Posted by bracoli > 2015-03-04 08:43 | Report Abuse

any rubbish stock to rekomen? kikiki

Posted by AyamTua > 2015-03-04 09:17 | Report Abuse

usually rubbish that keeps on moving.. not the so called safe stock, bank stock la, what la, this la that la.. yaaa expensive and very limited room to grow.... another man rubbish is another man gold.. kikikiki

Posted by chyokh > 2015-03-04 13:19 | Report Abuse

don't look down on rubbish. they can be recycled and repackaged and sold to greedy investors.

Posted by ganasai > 2015-03-04 13:23 | Report Abuse

kikiki, salt fish will wake up one day. Rubbish also got its useful way after recycle.

Posted by MrWealthy4321 > 2015-03-04 13:24 | Report Abuse

ho ho ho ...Frontkn ...UFO stock ...http://ongmali.blogspot.com/2015/03/frontkn-flying-saucer-stock.html

Posted by JeevS > 2015-03-04 18:30 | Report Abuse

Please name me one rubbish stock

Posted by Kevin Wong > 2015-03-04 19:41 | Report Abuse

rats, rots and rubbish are what else but r, r and r...lol!

Posted by weavefinder > 2015-03-04 20:04 | Report Abuse

Basic 101 lesson to identify writer with closed minds. Be thankful that it is rubbish stocks that has created the excitement and trading business for BURSA over the years. So tell me, where is the so call local funds, foreign funds, and whatever funds eh. Dont be a loose canon on things of common knowledge. Look on the bright side.

Posted by growthinvestor > 2015-03-04 21:38 | Report Abuse

penny stock always the most actively trade among retail traders.high gain within short time is possible but high risk is part of total package.to be on safe side,buy warrants of an established company.lower risk of holding junk paper and alternative option for wa holder convert to mother share should a favourable situation arise.this is plan b for wa holder which is not available to penny stock buyer.

Posted by chebicef > 2015-03-05 00:09 | Report Abuse

I reco WINTONI !! hahahah

Posted by The One > 2015-03-05 03:45 | Report Abuse

• Just avoid rubbish stocks laa.. dont be greedy. Its either you make some money if you're lucky or can make you very frustrated causing minds to think that flying down from a 10th floor is fun.. :D

Posted by Kian Leong Lim > 2015-03-05 10:17 | Report Abuse

I know I have a lot of friends on i3 forum that we agree on most things, but in this forum right now, I think I agree with Ong Mali on this one. The logic is if you bury some rubbish into the soil, it will take 50 years to turn into crude oil that are of value, this transformation process takes time. It is not that trash or rubbish are worthless, it just takes too long for your dream to materialize. I believe if you trade with trash or rubbish stocks,your mindset probably should be, (1)you may have to keep the rubbish or trash locked up inside your safe-deposit at home for at least 5 years and(2)under the assumption that you are doing properly by buying the right kind of stocks to keep.

(1) If you are doing short term-it is better to look for good quality stock that has fallen slightly in price temporary. Think for yourself, do less stocks, but better quality ones if you are doing short term.

(2) A sick person and a stronger person, who is going to run faster right now (in short term). It is in the future that we don't know, whether the sick person or the stronger person who is actually going to run faster. But right now, I am pretty sure the stronger person will run faster than the sick person.

(3)I agree with Ong Mali is because if you are doing long-term then buy trash stocks (like steel stocks) but if you are doing short term, please don't go and buy one that you don't know how long the stock is going to live (you don't know what is going to happen in the future).

(4) Don't do bad things for money, there will be retribution in the end.

(5)Everyone gets a fair trial only in the future, not right now! Don't be complacent that you can escape the fair trial in the future. You are not going to plant APPLE AND GET AN ORANGE IN THE FUTURE. TRUST ME, THIS IS A FACT THAT IS VERY TRUE FOR A LONG TIME ALREADY.

Posted by Kian Leong Lim > 2015-03-05 10:36 | Report Abuse

You wait until every one go rush to the penny stock section and all the penny stock do well but the good quality stocks suffers price plunge, then you enter the stock market to buy the good quality stocks. Those people who buy penny stock only makes money for one month only. By buying good quality stocks, you are going to make money every year for as long as you live, isn't it a better choice. Let the other people buy penny stock, you wait for good quality stock to fall in price. They enjoy for one month and you enjoy for the rest of your life by only suffer for one month only, this is a bargain hunting tactics most value investor for enjoying the whole of their life is talking about! One bad seed can not spoilt the whole soup. A lot of people, like one of my friend "A", he likes to characterise his whole life experience from a single incidence or a mistake that happens to him, and make future judgment that affects his own life based on that short term views or just from the experience he gets from one incidence to make decision for a person's fate in the whole life. one bad thing or one good thing can not affect your whole life, you have to consistently doing the right things to win in life is my opinion.

