KYY was in his own words too greedy and over confident and over exposed in JAKs. Vietnam investment { or any overseas investment takes a longtime to mature and comes with lots of hidden costs } Whether Vietnam, INdonesia or Cambodia ! why the existing shareholders or promoters wants to sell their business to a overseas investor. ?
KYY's involvement with Hengyuan, Lionind, Jaks and Sendai reveals the weaknesses inherent in his golden rule, his business sense and his investing philosophy.
It seems everyone is more interested in knowing what others are doing than trying to understand the business itself i.e making their buy/sell decisions based on another person's buy/sell decision. And automatically assume he understand the business because everyone is talking about power plant, property and construction. And automatically think it is 'safe' to buy after huge fall when he doesn't have a clue what he is doing.
A lot of discussion on Jaks create an illusion of familiarity that gets mistaken as "I know the business of Jaks" after reading a few blog posts about power plants. Volatility movement in the share price creates excitement to seek out profit opportunity, which is justified and reinforce by the familiarity bias and illusion of knowledge that he knows more than others. Throw in the ego of wanting to be right and look smart "Look how daring I am to buy at the dip and make xxx profit." And you create a behaviour of overconfidence that take on immeasurable amount of risk. That is how 99% investors die in the market, of dabbling in things they know very little about, and a total lack of humility.
Haha.... Everybody has to pay for tuition fees. But outcomes are different.
Some pay and learn something, not going to commit same mistake (or less mistake)
Some pay and learn nothing, all tuition fees go to the drain
Some keep on paying and learn very slowly, they believe one day they will become sifu too
Some have graduated and enjoying their golden year right now
Some pay but dead half way, they are having meeting in holland
So which category do you belong to? Ask yourself sincerely. Nobody is going to judge whether you are right or wrong Only to measure how successful you are in this market
Ricky Yeo === A lot of discussion on Jaks create an illusion of familiarity that gets mistaken as "I know the business of Jaks" after reading a few blog posts about power plants. Volatility movement in the share price creates excitement to seek out profit opportunity, which is justified and reinforce by the familiarity bias and illusion of knowledge that he knows more than others. Throw in the ego of wanting to be right and look smart "Look how daring I am to buy at the dip and make xxx profit." And you create a behaviour of overconfidence that take on immeasurable amount of risk. That is how 99% investors die in the market, of dabbling in things they know very little about, and a total lack of humility.
Similar incident happened in HYR forum toward the end of 2017, where every sifu spoke high and low of crack spread/ expected profit growth, sailang and sialang non-stop.
All these sifu now having meeting in holland..........
icon...one more reason to be bullish about Jaks....very well hidden....Jaks suppressed the Vietnam revenue....drastic drop in Vietnam revenue to $ 90 million to $ 60 million to $ 30 million last quarter....at first look, last quarter report look disastrous.
$ 42 million loss from property division $ 56 million profit from construction .Everyone knows Vietnam profit no cash flow.
but only $ 7 million of the $ 56 million is from Vietnam....meaning local construction profit is $ 49 million....I think from Suke.
and $ 20 million from the $ 42 million is LAD.....LAD will end one day.....total LAD todate is $31 million....it is much less than $ 10 million per quarter and this will end one day.....small matter.
On the surface, the results looks disastrous......easy to sell seeing the results.......takes time for people to through and analysis properly...takes time and takes next result which can be enormously good.
to be honest, on first night of results I was extremely bearish....only when I see your work about the drastic drop in Vietnam.....then I think I know the whole story....it is manipulation of accounts.
KYY same...became extremely bearish....on the surface, it is easy to be extremely bearish.
if construction no cash flow and properties loses $ 40 million every quarter sure bankrupt.......lol....
Dear all, I repeat: I derived no pleasure in writing this friction story because Truth is stranger than fiction, but it is because fiction is obliged to stick to possibilities; Truth isn’t. What is truth now?
I humbly accept your criticism and mistrust on me with open minded and humility. I thank you. I was told long ago never wrestle with a pig, you both get dirty and the pig likes it. But as engineer sometime I need to roll up my sleeves and get my hand dirty in order to get things done that the price I prepare to pay.
If anyone interest in what happen to my first visit to Mr. and Ms. Koon you can read the below link: http://chedet.cc/?p=2387#comment-136954 Dear Tun Dr. Mahathir, Good Afternoon. It had been almost 15 hours into year 2017. So for most people how many of yours resolutions had been flushed down the toilet? For me, I had asked forgiveness to all I had wronged or hurt intentionally or unintentionally. I am sorry please forgiven me. From today onward I only make one resolution. To Be A Better Man. I cannot do it alone myself so please; all the people I had met or haven’t yet to met do inspire and help me to become that Better Man for many years to come. I hope to meet more great people in this year. Allow me to tell my first meeting with a great man and his wise wife last year. It was a very pleasure and an honor to be able to met Mr. and Mrs. Koon Yew Yin.------- You can read the full text from the link. Thank you
I wrote to KYY if every time $ 1.80 u call buy, 50 sen call sell, how much money also not enough.....I say I have shares at 50 sen...3 months money, should beat the market...KYY wish me luck.
I wrote to KYY if every time $ 1.80 u call buy, 50 sen call sell, how much money also not enough to lose.....I say I have shares at 50 sen...3 months money, should beat the market...KYY wish me luck.
I have already admitted my expensive Rm 64 million mistake because I was focusing too much on its power plant in Vietnam and ignored its property and contracting businesses.
It can only report losses in the next few years.
Why should you buy when the company cannot report any profit?
Remember Jaks in not the only listed companies that you must buy. There are so many companies with profit growth such as FLB, AWC, Carrimin, MBMR, FPI, GCB, Muda Holdings etc, etc.
Posted by qqq3 > Dec 11, 2018 07:43 PM | Report Abuse
I wrote to KYY if every time $ 1.80 u call buy, 50 sen call sell, how much money also not enough to lose.....I say I have shares at 50 sen...3 months money, should beat the market...KYY wish me luck.
qqq3 so scared to answer me ah...not yr style leh...
Did yr master give u tips to buy curry mee?
A simple yes or no only....like this also no balls to answer meh..aiyo
Jaks $ 1.00 some time in 2019 enough to buy cigarettes already....don't need much ........this will be the only bufalo stock...the rest will come from trading.
"I do not have any more interest in Jaks. Nevertheless, I wish to help investors to make money."
"Remember Jaks in not the only listed companies that you must buy."
KYY said want help investors. He said you must buy Jaks.
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Icon8888 I still very convince it will go up woh
You go read KYY latest article and see
There is a secret there
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I have openly stated that I have already sold all my Jaks shares and my rights to buy the warrants and admitted my Rm 64 million mistake. I do not have any more interest in Jaks. Nevertheless, I wish to help investors to make money.
Just like the last quarter, it reported losses due to interest charges, it is most likely continue to report losses due to interest charges for the huge bank borrowings.
Remember Jaks in not the only listed companies that you must buy. There are so many companies with profit growth such as FLB, AWC, Carrimin, MBMR, FPI, GCB, Muda Holdings etc, etc.
Profit growth prospect is the most powerful catalyst to move share prices. Koon Yew Yin
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