You are trying to give yourself excuses for being speculative, you are bohong yourself, when you recommended the shares like JTiasa, Mudajaya, Rsawit, what were their earnings per shares, like what? These companies were doing badly financially and you recommended the shares to shareholders by being speculative. You bought and sold. It is not that you recommended some shares and you have no obligation to shareholders by selling the shares you recommended. Considering your intention was to share your experience by posting about shares to buy, how come, you posted the company shares that were back-burners and those that haven't gone up in the past 5 years. The only time it went up was after you recommended them and the whole episope of going up and coming down only lasted for one month. The rest of the time, the prices of the stocks you recommended were poor perfomers with poor results. Do you give scholarships to students who score last in class? Nobody has ever done that! Why give scholarships to students or invest in them when they are giving poor results in the last 5 years! Isn't this crazy! This is the point.

Mudajaya is a very speculative stock no doubt a major shareholder in the company is very rich (the investment is only 20%). It is very speculative because this company count on political links of its partner is my investment opinion. If they did not get the contract their profit suffers. Recommending this kind of stock to people shows that you buy stocks judging the owners' wealth and not the owners business acumen.

JTiasa no doubt has a lot of assets )(rich parents) but profitability reported has been quite low for a long time. You recommend this company because the father is rich. That doesn't mean that the managers or the sons who run the companies are as good. Rsawit is a back-burner. It has never performed since the share-split and share-split means the stock become speculative.

Your judgment is always based on rich parents and not profitability and also whether the stocks are speculative in nature or not.

You probably got your tips from someone you trusted and share it to the public. No doubt those stocks were speculative, someone accumulated them, and wanted to unload the stocks. It is not because of the palm oil drop in price or else they would have pushed the share price even higher. I remember the run-up when the prices of JTiasa went up, it was only for a few days, and volume did not support, show no big fish. Was speculation and rumor to sell shares and you help them maybe unintentionally. It was not the price of palm oil, it was speculation, because when prices went up, the volume did not increase very much at all. I remembered this when I looked at it last year.

You thought you are doing the public a favor......
But you action hurts some people, not just their wallet, considering your public status. You shouldn't have done such a thing, your area of expertise is construction and not helping other people to manipulate stock prices! Or, you are just like them, you were sold-out by someone your respect and trusted because he has money.
The above is my opinion.

Right now is the time to buy if you are buying for long term investment, I think the price will stay flat from now onwards until there is further good news to announce. But the fall is stopped by some powerful force and will stop here for now.

You don't know how to read technical chart also, we already have a W bottom (after today), the share price did not break the lowest point that occured in the last few months when there was flodding. WE are having a technical rebound but you are saying we have technical bad things. The bad quarterly results are more serious than the flooding and the price did not break the lowest support at that time (RM$2 or so). Do you know how to read technical chart or not or else don't put one that you give the wrong comment about it.

Everytime you release a report,miraculously the stock didn't go downward but upward instead. Why can't you just think why this is so? To not become a laughing stock after a while, maybe it is better to wait until you see the outcome, then you release the report. Everyone including me is seeing a technical rebound right now after a few years of fall and now trending higher (not sure whether it is sustainable or not). But volume decreases so the price stays. Furthermore, what for we look at old data and not the present conditions and future prospects. I actually think and others also think the same that due to flooding supply of palm oil and China imminent economic recovery which is a sure thing is going to push up palm prices in the slightly far future. Why sell now because of old data and not future prospects. Know what you are doing before you post anything, I don't know why i3 forum doesn't scrutinize peoples' posting. Our only danger is management does not know how to repair some damages and act rationally from now onwards.

The price of Insas is going up and going down, and swinging at a certain level, see the today's graph for yourself, this happens only because someone is unloading the shares and haven't unloaded all the shares yet. The going up is because the shares not all unloaded and the going down is because he is unloading it, and the swinging is because he has to keep it steady at the level. Future upside low. Good news already announced---selling a property in London and investment in a tech stock. Business very fragmented and low market share in all the areas the company is involved in over the years. Keep a lot of cash and stocks investment that the boss play the stock himself when he likes. The company basically belongs to one-man show. If I am you, I don't want own it for a long time. The boss is probably speculative and stock guru, his stock will only do well when the all market is doing very well. He smarts what! Why he wants to push up the shares for you to sell. The only thing that is remarkable about this company is its stockpile of cash and stock investment and the coffee business which I think have potential. But as shareholders...there is nothing for us to be happy about.