Posted by weavefinder > 2015-03-05 10:47 | Report Abuse

i think this one also another disciple of basic 101.

Posted by Kian Leong Lim > 2015-03-05 10:56 | Report Abuse

You don't have to buy rubbish stock, look at Insas! I hope this is not 101 for you. Life is fair for everyone, it is a matter of choice, live with what you prefer to do. No one has a problem with that, this is what I myself think. If you want to live outside a temple and beg money from people, eat with the gabbash or trash or rubbish go ahead. No body is stopping you is another disciple of basic 101. No need to proclaim you highly level of intelligent to people.

Posted by Kian Leong Lim > 2015-03-05 11:10 | Report Abuse

If you are buying trash stock: Just my opinion.
(1) Even if you buy up all the penny stocks also is no use!
(2) Wait for them to publish results first;
(3) Avoid those that has issued huge amount of shares to the public and has not been listed on the stock market for a long time.
(4) Look at the history of the company first, whether they push the shares before or not. Major shareholders got money or not?
(5) Don't buy one like, Tiger, that never go up at all but the volume go up everyday.

Posted by goldenluck16 > 2015-03-05 13:31 | Report Abuse

Rubbish stocks simply boil down to 3 major reasons. 1. When the company has a rubbish management team 2. When it keeps on losing revenue. 3. When it keeps on asking capital through rights issue and new issues.

Posted by speakup > 2015-03-05 14:10 | Report Abuse

MrWealthy4321, do u consider PMCORP rubbish?

Posted by Kian Leong Lim > 2015-03-05 16:55 | Report Abuse

Mr. speakup, people are not going to change themselves to suit you. Same like you, you are not going to change yourself to suit others, you are not going to change from muslim to chinese to suit the chinese or the chinese to muslim to suit the muslim, are you ever going to do that or that.

When investing, the company whether is PMCORP is rubbish or not is not important. It depends on what PMCORP wants to do for PMCORP, your job is to find out what PMCORP want to do for PMCORP.

If in your opinion, you can determine what PMCORP wants to do for PMCORP, that is when you decide whether you want to be a shareholder of PMCORP.

As investor, you must first out what PMCORP wants to do for PMCORP, and whether the action of PMCORP is going to be good for PMCORP or not.

PMCORP is not going to give you money just like that, whether PMCORO is rubbish or gabbage.

This is my opinion.

Posted by che212 > 2015-03-05 18:41 | Report Abuse

"It doesn't matter whether a cat is white or black, as long as it catches mice."

Who cares if you hate rubbish stocks. Even the blue chips had to start from being 'rubbish'.

Quality or not, money is still money. That is all that matters.

Posted by Kian Leong Lim > 2015-03-05 19:04 | Report Abuse

che212, I totally agree with you, that it doesn't matter whether a cat is white or black, as long as it catches mice. The problem is: not all cat will give you the mice even if the cat is able to catch the mice. What can you do? The cat eat the mice for himself, of course, but it is not going to turn the mice to you? What can you do? Force the director to resign?

Posted by Kian Leong Lim > 2015-03-05 19:16 | Report Abuse

My suggestion:
If you see smart people, stay away, do something else different than the smart people. If you meet a smart people and you hang around with the smart people,like the stock went down but the volume is big, it is like the rat is trying to hang around with the snake, so who wins? This one you need to stay away.

If you see the stupid people, you don't have to stay away, but you have to wait (like the stock went up but the volume is still small ). You have to wait until you are slightly smarter than the stupid people, that is all, before you can do anything with the stupid people. This one you need to wait.

You are not smart or stupid,that is what you are supposed to be thinking, but you just have to be impartial to tell who is stupid and who is smart.
You are not advisable to act when the stock did not do anything, stay impartial on stock that forever do nothing to improve itself. If it is like that always it will always stay like that: why? Because "It doesn't matter whether a cat is white or black, as long as it catches mice." But they are not going to turn the mice to you!

Posted by goldenluck16 > 2015-03-05 19:31 | Report Abuse

Well said, KLLIM...these cats will use the profits to enrich themselves. They won't do something to enhance the future growth of the company nor pay dividends to their shareholders. This what I meant rubbish management team.

Posted by AyamJahat > 2015-03-05 21:34 | Report Abuse

How about GLOTEC 5220 after arrival of FAM JENNY & AYAM TUA?

