國進民退 is the temporary measure to reduce unemployment rate due to the trade war.more wars coming up including financial war,technological war. CHINA is doing anything to protect the jobs of his people.
@pjseow, trump had earlier repeatedly answered this question, he said he blames past US presidents, who thought that if China has bigger middle class,as people became more well off. the country can become more democratic, as suggested by Deng xiaoping, but this did not materialised, thus he has to reverse US policy , a cold war policy is in place.
falun gong,is just morning exercise, like Taiqi,or dances, help keep people healthy.舔共白痴,want to make an issue out of it, like爪夷文 , worthless ,irrelevent issue.
enning22. Don't trust those fake medias. we should trust GDP data published by CCP. 6% GDP which is far higher than US. China economy is far better than US. 中國貿易戰大打大贏, 中打中贏,小打小贏。lolz
Echo what Deng said about black cat or white cat,a government can create wealth and well beings foydgxddswr its people are good government. It is undeniable that the Chinese government has created wealth for its peoples in the last 40 years. Comparing this government.with the democratically elected government of India, the.Chinese government.has done a much better job in improving the livelihood of its peoples.In my opinion, the peoples of China has more freedom in the choice of properties, food ,travel,leisure,cars,clothing .
what trump said was not wrong, reflecting the fact.that was what exactly happening.chinamen made some money from US consumer market,and now tarrif in place, China faced reccession and massive unemployment.
Enning 22,have you ever wonder why US treat the DEMOCRATICALLY ELECTED government of Iran as ENEMY whereas the US is so FRIENDLY to the totally non democratic governments of Saudi Arabia, Kuwait and UAE? US is silent on these countries lack of human rights and freedom of expressions? Do you know that the hypocritic governments of US and UK orchestrated the removal of democratically elected prime minister of IRAN in 1953 and helped replacing him with the Monarchial prime minister ???
don't be silly ,giving fake account of Iran government was democractically elected, or exact story like saddam hussein , 金三肥 was 99% democractically voted in as president, please for god sake , don't be naive, and stupid. I am not interest to enlighten you, you can believe whatever you like, including the believe that the Iranian Ayahdolla is god himself.Obviously the american and british obviously were not saints, but at least they are more like human and not behave like animals or evil like ghosts.
Dear all, Communism is a proven failed economy system and undeniably China was once a failed state with Mao’s extreme left-wing communism experimentation that starved millions of its people to death. Communism stripped people of human dignity and moral value in self determination and free will in working hard in achieving Maslow's Hierarchy of Needs.
Today China is everything except communism, thanks to Deng’s open economy policy that emphasis on result rather than dogma or doctrine. China has gone a long way to becoming a market – capitalist – economy with a nominally Communist government. It has opened up to foreign investment (much more than, say, India). Its firms compete internationally and invest overseas. Some Chinese entrepreneurs like Jack Ma have global recognition. Day to day economic life operates through markets and farmers have greater ownership rights. There is a sophisticated stock exchange and capital markets with large and highly efficient and competitive State enterprises dominate banking, power, energy, and telecoms, major genuinely private companies (like Huawei, Lenovo, Ali Baba, Tencent and etc) and flourishing small to medium sized private companies. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_largest_Chinese_companies According to the American business magazines Fortune and Forbes, in 2019 Fortune's Global 500 list of the world's largest corporations included 119 Chinese companies, with combined revenues of US$ 8.2 trillion.
http://www.xinhuanet.com/english/2019-10/18/c_138480544.htm Allowing market to play a bigger role in China's economy in the past few decades has led to a "dramatic development" that pulled hundreds of millions of people out of poverty, said World Bank President David Malpass on Thursday, which marks the International Day for the Eradication of Poverty. Since its founding in 1949, the People's Republic of China has lifted more than 800 million people out of poverty, which represent over 70 percent of global poverty reduction. Beijing has also promised to wipe out extreme poverty by 2020, ten years earlier than the deadline set by the United Nations (UN) in its 2030 Agenda for Sustainable Development and its 17 Sustainable Development Goals (SDG).
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-corruption_campaign_under_Xi_Jinping Upon taking office, Xi vowed to crack down on "tigers and flies", that is, high-level officials and local civil servants alike. The campaign 'netted' over 120 high-ranking officials, including about a dozen high-ranking military officers, several senior executives of state-owned companies, and five national leaders. More than 100,000 people have been indicted for corruption. The campaign is part of a much wider drive to clean up malfeasance within party ranks and shore up party unity.
