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68 comment(s). Last comment by qqq3 2018-09-25 23:49

anticonman

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Posted by anticonman > 2018-09-23 14:23 | Report Abuse

A cheat always a cheat. Why 5 years ago your blogs never said so? Make money from your participants is sure money haha.

qqq3

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Posted by qqq3 > 2018-09-23 14:38 | Report Abuse

whether it works in Bursa is not as important as this....

Knowledge can help you to avoid huge mistakes but knowledge alone is not skill. Skill comes from constant practise, comes from choices and habits. Knowledge without practice is like the guy who reads some investment books and offers himself as stock market sifu. Not much use.

stockraider

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Posted by stockraider > 2018-09-23 14:40 | Report Abuse

KNOWLEDGE IS A SUBSET OF SKILL MAH....!!

Posted by qqq3 > Sep 23, 2018 02:38 PM | Report Abuse

whether it works in Bursa is not as important as this....

Knowledge can help you to avoid huge mistakes but knowledge alone is not skill. Skill comes from constant practise, comes from choices and habits. Knowledge without practice is like the guy who reads some investment books and offers himself as stock market sifu. Not much use.

qqq3

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Posted by qqq3 > 2018-09-23 14:53 | Report Abuse

Knowledge is not discipline

“Only the disciplined ones in life are free. If you are undisciplined, you are a slave to your moods and your passions.” – Eliud Kipchoge


Knowledge vs. Skill

http://awealthofcommonsense.com/2018/09/knowledge-vs-skill/

qqq3

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Posted by qqq3 > 2018-09-23 14:55 | Report Abuse

Knowledge is not discipline


more than that...this raider very lousy in issue after issue.....


some thing wrong with his choices.....


and stock market picks.

stockraider

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Posted by stockraider > 2018-09-23 14:56 | Report Abuse

SKILL IS ACTUALLY PART OF DELIBERATE PERFECTION OF KNOWLEDGE THRU DELIBERATE PRACTICE & HARDWORK MAH....!!

qqq3

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Posted by qqq3 > 2018-09-23 14:59 | Report Abuse

raider...so why your choices always turn out to be bad choices?


if don't examine why, how to improve?

stockraider

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Posted by stockraider > 2018-09-23 15:14 | Report Abuse

my choice ok....mah....i thought i beat u flat on choobee v csc mah ??

Posted by qqq3 > Sep 23, 2018 02:59 PM | Report Abuse

raider...so why your choices always turn out to be bad choices?


if don't examine why, how to improve?

qqq3

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Posted by qqq3 > 2018-09-23 15:18 | Report Abuse

I am confident China knows what to do with running dogs of Trump....like this raider

stockraider

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Posted by stockraider > 2018-09-23 15:19 | Report Abuse

posted by kcchongnz > Sep 7, 2018 03:40 PM | Report Abuse

The case of Optimus the suicide guy........
Author: qqq3 | Publish date: Tue, 3 Apr 2018, 09:53 AM


Wow, I didn't know there was such a thread. Incredible, horrible, unbelievable, distasteful, insane, so mean!

I never know a 60+ "professional" could produce such a story, to drag out a deceased person (RIP) just to smear someone for his own personal agenda, ego and jealously.

Disgusting to the bone!

qqq3

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Posted by qqq3 > 2018-09-23 15:20 | Report Abuse

raider...China will send u to re education camps....like what they do to Jap running dogs in WW2.

qqq3

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stockraider

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Posted by stockraider > 2018-09-23 15:27 | Report Abuse

within short term trump is scoring & winning mah....!!

Open your eye lah....!!

qqq3

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Posted by qqq3 > 2018-09-23 15:30 | Report Abuse

market indices can change....but Law of the jungle will not win.....

Trump choose the wrong victim.

stockraider

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Posted by stockraider > 2018-09-23 15:48 | Report Abuse

History says, no world war 2 will happen, if allies take action against hitler germany much earlier mah....!!

Trump is smart to start early loh.....!!

Posted by qqq3 > Sep 23, 2018 03:30 PM | Report Abuse

market indices can change....but Law of the jungle will not win.....

Trump choose the wrong victim.

qqq3

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Posted by qqq3 > 2018-09-23 16:52 | Report Abuse

who are the value investors? People like this idiotic raider la.......

tecpower

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Posted by tecpower > 2018-09-23 18:33 | Report Abuse

Kobay is next Dufu.

tecpower

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Posted by tecpower > 2018-09-23 18:39 | Report Abuse

Dufu used to be an undervalued stock. It is an example of a success story.

On the other hand, many undervalued stocks will remain undervalued because their net profits do not increase much for a few years.

Posted by Horsefield > 2018-09-23 20:10 | Report Abuse

Good write-up KC.
I don't see why value investing won't work in Bursa (or any other market) as long as the business is generating free cash flow which eventually transformed to growth or paid-out as dividend. It is very logically.

