2019 to 2021.
Production output increases from 9,000 bpd in 2019 to 20,000 bpd in 2021.
Q1 2019 started to show good result.

Hope 2019 will be a strong economic recovery.

Posted by steven_c > Dec 18, 2018 04:51 PM | Report Abuse

I think we need to realise that the 10 year cycle phenomena will always come with a major crisis or correction cycle. The 1987, 1997-98, 2007-08 and potentially 2018-2019 which we are entering soon. I lived long enough to see all those crisis/recession period and for every of those events comes along with strong economic recovery. Guys, maybe some of you were not born yet during those events and maybe some of you have forgotten what it was like during those period that the pain you feel now seems so unreal. This is not a local issue, if you care to read the papers, the world market started to see some corrections due to many external events such as Trade War, Collapse of Crude Oil prices, The China's economic slowing momentum, Brexit in early 2019, Rising interest rates in the US despite the reducing yield curve between long and short term treasuries, and so many more! And despite all this, you want to expect KLSE to shoot to the sky thinking all is good and dandy?? Blaming the govt, blaming the analysts, blaming the gurus, blaming the fortune-tellers?? Time to wake up to world events guys!

Buy in 2019, you will win big.

Rome is not built in one day.
Invest in stock market is not on T+3 or T+7.
There is a strong growth in production of Brent crude from 2019 to 2021.
The management said that the daily production will increase from 9,000 bpd in 2019 to 20,000 bpd in 2021. 100% increase in daily output.
Production cost is less than USD 20.
Assume Brent crude is USD 60, gross profit margin is still 200%.
A construction company, the profit margin is < 10%.
Is the business of Hibiscus profitable ?
Wait patiently.

Will continue to lose money until 2020 before completion of Vietnam Power plant.
No cash flow for next 2 years.

Can Vietnam Power Plant complete in time ?
Do you think it is better to wait until Vietnam Power Plant is completed before you invest ?
Invest in stock market, there is no if but must be sure.

Please note that all old projects in Malaysia secured by Jaks, if I am not mistaken all lost money.
Do not know on the new project on the highway.

Will continue to lose money until 2020 before completion of Vietnam Power plant.
No cash flow for next 2 years.

Can Vietnam Power Plant complete in time ?
Do you think it is better to wait until Vietnam Power Plant is completed before you invest ?
Invest in stock market, there is no if but must be sure.

Please note that all old projects in Malaysia secured by Jaks, if I am not mistaken all lost money.
Do not know on the new project on the highway.

You tell so many lies, sure cannot cover up all.
You have 10 containers and 9 covers, no matter how you cover up still cannot cover all.

Moral of the story is never tell lie. It can catch up with you one day.

Please learn it the hard way.
Play poker game, how to win if you open your card.
Never buy any stock > 5% like Cold Eye.
Hope he is smart next time.

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Someone is blocking the price.
Need to breakout in order for the stock price to move up north.
Please cross 1.06 convincingly today.

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Malaysian is rank # 1 best emerging market in the world reported by bloomberg.
Good job to LGE and the team.
Despite the uncertainty, our country managed to outshine due to good fundamentals, good governance of the new gov, good corruption-free perception, prudence spending and vibrant businesses

https://www.facebook.com/266790296879/posts/10156905292076880/

Hope this good news will help KLSE to catch up in next few weeks.

It is a matter of time only for the price of Hibiscus to move up north.

Malaysian is rank # 1 best emerging market in the world reported by bloomberg.
Good job to LGE and the team.
Despite the uncertainty, our country managed to outshine due to good fundamentals, good governance of the new gov, good corruption-free perception, prudence spending and vibrant businesses

https://www.facebook.com/266790296879/posts/10156905292076880/

Hope this good news will help KLSE to catch up in next few weeks.

Moneymore has a good intention and had done his homework well.
I want to add the below :-
In last 1 year, Hibiscus had reported many good quarter results, the last quarter result was a fantastic one. Not many stock can match this type of excellent profit.

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Millionaire had retired from I3 for good, wasting time to listen lies after lies here.
SSLee is right, avoid this person, you will "huat" forever.

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The profit made from Power plant construction is not real profit, it is just paper profit used to payback investment in Power plant.
No physical cash taken out from this construction work.

Want to buy Jaks, wait until power plant is completed.
Are you sure power plant can be completed in time ?
Jaks is famous for not complete work in time in all Malaysian projects.

The profit made from Power plant construction is not real profit, it is just paper profit used to payback investment in Power plant.
No physical cash taken out from this construction work.

Want to buy Jaks, wait until power plant is completed.
Are you sure power plant can be completed in time ?
Jaks is famous for not complete work in time in all Malaysian projects.

If you need to look at crude oil price everyday in order to invest in Hibiscus, then it is a very difficult job.
The daily fluctuated crude oil price movement is not within your control.
The production cost of < USD 20 per bbl is good enough to make good profit if Brent crude oil price is around USD 60.
The profit margin for any construction company is < 10% in Malaysia.
Do you think the profit margin of Hibiscus is good ?
Is it better than construction industry ?

I hope the profit he made in 2015 still can cover for this big loss.
This big loss can be avoided if he is not so arrogant to listen to his advisers.
There are advisers told him not to touch Jaks, he refused to listen and insisted to proceed.

The profit made from Power plant construction is not real profit, it is just paper profit used to payback investment in Power plant.
No physical cash taken out from this construction work.

Want to buy Jaks, wait until power plant is completed.
Are you sure power plant can be completed in time ?
Jaks is famous for not complete work in time in all Malaysian projects.

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Need Brent crude oil price up to support share price of Hibiscus.
Close above 1.10 then 1.19 is within reach now.
Up !! Up !!

Do not take it seriously, just opinion only to stir up poor market sentiment.
True, KLSE is still very bearish.

Agreed.
Presently is bearish.
It is bullish after today.
Wait and see for yourself.

Sell your house and use margin account to load in KLSE if you believe it.

Donovan looked at share price based on 10 years cycle.
You want to say he is wrong, you can comment it and watch the result in 10 years.
In actual fact, I also doubt him because I think he is too bullish.
There are many instances, he is right.

He said China stock market is bottoming up, true or not ?
Wait for the answer.

Donovan bought Hibiscus at 0.20, 400% profit in a year only. You have to trust his special skill.
You may not agree with him, please do not doubt his capability.

According to Donovan, KLSE is a super bull market.
FBMKLCI will touch 6,000 points. 300% gain in this super bull cycle.

Donovan bought Hibiscus at 0.20, 400% profit in a year only. You have to trust his special skill.

I hope his prediction in FBMKLCI is a true and correct one, everyone invested in KLSE make a lot of money like 1993.

The worst part of Jaks is that all local projects mostly lost money.

I checked the financial reports, I cannot remember any local construction project Jaks had made money.