Thank to tough anti corruption campaign by Central Commission for Discipline Inspection (CCDI), China able to cleaned out the corrupt system and a new China emerged with new selfless leaders devotion to duty, complete willingness to dedicate their lives to the causes of nation-building and raising the peoples’ standard of living are now a norm rather than exception. When will new Malaysia going to have incorruptible, nation-building leaders?
Dear all, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chinese_Civil_War Qing dynasty comes to an end in 1911 by people uprising lead by Dr Sun Yat Sen. What follow is period of instability; the Beiyang Government, warlords era, KMT-CPC First United Front and KMT-CPC split and resulting Civil War fought between the Kuomintang (KMT)-led government of the Republic of China (ROC) and the Communist Party of China (CPC) lasting intermittently between 1927 and 1949 with in between second Sino-Japanese war 1937-1945. The Long March (October 1934 – October 1935) was a CPC military retreat from the brink of annihilation by KMT Chiang Kai-shek's troops in their stronghold in Jiangxi province. The Communists, under the eventual command of Mao Zedong and Zhou Enlai, escaped in a circling retreat to the west and north, which reportedly traversed over 9,000 kilometers (5600 miles) over 370 days. The route passed through some of the most difficult terrain of western China by traveling west, then north, to Shaanxi. From countryside CPC able to spread communism ideology against sharp inequalities in society (Landless poor peasant against landlord and poor working class against capitalist) and lead CPC to War of Liberation victory against corrupted KMT- led government of ROC.
On 1 October 1949, Mao Zedong proclaimed the founding of the People's Republic of China with its capital at Beijing. Chiang Kai-shek and approximately two million KMT Nationalist soldiers retreated from mainland China to the island of Taiwan in December. Taiwan ROC and PRC in mainland China both officially claiming to be the legitimate government of all China. No armistice or peace treaty was ever signed, and the debate continues as to whether the civil war has legally end. Is Taiwan unequivocally part of China, a renegade province waiting to be reunited with mainland China or a sovereign state? Note: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_Sino-Japanese_War. The First Sino-Japanese War (25 July 1894 – 17 April 1895) end with Qing China defeat and the Treaty of Shimonoseki was signed on 17 April 1895. The Qing Empire recognized the total independence of Korea and ceded the Liaodong Peninsula, Taiwan and Penghu Islands to Japan "in perpetuity". In 1945, following the end of World War II, the nationalist government of the Republic of China (ROC), led by the Kuomintang (KMT), took control of Taiwan.
Dear all, “From each according to his ability, to each according to his needs” the utopian of Marxist Communism perfect classless society in which all property/land/asset/natural resources/capital is publicly/state owned and each citizen works and is paid according to their abilities and needs. As oppose to capitalism “selfishness and greed is good” where market set price for the sole purpose of profit and those with capital and resource (capitalist/landlord) will become super-rich and those without (working class/landless peasant) become super-poor.
Let’s be honest, the western democratic government is slowly turning into Government of the 1% business elite, by the 1% business elite, for the 1% business elite. A democratic government with unbridled capitalism free market-based approach economy (sometimes described as market fundamentalism or neoliberalism) has given rise to oligopolistic and monopolistic economy where the rich will get richer and poor become poorer.
Dear all, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unequal_treaty China had endured century of humiliation (1849-1949) with unequal treaty forced upon China by foreign power. (Empire of Japan, Russian Empire, British Empire, United State, French Colonial Empire, German Empire, Kingdom of Italy, Austro-Hungarian Empire, Kingdom of Belgium, Kingdom of Spain, Kingdom of Netherlands). China is now an awakening new emerging economic and military super-power. Whether we like it or not, we need to live with this new reality and put our best interest forward by studying and understanding China in order to forge strategic alliance on the back of a Prosper-Thy-Neighbor policy that promotes the concept of shared security and prosperity based on mutual respect, for mutual gain.
this is not a place to discuss political philosophy, this is a place where people discuss "The Ugly Mainland Chinese: CSL, Xingquan and Maxwell", those corporate crooks should or should not be severely dealth with, and punish. CROOKS ALWAYS want to divert people attention, and try to fool people , blurring the Clear ,and Present Danger!
