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69 comment(s). Last comment by qqq33333333 2020-04-06 17:44

qqq33333333

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Posted by qqq33333333 > 2020-04-06 09:32 | Report Abuse

stock market is not plantation.

stock market is dealing with attitude....plantation is dealing with science.

Posted by Philip ( what you can learn from RJ MITTE ) > 2020-04-06 09:32 | Report Abuse

Same point. So if someone without any degree, PhD or real world experience and no certificate come in tells you that your filtering process is wrong, production can be increased by 25% by doing things his way, you will just nod your head and apply without understanding his background?

Look good luck to you.

You are arguing for the sake of arguing.

I stop now and let you think deeply if your past 3 years results on INSAS and xinquan and hengyuan " value investing" is based on nice articles written by sifu without results, and if you ever wondered if their results is the same as yours.

Sslee

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Posted by Sslee > 2020-04-06 09:41 | Report Abuse

Haha qqq3,
The book is about how to avoid qqq3 pitfalls on Sendai and Jaks when you promote non-stop day and night with super investor Sailang and margin finance also your tips on Karim factor ( Kpower and Scib) when you are promotimg it at new high.

qqq33333333

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Posted by qqq33333333 > 2020-04-06 09:45 | Report Abuse

when all the accountants in the world are struggling with stock market.......


people are selling FA skills to rookies as a way to the promised land..........


a lot of contradictions.

qqq33333333

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Posted by qqq33333333 > 2020-04-06 09:47 | Report Abuse

ss..........

my tips no good meh?

some more free one...........

Sslee

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Posted by Sslee > 2020-04-06 10:21 | Report Abuse

Haha qqq3,
On your free stock tips, Warren Buffett has this to say:
“Honesty is a very expensive gift, Don't expect it from cheap people.” ― Warren Buffett

Mat Cendana

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Posted by Mat Cendana > 2020-04-06 10:32 | Report Abuse

@Sslee 05/04/2020 6:01 PM
---> Don’t be someone who turns people off
The big takeaway here is that if you want to be the person who is successful, who everyone wants to hire, you need to build habits of integrity.<---
+++

Not limited to just being hired (although that's something critical too) but in all other aspects of life too. Without being of "the right character", which definitely includes integrity, one will face various friction and negative events in his life. Relationships - personal and professional - are built, developed and sustained over this.

And the great thing is, it's something all of us can always improve upon. This is through all the seemingly `small and routine' situations and events each day. Including at this website. But this requires some courage for we need to honestly look at ourselves first, and acknowledge our unattractive characteristics. Only then can we start doing something about these.

qqq33333333

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Posted by qqq33333333 > 2020-04-06 10:41 | Report Abuse

Posted by Sslee > Apr 6, 2020 10:21 AM | Report Abuse

Haha qqq3,
On your free stock tips, Warren Buffett has this to say:
“Honesty is a very expensive gift, Don't expect it from cheap people.” ― Warren Buffett
=====



honesty....I very honest one..........

qqq33333333

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Posted by qqq33333333 > 2020-04-06 11:08 | Report Abuse

ss

honesty....I very honest one..........and I got no crystal ball to see into the future of stock prices.............

Sslee

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Posted by Sslee > 2020-04-06 11:12 | Report Abuse

Haha qqq3,
Najib also say honestly he do not know why people want to bank in money into his bank account but anyhow he spend it anyway.

qqq33333333

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Posted by qqq33333333 > 2020-04-06 11:14 | Report Abuse

najib got power at that time.........I where got power?

qqq33333333

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Posted by qqq33333333 > 2020-04-06 11:15 | Report Abuse

stock market.......u think good meh introduce newbies/ rookies into stock market when they are not ready?

Sslee

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Posted by Sslee > 2020-04-06 11:17 | Report Abuse

Haha qqq3,
Please check RM 800 already bank into your account.Gift from PN.

ahbah

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Posted by ahbah > 2020-04-06 12:19 | Report Abuse

SINGAPORE: Record low interest rates are tempting some retail investors in Singapore to load up on debt to buy shares, just as the coronavirus outbreak creates the most volatile markets since the global financial crisis.