People who are really rich usually don't write comments and if they are rich and give comments they dig a hole for themselves. You must give to your friends what "they can not see" is my last statement. sorry for all the mischieves the market is too slow and i am too bore today. it was my pleasure conversing some frivolous and others idotic comments to you all. please forgive my nuisance.

This is my opinion only. Mr. Koon Yew Yin is reponsible for himself and also responsible for the things and information he gave to others. That is why I think even if someone is rich he should give advice to people thinking that he is rich and others are poorly. Our judgment are terrible most of the time. Being rich is not going to make an 82-year old man very rich for a long time. Forgive him, murali and everyone led astray by him, be nice and kind. Because we already win if only we are able to be nice and kind to bad people when we see one.

murali, now is the good time to prove it to soojinhou, give it to him man, the fair trial!

murali, it is good for you if you be nice to yourself and try to be happy everyday with what everyday is offering you, maybe some mistakes are for making you smarter in the future---you always need to be not smart to others in order to be generous to yourself and smart to yourself and not generous to others by going in a bad way by not letting your behavior affecting others(saying this in good faith). Anyway, Rsawit/Jtiasa/Mudajaya have a lot of assets are only good for the majority shareholder only because they always report very low profits to share with the small shareholders don't know why? (What do you think?) Instead of sharing, it is all human nature to take care of themselves better than taking care of others. The thing is I feel, whether the company is good or not is not important, whether the boss is willing to be fair and share profits are more economic characteristics investors should be looking at, especially in Malaysia! Anyone will always get a fair trial---don't worry---bad people save bad people when you be bad to bad people you become the more bad people saving him---only if you be nice to bad people when they are bad to you---for them to get a fair trial in the end.

They didn't predict the market, they know what is good for them right now, and they do what they need to do now to promote what is good to people in the future that is how they do well in the future. They didn't predict the market in the future, they create the future they want for themselves and the market in the future for other people. They never look at what is good for them right now and promote it to other people, they are losers because they are followers of the leaders who sold them out eventually, that is why you have 80% losers and 20% winners. I am just bored by writing the forum please don't mind my broken English.

Mr. Koon Yew Yin I know you are kind and very interested in stock investing for fun only. I believe you in my personnal opinion you may be better in the future by doing more community services to help the really needy and poorer people in your community. The God's rule is to give people something "they can not see". Your are getting a lot of resentment because these people already have money and want to make even more (greedy). But to the people who don't have money they don't see money. This is my opinion, it will be better off for you and the other people if you help those who don't see "money" by using your money. Warren Buffett makes a lot of money and he gives money only to people who do not see "money". You want to give back to community, give to the community what they "can not see" to make yourself happy and healty and life more worthwhile to you and your community!

Cheap prices reduces the cost of investment and lower your losses if something gone haywire. But it definitely is not the way to investment. You want to invest in something that is important to consumers in the future but prices are cheap now. Don't go to night market to buy something you want to prosper or profit from. Buy quality stocks is to buy companies that sell something that is very important to consumers everyday and also in the future for as long as it takes (this is snowballing concept).

Don't look for high-growth stocks, because high-growth is not something that can last forever. Look for something that is necessary now. It will become important only because it is necessary now to the consumers. High-growth stocks, the probability of success is 1 out of 200 companies. This is like buying magnum 4D.

To the author: not necessary long term investment produces better results, this is my past experience, why is your statement about long term investment true or false? If it i true it has to has reasons for making it true or else it definitely is false. Cause and Effect. The effect is the result, I am sure long term investment is not just the only cause for becoming rich when talking about stocks. What do you think Mr. Author?
Everyone said fundamentals of a business---the cash flow, the low debts, the roe, the pe and etc. This is just theory because a lot of company does not have those qualities coming out from nothing. If it is so plain an simple, how come we don't see so many people so rich.
As for emotion control, the only way you are going to have emotion control is to buy only 1 stock for 10 years without looking at the stock market for 10 years. Mr. Author, you probably do not have emotional control yourself, could you please tell all of us, how often do you look at the stock market.
Your article is just so funny and amusing!
As for people who ask you to invest in REITs just because the prices are lower now. Did you ask yourself why the prices are lower now. Because less people are interested in reits now that is why prices are lower or other their other reasons making prices lower now? Why less people interested in something but some people still want to jump in? This puzzles me? The guy never tell people why reits are cheaper now! Are there going to be overbuilding in KL in the next few years and reits becoming less valuable when interest rate rises that are going to affect your reits in the future. Did this guy want you to hold your reits for 200 years? Know what you are doing before you do and see whether this is a good time to do something or not? Don't just do something because the price is cheap. Price cheap is not the fundamental of business investment?