SSLee, Good summary of history of modern China. The world is changing and so its China. The socialist system with Chinese character proposed by Deng seems to work well for China. When Deng proposed and experiment with this system, he is not sure whether it will work . Therefore he has another saying " Crossing the river by touching the stones " which means adjustments are needed along the implementation when faced with obstacles. In Chinese , it is 摸着石头过河.
even this history of China ( above), is a westernised version, not the official version .
the early years 50s, 60s 70s were difficult periods, but they survived the sanctions, the isolations, the poverty, but provided health care to the people, educated their people, held the country together, housing for all, they have to feed their people, over come natural disasters...restored dignity to the people, laid the foundations for future growth, and through it all, grew their economy ...........the organisation skill of the party never failed them....and the organisation skill of the party is still #1 today...............
SSlee, by the way, I think Wu stop paying taxes, blah blah blah, should have fled China and changed name. Make sure you plan properly before you act. 謀定而後動!
I mean now CCP have signed the trade deal blah blah blah, signal major changed in direction. Xi JinPing's only daughter is dating an American, should she get married, that will be significant to world peace.
I) The successor of Xi JinPing has been arrested (for transferring relief fund to his mistress in Hong Kong.) The other successor Hu survived as he announced he doesn't want to be successor due to health problem.
ii) Xi's serving term has been amended to unlimited. (irony, Putin serves so long and now he wants to set up council to rule Russia, reverse of what Xi is doing)
iii) Xi assume the duty of the prime minister, as well as other ministers' work.
Dear all, The Mandate of Heaven is a Chinese political and religious doctrine used since ancient times to justify the rule of the King or Emperor of China. According to this belief, Heaven — which embodies the natural order and will of the universe bestows the mandate on a just ruler of China. If a ruler was overthrown, this was interpreted as an indication that the ruler was unworthy, and had lost the mandate. It was also a common belief that natural disasters such as famine and flood were divine retributions bearing signs of Heaven's displeasure with the ruler, so there would often be revolts following major disasters as the people saw these calamities as signs that the Mandate of Heaven had been withdrawn. Communist party of China is very mindful of this Mandate of Heaven (Just ruler: Ruler or Government who wins the hearts and minds of people will earn Mandate of Heaven to rule China)
I meet with many Mainland Chinese they are supportive of CPC because they value stability and the mark improvement is stand of living and value of living (Better transportation, telecommunication, environment and remarkable reduction in corruption). Thank to advance in ICT with cashless society and CCTV everywhere with face recognition technology, anti corruption campaign by Central Commission for Discipline Inspection (CCDI) can easily catch all the corrupt officials (if they want). Moreover no way you can spend and enjoy your ill-gotten corrupt money without CCDI know about it. Hence many corrupt officials only can enjoy counting and ironing their all gotten corrupt money in their house.
Enning 22, Deng never promised democracy to US or to anybody.He knew that China was not ready for democracy. If he had turned China into democracy,it will be another USSR which will disintegrate and suffered economic meltdown .Today ,the US and western world are no friendier to Russia despite it had become a democracy. Had China become democracy ,it might be like India which is not capable to eradicate the poverty of its peoples. Deng is very clear in his mind. He wanted to emulate Singapore economic success. Before he died,he told his successors to learn from Singapore and do better. Singapore had never changed government .Although Singapore is a capitalist country ,its housing and a few other policies are very socialist in nature and in fact more socialist than China.In my opinion,Singapore HDB should be emulated in Hongkong so that the 20 % poorest can have a decent house to live in. Capitalist system can be ruthless to the disadvantage .A combination of both suit Singapore well and Deng seem to like it and name it socialist with Chinese character which he want China to emulate.
Hahahaha, They even tell me you just need to report any crime and the police is so efficient that before criminal reach his house police already waiting at his house. This is how frighten with the advance ICT and man cannot even visit any brothel without his wife knowing about it. I am sure, I don,t want to be Mainland Chinese.
in China they call it socialism with Chinese characteristics, not capitalism with Chinese characteristics ....Because businessmen and capitalist will never be allowed to control the party............
I do not think making wars to bring regime change is human. Mainland Chinese are free to study overseas, migrate overseas, marry foreigners .... I am sure this is the same "freedom" that the west is singing.
