Jon, your article is very offensive because it suggests that people who espouse quarter to quarter strategy carries an ulterior motive to ensnare the investing public for self-benefit. Despite our different strategies, you may be surprised that actually I find most what you wrote agreeable, and most suited for passive investment, where one gets reasonably good return with minimum effort. Guess what general advice I dispense to people? If you do not have the time to monitor the stocks you buy, or the appetite for adventure, then you should not buy what I buy. You should instead follow KC Chong’s method of low risk steady return, similar to yours.
I’m an engineer by training. I make money by understanding things around me and try to use knowledge as a tool to gain superior returns. At the time of writing, I never fool people into believing things that are untrue. However, because macro environment changes quickly, there’s no telling how long a conducive business environment can last.
Sure I’ve written about stocks that went Holland. In fact, I recently got bitten by my first fraud case in my investment career. But then, I also had AEM that returned 1100% in 2 years. I made a tidy sum from O&G theme in 2012, furniture theme in 2014 as well as technology theme in 2016, all of which lasted at least a year before business environment turned sour. Not only for me, many i3 forumers too made good money employing short term thematic strategy.
Point is, in a high risk high reward quarter to quarter strategy, nobody can accurately predict what will come next. But that doesn’t mean promoters wrote what they wrote with the specific intention of ensnaring the gullible public. A homerun like AEM was achieved based on an understanding of their product and just 1 quarter of good result. Just as AEM was a magnificent call, I also lost money in ND Paper when I was slow to respond to China’s cutting waste paper import quota causing waste paper price to rise substantially. I don't blame other's, I blame myself for being slow to react.
The holier than thou attitude of yours is disgusting. None of us ever claim to be gods of fortune, we just share what we can piece together with whatever information we get to understand the complex world around us, and hopefully in the process make some money from our effort. Sometimes, when forecasts turns out the way we envisioned, the sky rained gold, sometimes, when forecasts turn awry, we get a river of blood. We take higher risks, and we demand higher returns, and most of us work diligently to see the road ahead before it becomes obvious and the stock re-rate.
Ultimately, I agree with your title. In the market, nobody is your friend. If you have no intention of putting in effort, then don’t buy volatile stocks. There’s always Public Bank for the uninitiated and uninterested. But that doesn’t mean those who dabble in them and write about them are evil who is trying to find the next victim. Your article is absolutely offensive and I’ve no intention of wasting any more time replying to you.
>>>Posted by CharlesT > Aug 26, 2018 10:33 AM | Report Abuse
So far for those who tried to make use of i3 for biz...
1.Otb is still the most successful 2.Kc chong ok only 3.CPTeh used to be ok in the beginning but zero result in the last few years 4.Superkoon started as a god n now becomes dog 5.Bones kena SC tangkap
Many many tried their luck here but i dont see them now
Harry did quite well but he doesnt really comes to i3<<<
Some people look short sighted or ignorant. They don’t know when and how to make use of the articles written by sifus. That’s most valuable resources in i3. The articles may or may not relevant at the time of writing but it certainly useful in future when the conditions is rightfully presented as most companies are cyclical in nature.
Posted by cheated_ > Aug 26, 2018 10:35 AM | Report Abuse If HRC(OTB, KYY, Kc all promoted before) cannot reach RM 10(some even said RM 42) how to say promoters are friend?
KC promoted HRC? When, where?
If you got cheated,look at the mirror. That is the one responsible for it.
In the earlier years in i3investor, I wrote some articles on my analysis of companies to share with i3investors readers on the philosophy, methodologies, process of fundamental investing. Never have the intention to promote any stock. What for?
In this few years, I still write a lot of articles, but mostly were educational pieces on fundamental investing. I hardly write about any particular stock, unless I found it heavily promoted with some bad intention and practices such as margin finance to the public, and I didn't see the attraction of the company.
You may say I promote my investment course, which is true, but that is more of a social service to the public.
These are some of the free tips earn me a few bungalow
Icon - Comcorp + sea cucumber/ AA / Supermx / HYC
Paper - Kesm / HYC / Dataprep
OTB - HYC / Lion / Mycon / Masteel
David - HYC
Leoting - Annjoo / Ssteel / Lion and his detail analysis in oil and gas influence me to bet big in Hibiscus
Harry - Frontkn
Kyy - HYC
Posted by Up_down > Aug 26, 2018 12:17 PM | Report Abuse
Some people look short sighted or ignorant. They don’t know when and how to make use of the articles written by sifus. That’s most valuable resources in i3. The articles may or may not relevant at the time of writing but it certainly useful in future when the conditions is rightfully presented as most companies are cyclical in nature.
We see the opportunity for understanding more about the company or industry from the insight of articles. The article may be presented with unwarranted personal opinion or projections. If look from a wider perspective, normally it’s well supported with facts and conditions of the business at that time. I don’t think many would stay in i3 if those articles has vanished. We should appreciate sifus efforts and contributions.
I already got 100k,i just need stable growth of wealth... I will follow u closely haha... If win u get credit, if loss I swallow. I have posted near 10k post in i3 and you should know my character. Hehe...