Posted by Kian Leong Lim > 2015-03-06 06:11 | Report Abuse

Smart people=avoid stocks that are popular momentarily!
Stupid people=look for stocks that are less popular and wait for price increase!
Be neutral==(1)look first, (2)think later---compare with other companies, (3)understand first---find the most competitive company in the sector, (4)wait for good opportunity---market turn sour, (5)before you act---be brave.
To survive and prosper at the same time.
AyamJahat===you have to learn to cherish what you have first, you don't know how to take care of yourself in the first place, that is why you think Jahat to other people is the only way to go (your don't understand yourself basically). Before buying a stock, look not at the price, but the company's contribution whether it is important to people at this moment. This is how company or anyone makes money, by playing roles that other people consider important to them. The answer is not at the balance sheet figures---it all depends on whether what you are doing is important to people or not right now! No free lunch for you and the company!

Posted by che212 > 2015-03-06 06:46 | Report Abuse

First off, being smart doesn't help in the stock market. A PhD holder in economics or finance won't necessarily make a successful investor/trader. I know many people who have great academic pedigrees but just can't take losses and admit they are wrong in predicting the stock market.

Being wrong is not something that this 'successful' or 'intelligent' people are comfortable with because all their life, they strive hard to be right. Otherwise, they wouldn't be able to have good results on the paper exams. The market doesn't give a fuck about your intelligence, your personal life, your socio-economic status. It rewards those who are just right in the market.

Unless you have other definition of being smart or intelligent, I think you are wrong on dividing people into those different camps of intelligence as far as the stock market is concern.

I choose when I want the mice from the cat. If you are thinking the cat is responsible for handling you the mice, you are dead wrong. The sell and buy button is in your hand, not theirs.

Posted by Kevin Wong > 2015-03-06 11:05 | Report Abuse

The 'truly' smart investors don't time, predict nor try to outsmartt mkt. They believe it's not only futile, but also foolhardy to attempt to outmaneuver/out-trade the up and down swings...
They just stay invested at all times in quality, value, growth...stocks.

Posted by Kian Leong Lim > 2015-03-06 19:12 | Report Abuse

che212, you just broke my feelings badly.

Did you read my writing for you, the one above and above?

I hate smart people so I told you not to follow the crowd of smart people chasing after one active stock even when the stock is showing sign of drooping off.

I told you not to abandon stupid people and told you to wait because these are the type of stocks that most people thought they are stupid and less actively traded.

I told you to stay impartial on whether smart or stupid stocks considered by other professional especially those without a PHD degree. There is nothing wrong with having a PHD degree, I am proud of you. Of couse, it takes wisdom everywhere to solve problems. Even the Traffic Jam in KL you need to use wisdom to get passed too many cars before going home.

You get flared up so easily...maybe because you are good at "f" people. But I mean stocks, don't get me wrong, I don't divide people the way people appearing to be dividing among themselves so often. I am scared of you already!

Good Luck and Be Happy Always! Don't "f" too much, and hate people for it after that, learn to enjoy it!

Posted by che212 > 2015-03-07 14:18 | Report Abuse

Kian Leong Lim,

I didn't expect that you were that sensitive. Many investors or traders I know are very very tough emotionally. Otherwise, if the market turns against you, you would be terribly affected by it. I use the 'f' word sparingly. It could express anger, excitement, surprise, and in fact, when I have a good trade, I may use it to show my gratefulness.

Investing in value stocks is a sure way to be in love with your stocks. This method is surely the best in the past. In the present days, market crashes more often than before. The world economy is also getting more and more interrelated. A market crash in Hong Kong, could effectively disrupt other markets in other countries. For this reason, value investing doesn't pay you that much anymore.

Now assuming that value investing works. How long would it take? 5 years? 10 years? Life is too short and the moment when you earn that money, you probably don't even know how to enjoy them anymore. And since you start 5 years ago, the capital money invested is probably too small for you to enjoy them even if the stocks rise because as you grow older, so is the expenses.

However, with trading, you could possibly more money in short period of time. That is why the investors rarely talk about money/risk management, but a successful trader need to make sure they understand them.

Posted by Kevin Wong > 2015-03-07 20:01 | Report Abuse

""Money is made by sitting, not trading.
Gimme time, not timing. Nobody can out-trade market.
Fast come, fast go!""

Posted by calvintaneng > 2015-03-07 20:36 |

Post removed.Why?

Posted by SUMATECRM1 > 2015-04-04 16:02 | Report Abuse

Your Maybank class stocks wont give you returns like IFCA, WINTONI and Priva :)