China has earned trillions of dollars from the trade surplus over the past 40 years. It is so good if such massive of USD were kept in China. US would certainly dare not started the trade war. Unfortunately, China elites and millionaires have remitted most of the money and keep in US and Europe. How to fight since US is able to freeze the accounts anytime for investigation purposes? Not much $$$$ so how to fight with capitalism countries? eat grasses?
Extracted: On top of the S$2.70 trillion in liabilities to foreigners captured in official data, mainland Chinese firms have around another S$876.14 billion in debts built up by subsidiaries overseas, according to Bloomberg calculations. About 70% of that debt is guaranteed by entities such as onshore parent companies and their subsidiaries, the data show. The amount of maturing debt will rise in coming quarters, with S$84.92 billion due in the first half of 2020 alone.
China’s debt servicing risks can be underestimated with this part of the debt staying outside the official gauge,” said Ji Tianhe, a strategist at BNP Paribas SA in Beijing, adding that the S$4.18 trillion in foreign-currency reserves is “just enough” to cover the risks.
China is exploiting the most advanced ICT surveying their people. They have implemented a social credit system (SCS) to monitor their folks movement. Low score SCS is not allowed to fly with plane, train....It sounds good in keeping a peaceful society at the expense of talking and disseminating negative news of CCP or leader is strictly prohibited. People are expecting to behave like a ‘Yes’ man.
What have you learnt? Counters with certain characters as major shareholders/ Directors by all means should avoid. They have proven records of self-enrichment, not trustworthy, no integrity, and some to the extend of cheating with both eyes wide open!
Do your home work. List down who are those in BOD that may delay your retirement planning. Find out which one is grossly over promoted right now. They will all exhibit herd behavior tomorrow under coronavirus tsunami.
It doesn't matter who or where they come from. The biggest fraud affecting the Malaysian people is jho low, a Malaysian.
For me, in valuation, I keep a valuation metric that is simple and easy to use that it becomes subconscious. You should use it as well for every deal in life, not only in stocks, but general valuation of a proposal.
How to think like a crook. 1. Appeal to their greed. 2. Appeal to the fear. 3. Hide important info. 4. Make the business as complicated as possible.
For me, making money is usually a very straightforward deal that is easy to understand. So when one of those 4 criteria come up my subconscious gets worried, and if any combination come up or all 4? I just walk away, even if the business might actually be real.
Sometimes you have to just walk away.
The frauds usually have a recurrent theme.
1. Greed: a high assets base ( but low valuation), like buying a BMW for only 10,000. Or a business with 50% growing margins ( in an industry where the average is 15%), or high dividend or 10%, or a billion in cash in bank but entire company value is 200 million. Basically anything that sounds too good to be true.
2. Fear: stock had run up in price, and you fear losing out so chase further. If you don't buy now in the next ten minutes the offer disappears forever. Never be cornered to make immediate decisions. It's ok to make less, and buy in bunches after reading the quarterly report, trade journal, market review, instead of buying everything in one go. It is important to learn the difference between a temporary dip in profits and a permanent dip in profits.
3. Read the fine print. If a company promises 20% a month in gains but doesn't reveal exactly how they do it, stay away. If every company takes 50% deposit to build shoes, then collects the rest before delivery, you have to wonder why xinquan could have sold 3.6 million shoes without collecting full payment. Impairments. Risky deals. How Bernie Madoff could make 10+% growth consistently like clockwork for decades, even through crises and good years.
4. A company that has a lot of subsidiaries, where the accountants themselves get lost in the shuffle. Mark to market accounting, bizarre investments like wework ( long term lease from owner, short term lease to tenants), welife, wegrow which tried to brand everything as a tech company. Things that you don't understand but sounds amazing had nothing to do with making money.
Instead of complaining when you step on shit, it is usually more efficient to avoid stepping on shit in the first place.
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pjseow Remember Transmile and Megan media ? The CEO s were from Malaysia and Singapore. What about ENRON , an American company who cheated on its shareholders life savings? What about the money game companies like JJPTR, MBI,GENEVA etc .These are Malaysian companies. While there are ugly Chinese, there are also ugly Americans and Ugly Malaysians. 19/01/2020 12:25 AM
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pjseow ,THUMPS UP.