Individuals pumped around S$2bil into equities in March, 50% more than the previous month, Singapore Exchange Ltd data showed.

https://klse.i3investor.com/blogs/kianweiaritcles/2020-04-06-story-h1485818118-Singapore_retail_investors_use_cheap_cash_to_load_up_on_stocks.jsp

It looks like Singaporean newbies got infected by FOMO disease now !

FOMO vs covid-19 ... who is the winner ?

qqq33333333

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Posted by qqq33333333 > 2020-04-06 12:23 | Report Abuse

as far as I can see, Malaysia is the most irresponsible................

qqq33333333

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Posted by qqq33333333 > 2020-04-06 12:41 | Report Abuse

its FOMO vs the reality of recession.............


FOMO is driven by Dow and oil futures.............


this is not a buy and hold market......


this is a traders market................

qqq33333333

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Posted by qqq33333333 > 2020-04-06 12:50 | Report Abuse

FOMO can last longer than expected........

I mean....corona is being better understood ...........200,000 deaths in US is a gross exaggeration.........


and oil market, there is hope of supply cuts.

qqq33333333

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Posted by qqq33333333 > 2020-04-06 12:51 | Report Abuse

nothing about price movements is about value investing............every thing is about FOMO.

qqq33333333

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Posted by qqq33333333 > 2020-04-06 12:56 | Report Abuse

money for every citizen...........HK, Sinapore, USA & Malaysia......

but HK and Sinagpore has huge reserves........

other countries focus on more targeted programs..........


as far as I can see, Malaysia is the most irresponsible................

ahbah

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Posted by ahbah > 2020-04-06 13:05 | Report Abuse

I think our Pak Din is doing a good job on Covid-19 n even prayed for us for all Malaysian well being.

He made sure no one is left behind like the Singaporean army actors !

Aseng

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Posted by Aseng > 2020-04-06 13:13 | Report Abuse

DK66 is an honest man
if his calculation is right , then I am lucky
if his calculation is not right , then I am unlucky
whatever it is he is still a good man
and a great man who is willing to with us the best he knows

KCChong and OTB were once a DK66 but later turned into a paid subscription sifu. I believe DK66 will forever remain the greatest sifu in i3

Posted by gohkimhock > Apr 6, 2020 12:46 AM | Report Abuse

@Aseng you got fooled by this Dennis Koh with his dubious imaginary profit calculations.

Aseng

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Posted by Aseng > 2020-04-06 13:15 | Report Abuse

Icon8888 is also another good sifu in i3

Aseng

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Posted by Aseng > 2020-04-06 13:18 | Report Abuse

KYY also not bad
he helps you to make money
but
never help you how to protect you profit

Aseng

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Posted by Aseng > 2020-04-06 13:21 | Report Abuse

Phillip seem very knowledgeable
but I still have not benefited from his writing
i hope he can be a next great sifu in i3

Sslee

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Posted by Sslee > 2020-04-06 13:31 | Report Abuse

Dear Aseng,
How about qqq3?
Thank you

Aseng

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Posted by Aseng > 2020-04-06 13:32 | Report Abuse

who is my sifu now ?

he is Hng33

long term hold 70% ,short term hit and run 30% for a good buy stock like Jaks and ekovest, myeg

Aseng

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Posted by Aseng > 2020-04-06 13:34 | Report Abuse

he is my sifu for cycling in the parks



Posted by Sslee > Apr 6, 2020 1:31 PM | Report Abuse

Dear Aseng,
How about qqq3?
Thank you

Aseng

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Posted by Aseng > 2020-04-06 13:38 | Report Abuse

Sslee is my plantation sifu

he told me 6+ MT FFB/hec/year is not a bad yield, do not need to ask for more

leave the contractors do his work

we happy happy chitchat here

Sslee

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Posted by Sslee > 2020-04-06 13:38 | Report Abuse

Agree with Aseng for giving a very honest answer.

Sslee

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Posted by Sslee > 2020-04-06 13:40 | Report Abuse

Aseng 6+ mt is oil yield not FFB. Your contractors must be cheating on you

Aseng

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Posted by Aseng > 2020-04-06 13:57 | Report Abuse

sifu SSlee,

what is the average yield for FFB /hec/year for a smallholder and a well managed big estate ?

thank you

Aseng

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Posted by Aseng > 2020-04-06 14:02 | Report Abuse

sorry , my calculation is wrong

i should be 25+ MT FFB/hec/year .

am I right ?