What is the meaning of intrinsic value? Could anyone please tell me! Thanks! Probably only Tong Kooi Ong knows that or he doesn't!

When a company is in trouble, it should at least implement a 5-steps policy to overcome its trouble!
The Goal is to not to avoid the external trouble (too late ) now, but to change yourself (the internal) first with (1) the confident in yourself (you don't need other people's confident) and stop doing things that you yourself are not sure you can succeed or not in the present time. The 5 steps are not so difficult to do:
This is taught by Buddha!

I only can teach you how to go from emptiness (your reaction to yourself) to wisdom (your reaction to other people): this you have to do it yourself.

(1) Get to Know Yourself

(2) Get to know Other people

(3) Change Yourself.

(4) There is no good and bad in this world (give other people and yourself time).

(5) You have to do what is right to get to the right ending (be patient do

the necessary first before get to the important in the future).
How to tackle things that you are not able to do: 3 steps:
The Buddha's most fundamental method:
The most fundamental mistake Buddha say we make is:

(1) Greedy(you),Angry(at other people), Stupidity (your relationship with people).

The mistake is you give yourself a too high expectation, you are tend to expect

a lot too much from other people, you end up being stupid and sink into

continuous depression.

(2) The most fundamental method Buddha suggests is:

Simple (you), Lower( from other people), Stable (find mutual ground or benefits to both parties to work with in the long term).

I think what Buddha means to say: (1) Keep yourself simple to understand (for respecting people), (2) don't expect too much from people by giving them time (for thinking on their behalf in advance to save yourself later on), and (3)do the right thing instead of doing what is good or bad (for short term) for yourself and other people. Or else, you mind end up being (1) greedy, (2)angry, and (3) feeling stupid, like what Buddha said!



Buddha is 3000 years ago, see this same type of things repeats until now, like reincarnation! Usually, (1) we give ourselves to high expectation to complete in short term, (2) we require high expectation from people in short term, and (3) we feel stupid for after doing (1) and (2).




Hope You All Have a Smooth and Happy Ride For This Year

If You Becareful and Don't Be Over Ambitious From The Beginning!

把我寫的東西通通都偷偷的抄下來偷偷的讀不會還要假厲害還反過來對我隨便亂吠講你沒有人性實在是對你這種人太客氣罷了什末人不犯我我不犯人你只是（ＸＸＸＸＸ）陰險小人而已！

Not the fittest, in the same category of service provider, hard to survive in long term, competitions also become fiercer and fiercer every year. The cost to run the business is mediocre, the company is slimer and slimer over time, they need to grow new roots (blood lines), so that the company or the tree can grow bigger. The mistake is they plan for short term and because they don't know what is going to happen in the long term. It is not they didn't plan, it is just that, "they should be planning for short term and long term together". When they are planning for short term they should incorporate the long term perspective into consideration. When they are planning for long term, they should also incorporate short term conditions into studies. You just can't split long term planning and short term planning and do them at two different times based on need and requirement. This is what is causing the company (or all the lion group of companies) to pay huge price for what is happening now. A simple person also know that need and requirement must go in sync, there are not doing this right? What do you think? They did not sell assets but increases their debts also when the present conditions are unfavorable, always pinning of future hopes? Sell assets! Those bring the whole Malaysia financial system down with you? The Lion Group owes the Malaysia banks debts of RM$4.7 (figures from Chinese Newspaper) or something billions. If they go bust, what is going to happen to Malaysia financial system. 再玩會死人的 !! 不過你也跑不掉！！你住馬來西亞！難道你沒有長眼睛嗎！你還在拍手做什莫？白癡還是天真？你自己講給大家聽？