Posted by stock_investor > 2018-09-23 20:26 | Report Abuse

I agree that value investing do works in bursa. But i had been consistenly investing in nasdaq and hkex for past few yrs... what i can say is many stocks in bursa cannot earn money consecutively for few yrs unlike in nasdaq and hkex... u can hold a stock in bursa but until certain extent

3iii

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Posted by 3iii > 2018-09-23 20:37 |

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Posted by Horsefield > 2018-09-23 20:44 | Report Abuse

stock_investor << I agree that value investing do works in bursa. But i had been consistenly investing in nasdaq and hkex for past few yrs... what i can say is many stocks in bursa cannot earn money consecutively for few yrs unlike in nasdaq and hkex... u can hold a stock in bursa but until certain extent
>>

True. Perhaps consumer product stock in Bursa has that quality, like Nestle, DL, or beer business as shown above.

smalltimer

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Posted by smalltimer > 2018-09-23 20:48 | Report Abuse

In bursa, value investing happens when syndicate play.

qqq3

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Posted by qqq3 > 2018-09-24 10:43 | Report Abuse

knowledge is not discipline.
knowledge is not even wisdom.....


no wisdom, Xinuan cash in bank appears great value investor dream stock.

kcchongnz

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Posted by kcchongnz > 2018-09-24 11:32 | Report Abuse

Posted by qqq3 > Sep 24, 2018 10:43 AM | Report Abuse
knowledge is not discipline.
knowledge is not even wisdom.....
no wisdom, Xinuan cash in bank appears great value investor dream stock.

Value investors with knowledge, experience and wisdom can see through that the cash in Xingguan was not real. Certainly it is not the "dream stock" of value investors, but that of BS investors, and the followers of BS investor.

Notice that those BS investor continued to buy and called others not following "stupid"?

kcchongnz

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Posted by kcchongnz > 2018-09-24 11:42 | Report Abuse

Posted by qqq3 > Sep 23, 2018 02:38 PM | Report Abuse
whether it works in Bursa is not as important as this....
Knowledge can help you to avoid huge mistakes but knowledge alone is not skill. Skill comes from constant practise, comes from choices and habits. Knowledge without practice is like the guy who reads some investment books and offers himself as stock market sifu. Not much use.

"Knowledge can help you to avoid huge mistakes", can't disagree with that. Did you know that those value investors with the knowledge of how to read financial statements avoided losing their pants when an idiot with his hidden agenda kept on telling them to sailang and margin Jaks and Sendai when they were selling at RM1.80+ and RM1.30+ respectively a few months ago?

I also agree knowledge without practice is of not much use, but I don't think anybody will disagree with me that it is at least much better than the one without the knowledge of reading financial statements, to understand the business, but only know how to BS and slogan calling, "sailang", "margin" and all that jest.

qqq3

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Posted by qqq3 > 2018-09-24 12:12 | Report Abuse

Posted by qqq3 > Sep 24, 2018 09:25 AM | Report Abuse X

sslee

share market not for you.

AGMs are Games People Play
Forums also another Games People Play
Share market also Games People Play.

U think Warren the Bufalo really do as he says meh?

Warren the Bufalo just play the game better than most.

Posted by qqq3 > Sep 24, 2018 09:44 AM | Report Abuse X

sslee

Warren the Bufalo says don't be a stock picker....go buy Index funds.

Every stock picker in town quotes Wallen the Bufalo....

when u can understand that....u begin to get wisdom....

oh.....and by the way....Knowledge is not wisdom.

kcchongnz

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Posted by kcchongnz > 2018-09-24 12:58 | Report Abuse

Posted by qqq3 > Sep 23, 2018 03:21 PM | Report Abuse
https://klse.i3investor.com/servlets/forum/600152736.jsp
great blog


Wow, I can't get any words to describe you!

qqq3

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Posted by qqq3 > 2018-09-24 13:03 | Report Abuse

kc

if it is murder case.....u wouldn't say, why prosecutors dig up old cases.....why suicide cases cannot dig up old cases?

Alex™

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Posted by Alex™ > 2018-09-24 13:10 | Report Abuse

Lol

Ong_win

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Posted by Ong_win > 2018-09-24 14:12 | Report Abuse

The same things reproduce and reproduce. Recycle and recycle. Better go to school teach form 5 students. They will be very excited

3iii

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Posted by 3iii > 2018-09-24 23:29 | Report Abuse

Your surest way to create wealth in the stock market:

Purchase shares of superior businesses at discount to their fair value and allowing those businesses to compound value over long periods of time.

qqq3

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Posted by qqq3 > 2018-09-25 00:38 |

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qqq3

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Posted by qqq3 > 2018-09-25 00:45 |

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qqq3

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Posted by qqq3 > 2018-09-25 00:49 | Report Abuse

for heavens sake, I was an auditor once....I know the strength and weaknesses of historical figures......ex engineers looking for the magic formulas in the figures to become rich.....lol.......

cheoky

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Posted by cheoky > 2018-09-25 00:54 | Report Abuse

heaven sake, must be a mistake to allow you to pass through as an auditor. u sign out the 1 account?

qqq3

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Posted by qqq3 > 2018-09-25 01:13 | Report Abuse

cheoky...auditors are also business men....but they know...deep in their hearts they know.......