Sslee

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Posted by Sslee > 2020-04-06 14:08 | Report Abuse

Dear Aseng,
Yes you are right. But MM doing better.

https://www.musimmas.com/news/blog/no-small-matter
https://www.musimmas.com/news/blog/fruits-of-our-labour
The Central Kalimantan Plantation achieved the highest production per hectare among all Musim Mas Group’s plantations in 2014 – exceeding 7.13 tonnes of CPO per hectare – and is still among the most productive Plantation to date.

Thank you

qqq33333333

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Posted by qqq33333333 > 2020-04-06 14:15 | Report Abuse

plantations.........1-2 months MCO, tree die or not?

qqq33333333

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Posted by qqq33333333 > 2020-04-06 14:17 | Report Abuse

ss.........share market all about trading, about FOMO............what has value investing got to do with bursa?

Aseng

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Posted by Aseng > 2020-04-06 14:17 | Report Abuse

last year my yield is about 30+ MT /Hec/year

that is why I am so free

Sslee

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Posted by Sslee > 2020-04-06 14:23 | Report Abuse

Dear Aseng,
Your yield is very good. You should ask Philip his plantation yield.

Thank you

ahbah

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Posted by ahbah > 2020-04-06 15:22 | Report Abuse

It looks like FOMO disease is spreading around the world now ?

I am worried I will be left behind !

What to do now ?

Posted by Philip ( what you can learn from RJ MITTE ) > 2020-04-06 15:44 | Report Abuse

Wow, you guys must be far better planters than me. But then again you are probably bigger scale so better economies. Our group jointly has 280 acres of land in tawau, so far average yield is around 1.5 ton fresh fruit bunches @ rm380, with the refineries not being nice in buying, when they do buy at all. Payments are usually delayed too.

I wonder if there is any micro boiler compressor systems that I can buy from China to do ffb extractions so I don't need to be cheated by the big players?

Posted by Philip ( what you can learn from RJ MITTE ) > 2020-04-06 15:47 | Report Abuse

What is fomo?

>>>>>

Posted by qqq33333333 > Apr 6, 2020 2:17 PM | Report Abuse

ss.........share market all about trading, about FOMO............what has value investing got to do with bursa?

ahbah

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Posted by ahbah > 2020-04-06 15:48 | Report Abuse

SINGAPORE (April 6): Singapore announced S$5.1 billion ($3.55 billion) in additional economic spending such as wage support, waiver of levies and one-off payments to combat the coronavirus pandemic.

“This is an unprecedented budget for extraordinary times,” Finance Minister Heng Swee Keat told parliament on Monday, just over a week after the city-state unveiled more than $30 billion in new support measures as it braces for its worst recession.

On Friday, Singapore said it will close schools and most workplaces for a month as part of stricter measures to curb a recent jump in coronavirus infections. Singapore has reported a total of 1,309 infections and six deaths from the coronavirus.

Heng said the new measures unveiled in the third budget will increase the total spending on coronavirus relief to S$59.9 bln or 12% of gross domestic product (GDP). He said Singapore will draw an additional S$4 billion from its past reserves to fund the new measures.

“The situation remains highly fluid and uncertain. The government stands ready to provide further support should it become necessary,” Heng said.

Heng said Singapore’s overall budget deficit for financial year 2020 is expected to increase to S$44.3 billion, or 8.9% of GDP.

Ah Heng is going all out war against covid-19 ?

Our Pak Din is going to follow suit this evening at 4 pm TV time ?

qqq33333333

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Posted by qqq33333333 > 2020-04-06 16:24 | Report Abuse

FOMO means fear of missing out

ahbah

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Posted by ahbah > 2020-04-06 16:28 | Report Abuse

Pak Din, I am with U fighting against covid-19.

Kita akan bangkit semula !

Hidup Pak Din !

ahbah

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Posted by ahbah > 2020-04-06 16:34 | Report Abuse

Please practice safety distance everywhere.