Let us discuss Khee San, I go look at it and tell you what I think of this company later on. Of course, Mr. KCCHONGNZ,probably state LonBIsc and Kheesan as examples for a good reason. The market is short of money, foreigner withdrawing, future interest rate is sure to rise, just waiting for the US to do it! In my personal opinion, he probably thought that it may be good thing to look for something cheap and consumer, well it makes sense because the only thing that is good now is falling oil prices, which is giving a boost to consumer spending, well, people still need to eat biscuits especially when the economy is not so "healthy" to stay "healthy" themselves. I also strongly agree with him, we should look for smaller capital stock that are consumer related. Look at PBA, shot up very fast, can still go further, why? houses increase in Penange and technology companies propering need more water, and water is very cheap to sell, just like biscuits, which is even better, low capital commitment, fast turnover. Looking for value is based on looking for future prospect due to present development (like oil price fall and tech boom). The companies like LonBIsc and Keeshan are not new are a good thing because than we can have the opportunity to gather more information about their capabilities. But the trend to look for cheap and consumer stocks is new (whether interest rate rise or not you must still eat). Also, furniture companies might be a good buy, US real estate thriving, home-depo is reporting good results. It is also quite relevent for this year. What is relevant for this year, the direction is important, not the companies, I believe can maintain this status quote of 買股是為了增加生活情趣, 小賭怡情, 大賭傷身. Sorry for my broken english. If there is anything I express badly, it is not my intention, it is only my English fault.

Mr. KCCHONGNZ,
"人在做天在看",the fundamentals, 這就是一間公司的基本面,我認為你終於寫出投資最好的方法,這是我很久以來讀到的最好的一篇文章,感謝你對投資人不斷不斷的慈悲,不斷不斷的分享你的智慧,祝你在新的一年裡:快樂健康,洋洋得意,恭喜發財!

GST effect! The price has to take a break because of future uncertainty and is less concern about the quality of this company. Rising inflation is good for credit card company actually, less people have cash, that is why they need to apply credit card to make payments to make themselves happy just like what GAB guiness stout is making people more happy that is why the price go up to RM14/=. This is a future benefit company due to rising interest rate and rising inflation rate!

不要碰"黃金"---未來全球的利率是向上攀升的---不會降息!升息是會提高貨幣(現金的)價值,買"黃金"是沒有利息的收入,當然大部分的投資人是會選購有利息收入的產品,所以金價肯定是會下跌的!更何況,通貨膨脹會上升很多,現金流通量會下降,"黃金"不是必需品,現金少的時候去投資"黃金"或"房地產",價格高過收入或好處很多,根本就是自找死路.

CONDENSED STATEMENT OF COMPREHENSIVE INCOME
FOR THE THIRD QUARTER ENDED 20 NOVEMBER 2014
Unaudited

TOTAL ASSETS 4,615,183,000.
Allowance for impairment losses 167,601,000
Profit before taxation 204,020 after deducting operating expenses and finance cost.

The NPL ratio is 167/4615*100=3.61%
The Net Profit ratio by adding back the NPL=371/4615*100=8.03%
This implies that it has a net asset utilization ratio of 4.42%
Total comprehensive income after tax for the period is 142,559,000
The Final Net Profit ratio is 142/4615*100=3.07% (for 9 months)
For a financial institution, I believe Warren Buffett said, as long as the net profit ratio
with respect to the total asset value is more than 1%, this is acceptable!
Even for HL Bank in 2014 annual report:

Net Profit after tax is RM2,102 million for the whole 1 year
Total Assets is RM170.4 billion at the year of financial year
The Final Net Profit Ratio is 2101/170400*100=1.23% (for 1 whole year)

Comparing Aeoncr with HL Bank (with 1.23%), Aeoncr (3.07%) is a better company in terms of profitability!!!!! But nobody is downgrading HL Bank financial standing but Aeoncr, you see
how the world is so unfair sometimes!

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For Aeoncr so far is so good! pe ratio is around 10 at RM$13.50. Non-performing loan provision is 2% and its net profit margin is about 6%. Even if it is going to lose all its non-performing loan, the company will not go bankrupt. Furthermore, Aeon the retailer is expanding its locations in Malaysia which will see this company benefiting in the future years to come. It has no capital commitment and interest rate rise will also be in the company's favor. Right now I don't see so much a problem. I don't think a lot of consumers who use Aeoncr credit cards want to default on payments because it means they are defaulting on their future grocery purchases or daily commuting vehicles (car loans)! So, business for Aeoncr in my opinion is not so bad right now even though the general consumer market in Malaysia maybe affected by gst implementation (but then people still need to eat, buy furnitures, drive a car and so on that is why I am not so concern anyway!).