3iii

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Posted by 3iii > 2018-09-25 08:31 |

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Sslee

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Posted by Sslee > 2018-09-25 08:52 | Report Abuse

Dear KCChong.
Posted by qqq3 > Sep 23, 2018 03:21 PM | Report Abuse
Wow, I can't get any words to describe you!
24/09/2018 12:58

Please allow me to describe qqq3:
He is the lowest of the low, the worst of the worst, the most heartless, the most disgusting, deceitful, unkind and utterly distasteful person I had come across. He is void of any human decency, humility and humanity.

He is feeling great and proud now that he has outlasted most of his nemesis by his bullet proof thick skin. His shameless self invincibility is second to none and should outgun the shameless MO1 to shame.

He had perfected his choo-choo-buffology, bodek-logy, bootlicking, king of PLP with his simplicity flattering. Everyone can now look forward to be hoodwinked and blown away by his perfect simplicity bullshit-logy.

In short he is “paranoia” and “schizophrenia” mental derangement with delusions of grandeur, disconnection between intellect, emotions, action and etc.

Thank you

3iii

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Posted by 3iii > 2018-09-25 08:54 | Report Abuse

>>>Posted by qqq3 > Sep 25, 2018 12:38 AM | Report Abuse

kc....

does OTB count as value investor? <<<<



Reviewing his promotion of HY.

Buy at $ 6. TP of $16 or $18.

What do you think of his TP then?

Was the intrinsic value of HY $ 16 then?



What is the market price of HY today?

What is the intrinsic value of HY today?


Just thinking through the above promotions by otb, this is not value investing.

Snake oil salesman does similar promotions regularly.

qqq3

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Posted by qqq3 > 2018-09-25 08:55 | Report Abuse

sslee

like I say, u are weird, ....indeed weird. But stock market not for u.....

smalltimer

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Posted by smalltimer > 2018-09-25 09:11 | Report Abuse

I stopped following when Homeritz, Jaycorp, Luxchem make me loose 22% to 27%. I have yet to recover a singke sen from rm1500 tution fee

OKH8888

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Posted by OKH8888 > 2018-09-25 09:12 | Report Abuse

@sslee, qqq3 talks alot but no substance, he good at condemn and mouth full of shit. Be careful talk to him, you might be infected with the virus.

qqq3

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Posted by qqq3 > 2018-09-25 09:15 | Report Abuse

Posted by smalltimer > Sep 25, 2018 09:11 AM | Report Abuse

I stopped following when Homeritz, Jaycorp, Luxchem make me loose 22% to 27%. I have yet to recover a singke sen from rm1500 tution fee
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don't take it so hard....It is just a phase everybody goes through.

Free world, remember?

qqq3

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Posted by qqq3 > 2018-09-25 09:20 | Report Abuse

OKH

naive and arrogant can also make u a lot of money......at times.

OKH8888

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Posted by OKH8888 > 2018-09-25 09:39 | Report Abuse

qqq3
Your track record proof that your mouth full of shit and cannot be erase.
Double confirm and confirm. The proof is as solid as steel and final conclusion your mouth full of shit. Those mouth full of shit can never be successful whether he is a gambler or an investor. Luck will not be with him.

I better go away, otherwise I will be like shit too

qqq3

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Posted by qqq3 > 2018-09-25 09:46 | Report Abuse

okh


my track record I very happy but none of your business.

Up_down

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Posted by Up_down > 2018-09-25 09:48 | Report Abuse

3i portfolio is really outstanding during bear market. Investors are being risks adversed in the bad times with the priority of capital protection. This is another proven track record for consumer staple business. It won't last for long. Many companies have been badly hit by surging in commodity prices in past 2 years. We are waiting up cycle bottom line in second liners.

qqq3

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Posted by qqq3 > 2018-09-25 09:52 | Report Abuse

naive and arrogant can also make u a lot of money......at times.

I think is a topic by itself, especially in a forum such as this full of retailers, dreamers and people who don't pay attention to management quality and business sense.

Posted by Jonathan Keung > 2018-09-25 10:17 | Report Abuse

tough to find a rare gem that fits everything ( ie. level of margin to recovery stock )

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