Ask the writer to shoot more......what good deed he is accumulating for he himself. Do you think he would get immune from what he has written from making a good decision in investing or trading? Lolz
ok,if I got good pick I let u know,u can sailang wif ur 100k to buy a merc or bmw.but not everyday I will sailang,once a blue moon only can do that like my MI.....hehe
Wait for my bungalow completed (now still under construction) then I will do open house and invite all those sifu and I cook Icon most favourite sea cucumber for u all ok
Yes CharlesT sifu...last time koon bee just a char kueh teow chinaapek now my kueh teow stall pass to my worker for free already. With koon bee good fengshui name + all those sifu free tips + i curi curi follow them...really huat like those crazy rich asia.
I curi curi tell u all, recently i also curo curi buy EG curi curi follow Ven sifu tips...i remember last time i curi curi follow Ven sifu JHM also huat. Hopes EG will be like JHM but I only curi buy abit because I dont really like KPK.
no more extremely low PE sector...after the 2008 crisis , have 10 years to recover ....steel the last of mohicans? various sectors have been pushed up and down already, some gets raped so badly, even years later cannot recover.
After the next results, two things can happen......the steel shares gets whacked up to average PEs...or more likely, it becomes obvious earnings are declining and outlook not good.....justifying both the trading prices and the low PEs.....
No, you get nothing guaranteed, beyond a pretty decent understanding of personal finance companies.
Alternatively, that person can go read up on the history of credit cards and personal finance since 1960, a couple books on psychology, and learn how to value financial institutions.
I think that is more worth it than to pay me RM5k. But if you big boss with big position in the company im talking about and lazy read, pay me, i'll tell you and give you a very well balanced and thought out answer
== CharlesT What for selling tips to few waterfish here for rm5k? Can be rich ah? Can buy bungalow ah? Can change yr life ah? 26/08/2018 13:20
Airasia sentiment took how long to whip up? You think just pure fundamentals? Hengyuan sentiment took how long to whip up? You telling me you still holding and waiting for PE10?
Trading that pop, is up to you. Maybe you're an angel and never traded that pop, but most people are not angels. And i doubt you didnt, because i sure would if i did.
==== Icon8888 Don't be a two headed snake. You accused me of pump and dump "Icon8888, he buy already mah. After article, up few %, can trade that pop, easily few k d. If he can whip up the sentiment, easily few hundred k. "
Is Icon8888 a pump and dump or is he not ? Make up your mind, don't speak with both sides of your lips.
You are really getting out of control. See you Baby Jon.
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Posted by soojinhou > 2018-08-26 11:55 | Report Abuse
Jon, your article is very offensive because it suggests that people who espouse quarter to quarter strategy carries an ulterior motive to ensnare the investing public for self-benefit. Despite our different strategies, you may be surprised that actually I find most what you wrote agreeable, and most suited for passive investment, where one gets reasonably good return with minimum effort. Guess what general advice I dispense to people? If you do not have the time to monitor the stocks you buy, or the appetite for adventure, then you should not buy what I buy. You should instead follow KC Chong’s method of low risk steady return, similar to yours.
I’m an engineer by training. I make money by understanding things around me and try to use knowledge as a tool to gain superior returns. At the time of writing, I never fool people into believing things that are untrue. However, because macro environment changes quickly, there’s no telling how long a conducive business environment can last.
Sure I’ve written about stocks that went Holland. In fact, I recently got bitten by my first fraud case in my investment career. But then, I also had AEM that returned 1100% in 2 years. I made a tidy sum from O&G theme in 2012, furniture theme in 2014 as well as technology theme in 2016, all of which lasted at least a year before business environment turned sour. Not only for me, many i3 forumers too made good money employing short term thematic strategy.
Point is, in a high risk high reward quarter to quarter strategy, nobody can accurately predict what will come next. But that doesn’t mean promoters wrote what they wrote with the specific intention of ensnaring the gullible public. A homerun like AEM was achieved based on an understanding of their product and just 1 quarter of good result. Just as AEM was a magnificent call, I also lost money in ND Paper when I was slow to respond to China’s cutting waste paper import quota causing waste paper price to rise substantially. I don't blame other's, I blame myself for being slow to react.
The holier than thou attitude of yours is disgusting. None of us ever claim to be gods of fortune, we just share what we can piece together with whatever information we get to understand the complex world around us, and hopefully in the process make some money from our effort. Sometimes, when forecasts turns out the way we envisioned, the sky rained gold, sometimes, when forecasts turn awry, we get a river of blood. We take higher risks, and we demand higher returns, and most of us work diligently to see the road ahead before it becomes obvious and the stock re-rate.
Ultimately, I agree with your title. In the market, nobody is your friend. If you have no intention of putting in effort, then don’t buy volatile stocks. There’s always Public Bank for the uninitiated and uninterested. But that doesn’t mean those who dabble in them and write about them are evil who is trying to find the next victim. Your article is absolutely offensive and I’ve no intention of wasting any more time replying to you.