Fat Cat Tim Buddy: Everyone's culture and upbring are different. Better not "malu" your father and father by saying such things like kan ni ma, macam shit!Don't lower your self-esteem for nothing, it is not worth it!

SOP2:這叫人不可貌相,你一下子寫的東西,深情款款;你一下子又寫的東西,污穢百出;你這樣的文化,你這樣的人格,會不會有一點低俗.

ks55:老弟別人說時間可以改變一切,但是,對你來說真是江山易改本性難移!
過去,你老弟跑去,負債累累的公司(counter),好像LION INDUSTRY,股價從RM5/=跌到RM0.5/=的i3網頁,大談你買股票很成功.你說你過去20年所向無敵,戰績輝煌,你甚至把股票所賺到的現金分成---4分---有些買房子,有些買骨董,有些買雞精,有些才再從新買股票.本人,基於好奇,才問你?你老弟老是出沒在有問題股票的counter,大談自己戰功顯赫,大談自己股票投資如何如何的成功,這又是為何呢?如果你真的是那末有智慧,你又為何還要在流連在有問題股票的counter呢!如果你是在maybank counter上講本人還不會覺得奇怪!所以我才會忍不住提醒你一下,為什莫你到現在還是不能夠明白醒目呢?

To ckwan11d, the only meaning of BS talks are spoken by people who tell you their BS talks! Not all "apek" makes money, a lot of them wasted money on women and alcohol, especially it is not their brain that is growing but their little brothers and bola to talk big. Don't need to be afraid of mad or lunatic people who like to say BS and BS all the time! All his writings on i3 contain the BS or his BS insignia. What a lunatic world his BS mind and BS Balls must be!!! Ha!Ha!Ha!

For this year, I believe it is better to look at small cap stock. Of course, this year consumer stocks are beneficiaries of oil price drop, but if oil price moves up just like what Daim is saying, the trend will reverse, if not stay on. So far, only the hard-to-break habit type of consumer stocks like cigarettes, alcohols, and milk powder companies and credit card companies the prices are moving. Trade at own risk!

KCChong 的作品都是叫大家來做一條魚,叫他家(投資人)都接受他!

KCChong常常被挑战后就像正常人都会做出反应，这是因为不想人们对我们有负面的评判，更加不懂得批判自己。這叫做歪理!道理不是告訴你做人，勝過別人沒有什莫，做人要勝過自己才叫真英雄!不能忍氣吞聲才是狗熊!老是講歪理,老是講一些教課書的道理,聽的人都聽煩了,還要聽他的辯解,你說這是不是氣使人!

老是在用道理批評別人,每个人在不同时期有不同的表现，各人强项有别，不同的投资方式也难分辨强弱,卻不懂得照著道理做事情,做一個清高只會講別人自己不會做的聖人，

凡是有贡献的人才都是社会的宝贵资产，没有必要发生至必须消失的地步。贡献是別人給你的，你所做的任何事情只不過是你做人因該盡的本份而已，不要連自己跟別人的腳色都分不清楚。

KCChong 的作品有不少宝贵的资料值得学习，相信很多读者希望他会继续做出贡献。他寫的東西都是教課書裡面長年累月都已經刊登又刊登過的東西罷了，這叫沽名釣譽。

人生路上常会碰到不如意，障碍，一关又一关的考验走到今天，经过好多的磨练会飞得更高，明天会更好。沒有進步反而在這裡辦清高，沒有人在害他，只有他在害自己，自己障碍自己!

外面是一片美丽的天地等着我们。不到外面去享受美麗的天地，卻在i3做沒有意義的吹噓，這個世界真的很奇怪!