Safety distance ... the no. 1 law of good health for all now !

If we break this law, we got to pay with our life as forced by covid-19 !

qqq33333333

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Posted by qqq33333333 > 2020-04-06 17:15 | Report Abuse

FOMO means fear of missing out

its trading power vs investing.......


got people investing one meh?


not scared of biggest recession in a generation?

qqq33333333

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Posted by qqq33333333 > 2020-04-06 17:17 | Report Abuse

what is safe distance also not really known............

qqq33333333

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Posted by qqq33333333 > 2020-04-06 17:19 | Report Abuse

but what I know is tested positive is not a death sentence..........


in Europe, some specialists are saying 1 to 10 % of the people already infected.........but total death is very small number only.

ahbah

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Posted by ahbah > 2020-04-06 17:31 | Report Abuse

Even if the death rate is very small, covid-19 got make the mkt chip

for the rich to buy shares chip n become richer !

Covid-19 is actually very good for the rich people like WB to become

richer !

ahbah

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Posted by ahbah > 2020-04-06 17:43 | Report Abuse

Please read below. Singaporeans oredi got infected with FOMO disease now ! Thanks.

Author: Tan KW | Publish date: Mon, 6 Apr 2020, 11:18 AM

SINGAPORE: Record low interest rates are tempting some retail investors in Singapore to load up on debt to buy shares, just as the coronavirus outbreak creates the most volatile markets since the global financial crisis.

Earlier this year, 31-year-old insurance agent Heng Kai Sheng got advances on three separate credit cards to the tune of S$150,000 (US$105,000).

With the money, he opened a share-financing account at a local bank and pledged the lot as collateral.

He was granted leverage of around 3.5 times, a S$500,000 kitty Heng’s plowing into the stock market.

“As Asians, our parents always tell us ‘don’t borrow money, repay your mortgage as soon as possible’, ” said Heng, whose initial S$170,000 share portfolio now totals about S$135,000. “But money is so cheap.”

According to preliminary data from the Monetary Authority of Singapore, bank financing for stock purchases by retail investors rebounded in February after three consecutive months of declines.

Individuals pumped around S$2bil into equities in March, 50% more than the previous month, Singapore Exchange Ltd data showed.

The increase comes as the nation’s benchmark equity gauge registered its worst quarter since the global financial crisis. The SPDR Straits Times Index ETF, the largest Singapore-listed exchange-traded fund tracking the city-state’s stocks, saw net inflows of about S$247mil in the three months ended March 31, its largest quarterly boost since 2002, Bloomberg-compiled data showed.

“There are probably new and existing investors who aren’t leveraged who would definitely want to take advantage of the sell-off to buy shares, ” said Joel Ng, an analyst at KGI Securities (Singapore) Pte.

There are also some suggestions retail investors may be using their homes as collateral to borrow money.

David Gerald, founder of investor lobby group Securities Investors Association (Singapore), said he was aware that investors “may want to refinance their housing loans” in the low-rate environment to free up cash for equity investments. However, “investors should be cautious not to over-leverage” in volatile markets because they may face margin calls, he added.

Not everyone is joining the party. While share financing by banks rose in February, the amount decreased 11% when compared to a year ago. And according to Ng, margin calls “really intensified” in March, particularly for private-bank clients who were sold leveraged products or who took on debt to buy real-estate investment trusts.

Heng said he had a three- to-five-year horizon for his investments, and maintains he’s doing the math to make sure he can always cover the interest, which ranges from 1.38% to 2.03% on the credit cards.

Some of the shares he bought include Oversea-Chinese Banking Corp, which slumped 21% last quarter, Singapore Telecommunications Ltd, down 25%, and Mapletree Industrial Trust, which declined 6.5%.

Heng knows he’s taking a risk but he’s not too worried.

“For young people like us, even if you fail, you can make up the capital, ” he said. “If you have sufficient earning power, you should take a bit more risk.”

- Bloomberg

qqq33333333

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Posted by qqq33333333 > 2020-04-06 17:44 | Report Abuse

in Europe, some specialists are saying 1 to 10 % of the people already infected...meaning 3 to 30 million people in europe already infected............the vast majority recovers automatically........never got sick..........

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