股海無涯,你懂得把波羅密多心經放在股市,你根本就不知道心經的真諦!時間是不會重複的,今天所發生的事情,明天是不會在重復的發生一次的,何必要自欺欺人呢?你要心無罣礙,因為我們都是凡夫,不可能會知道明天會怎樣.只有人的習氣,人的惡習慣,才會不斷不斷的重復!你的預測本益比最低，股息率最佳，預測盈利最佳公司,自欺欺人呢?請你尊重佛法,自己檢點一下,不要把你的股票胡言亂語,告訴別人這是佛法.

"老衲是BOSS Inc. 唯一股東， 所以這是一封給自己的信".老衲,你怎莫這莫不懂得珍惜時間?自己孤身寡人,何必要寫信給自己,還要把他公布出來.老衲,難道你連出家人需要清心寡欲這一點小道理都不懂嗎?

"基於上述各種因素與情況，該行對鋼鐵業持“中和”評級，並對安裕資源的合理目標價定在1令吉，當時給予“賣出”等級。（星洲日報／投資致富‧投資問診‧文：李文龍）"

如果別人建議你賣出持股的時候,我認為這應該是找買點的時候,如果有驚慌拋售股票下跌(下跌>5%),這時可以撿變宜.

本人也在股市一陣子,看到各位對股票的熱誠,深深感動!想跟各位分享一點想法:
前面4種建議不錯,但是第5建議"勿把雞蛋放在一個籃子",要降低風險的實質效率
可能無法達成.我認為我們應該要挑選比較"精進"的股票",寧驗錯過也不要勿濫.
(1)風險通常來至有兩個因素(1)我們不知道我們是平凡的人(2)我們生活在凡間是有約束的.
(2)這兩個約束來至(1)時間(2)環境.
(3)錯誤來至沒有(1)對"時間"規劃(2)對"環境"毫無主見.
(4)我們要避開這樣的公司!
(5)解鈴還須繫鈴人: (1)管理者能力高(2)經營"環境"不受威脅的公司.
下面是巴菲特最近的談話:Warren Buffett's Investing Idea
The goal is always to "Get more for your money than you pay"
(1)Do not listen a lot to what other people say (because nobody is a saint)
(2)Do not buy a stock by thinking that it will go up next week.
(3)For whatever reason that people may give you, you must understand what
you are buying (you must advoid going out and spending what will take you years to earn). Try to buy companies that you are familiar using their products or you are expert in that field. Pick easy targets!
(4)income/pay fair price---based your evaluation on the time (or now) by
paying reasonably based on what you are going to get from income based
on what you know "now".
(5)Look at the productive ability of the assets!
(6)If you always get what your money is worth, you will always do very well!

Well, the(5)and (6)is the same as (5)how can a person as an asset be productive (6)how can a person makes his life worth while. I let you figure out yourself, because you should know yourself and your life better than
anyone else. Happy Chinese New Year!
僅共參考!

NCB has its own work to do right now and MMC also has its own duties to do right now. What is good is for NCB to do well because here we are not the shareholders of MMC. I　ｌｉｋｅ　ｔｈｅ　ｃｏｍｐａｎｙ　ｔｏ　ｋｅｅｐ　ｉｔｓ　ｅｑｕｉｔｙ　ａｔ　４７０　ｍｉｌｌｉｏｎ　ｓｈａｒｅｓ．　Ｗｅ　ａｒｅ　ｎｏｔ　ｐｅｒｕｈ　ｂｅｓａｒ　（ｂｉｇ　ｓｔｏｍａｃｈ）　ＮＣＢ　ｄｏｅｓｎ’ｔ　ｈａｖｅ　ｔｏ　ｅａｔ　ｔｏｏ　ｍａｎｙ　ａｓｓｅｔｓ　ｗｈｉｃｈ　ｉｓ　ｎｏｔ　ｈｅｌｐｆｕｌ　ｔｏ　ｉｍｐｒｏｖｉｎｇ　ｅｆｆｉｃｉｅｎｃｙ．　Ｔｏｏ　ｆａｔ　ａｌｓｏ　ｃａｎ　ｎｏｔ　ｍｏｖｅ　ｖｅｒｙ　ｆａｓｔ　ａｎｄ　ｃｏｎｃｅｎｔｒａｔｅ　ｏｎ　ｐｒｉｍａｒｙ　ａｎｄ　ｍａｊｏｒ　ｔｈｉｎｇｓ．　Ｔｏｏ　ｆａｔ　ｍｅａｎｓ　ｔｏｏ　ｍａｎｙ　ｔｈｉｎｇｓ　ｔｏ　ｄｏ　ｆｏｒ　ｔｈｅ　ｂｏｄｙ　ｏｒ　ｔｈｅ　Ｃｏｍｐａｎｙ！

Can go in or not? There is strength in this stock now, like it is fighting back? I even see a "W" in there now!

Nyalas1955: I don't meant to say anything. I just want to share with you. When Big Drop With Small Volume, especially at first part of trading, it is advisable to sell out? You know small volume means selling pressure is low is my opinion! We are paying so much attention on this stock and still haven't made money yet. Swayed!

This is call bottoming out. It tries to hold on to previous day price but Malaysia is hit again by oil price drop. This is my opinion: It drops from yesterday closing price, but it creates a flat bottom at RM5.70, this is good sign, it is holding at RM5.70/= if the bottom stays the same for most of the whole day.

Nyalas1955 are you caught by surprise now? Everything is a dream don't worry because life is just a dream.

There are a lot of stocks (like CIMB and others ) with huge sudden drops but the volume did not increase. Big drop small volume, wait for rebound, don't be too despair. If the foreigners are selling like hell, there won't be such small volume. We have to wait a few days to see what really is happening! You need to wait to see it before jumping to conclusions. I hope it is not that there are too many bad news on the market: oil slide, currency drop, and etc, that some funds push down the shares so that they can push it up towards the end of the year to declare their profits. Or they deliberately push down the shares to let investors sell out for those who must sell in December. This is not panic selling, because so small volume, this is man made most probably!

I am waiting to buy in. The NTA is RM1.70 per share. Can anyone quote a price that we all should buy in? Keep all the money in bank also is not safe, in case there is a bank run like the stock market now which is so damm lousy!

"Learn something at least if we don't make the money here", isn't this quote familiar to all of us but I haven't heard this quote for a long time. It is too late to sell out now but if you want to sell out don't sell in a panic is my personal opinion. The overall market is very bad, most shares fell today!

kingofong=What is a recession? A recession is when it is hard to make money. So when it is hard to make money=a recession happens for that person. Before we think about recession, we have to think about why it is so hard to make money? Expenses when up, salary didn't increase, debts when up, total spending go up=the reasons that are causing people so hard to make money. The next thing that is going to happen is interest rate and tax go up and money depreciate further. We are in a recession right now. It is not so much what you are exposed to, it is more like spending within what you need and within your limitations. For investment purpose, the direction is to put your money in an area where the demand (people's needs) will be the greatest and in better quality companies to be on the safe side. This is my personal opinion. Please don't blame me for my boring opinion. We should spend the year of goat upgrading ourselves with more knowledge and trading skills to prepare ourselves to be better and smarter in the year of monkey that follows.Then the subsequent year is roaster, which is when we all can go to KFC to have a happy meal together.

deepmarine, stop mentioning things that are not true! This guy is an imposter: Are you out of your mind? The company said previously they wanted to delist the shares by year end. You are telling me 2016 and you expect me to believe you. Are you sick somewhere?

Now we all know who that analyst is? Who predicts that CIMB's business will crash in Indonesia for the next two years. You don't have to admit it really. We already know who that clown is. Calling yourself an apprentice and nicknamed yourself clown.

Christine Lee, I wrote a lot of comments on investing in ICAP. If you have the time, could you please give me some advise and comments. Will you? tq.

When are they going to refund the 0.27 per share. Ｉ　ｎｅｅｄ　ｔｈｅ　ｍｏｎｅｙ　ｆｏｒ　Ｃｈｒｉｓｔｍａｓ　ｓｐｅｎｄｉｎｇ．　Ｃａｎ　ａｎｙｏｎｅ　ｐｌｅａｓｅ　ｔｅｌｌ　ｍｅ？

Nobody knows what is going to happen tomorrow. Oil price is dropping will be a relief for consumers in Indonesia gradually. No doubt what the analyst is saying now is what is happening now. I believe that analyst can not predict whether who his wife is going to sleep with two years from now. Can anyone really tell what is going to happen 1 or 2 years from now? The Indonesia stock market recently is south-east asia top performer and they are writing that the Indo economy will collapse in two years. Why are people always so thinking about themselves only? They never notice what is happening around them but themselves.