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calvintaneng

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Posted by calvintaneng > 2022-05-19 22:44 |

Post removed.Why?

emsvsi

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Posted by emsvsi > 2022-05-19 22:50 | Report Abuse

LISTEN SINGAPOREAN THE LAND WITHOUT PALM OIL YOU SHOULD INVEST IN GENTING 3182 NTA=RM8.26 BECAUSE WHATS THE POINT OF MONEY IF THERE IS HYPERINFLATION BETTER TO YOLO ON THE CASINO TABLES GO BIG OR GO HOME OF COURSE THE CASINO ALWAYS WINS BUT SOMETIMES YOU MAY WIN RM5 MIL !

calvintaneng

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Posted by calvintaneng > 2022-05-19 22:58 | Report Abuse

No

In Malaysia they already going to ban cigarette to those youngsters to discourage them from smoking

Being a non halal Casino in Pahang State there is always a danger of closer by Pas if there come into power later

Better don't touch Genting as its future is uncertain located in a wrong locality

Abrahmi

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Posted by Abrahmi > 2022-05-20 06:02 | Report Abuse

Genting is too valuable to close

Posted by StartOfTheBull > 2022-05-20 06:46 | Report Abuse

The political landscape is totally different from 40 years ago. If one follow closely the political developments in Malaysia will surely know the risks. In future the casino would totally transformed into a theme park only.

Sslee

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Posted by Sslee > 2022-05-20 06:58 | Report Abuse

Every manufacturing processing, transportation and heating need energy so where do you get these energy from?

An if EU want to cut off the depandent on Russia NG then what alternative source of energy to replace NG?

Sslee

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Posted by Sslee > 2022-05-20 07:08 | Report Abuse

By the way because of low sulphur standard set by the West on fuel that required refiners to invest in billion to upgrade their facilities causing many old refiners closed shop for good.

Hence today the post covid sudden surge of demand for transportation low sulphur fuel result in refining margin (crack spread) shoot thro the roof.

Sslee

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Posted by Sslee > 2022-05-20 07:15 | Report Abuse

Sanctions of Russia NG, crude oil and fuel export are the reason that cause the price increase.

stockraider

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Posted by stockraider > 2022-05-20 09:07 | Report Abuse

Now can go for indon base plantation CO since ban is lifted loh!

Sslee

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Posted by Sslee > 2022-05-20 09:41 | Report Abuse

Indonesia May-22 CPO Levy USD 375/MT and Export duty USD 200/MT

Posted by OldWiseMan100 > 2022-05-20 10:07 | Report Abuse

calvintaneng

Genting Casino is located in KL side, the theme park is located in Pahang side.

Posted by OldWiseMan100 > 2022-05-20 10:08 | Report Abuse

PAS can close down the theme park if they capture Pahang state, but they cannot close down the Casino which is located in KL side, unless they win the federal by themselves. Lim Goh Tong already talked about this in his book when they decided where to build the casino.

Posted by StartOfTheBull > 2022-05-20 10:17 | Report Abuse

How low is the students geography standard? It is even more unfortunate if someone is a Malaysian. The education system urgently need to be improved, seriously.
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OldWiseMan100

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Posted by OldWiseMan100 > 3 minutes ago | Report Abuse

calvintaneng

Genting Casino is located in KL side, the theme park is located in Pahang side.

Posted by OldWiseMan100 > 2022-05-20 10:40 | Report Abuse

StartOfTheBull

Quote: "Genting Highlands is a hill station city located on the peak of Mount Ulu Kali in Malaysia at 1,800 meters elevation. A large portion of the area is located in the state of Pahang, and another small portion is located in the state of Selangor. It was established by the late Chinese businessman Lim Goh Tong in 1965."

Do you even read? I read the Lim Goh Tong book and in it, he mentioned they purposely build the Casino on Selangor/KL side and the Theme Park on Pahang side.

How low is your IQ? Do you even read books? Or just Facebook?

calvintaneng

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Posted by calvintaneng > 2022-05-20 10:58 | Report Abuse

Why the collapse of world economy can destroy demand for crude oil

Petrol from oil is used more in boom times and vice versa in bad times demand just evaporates

Now in 1985 to 1987 when tin collapsed the entire economy of Spore gone into recession

Cars were given up by owners since they got no job and no income

They just surrendered their cars and repossession car yards were full

calvintaneng

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Posted by calvintaneng > 2022-05-20 11:00 | Report Abuse

In 1997 /8 during the Asian Financial crisis the same

Driving down Bukit Bintang then was just like driving in a deserted country road

Tnb shares collapsed to the low of only Rm2.80

Only palm oil survived and prodpered then

calvintaneng

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Posted by calvintaneng > 2022-05-20 11:03 | Report Abuse

As for Genting it is still located in a majority Muslim nation

More malays and less chinese as future unfolds

Able Chinese migrates and there will be fewer in comparison

So how could a non halal Casino prosper for long?

It is just a matter of time the laws are changed

Posted by darren2021 > 2022-05-20 11:08 | Report Abuse

@OldWiseMan100 thanks for the knowledge...

Posted by StartOfTheBull > 2022-05-20 11:11 | Report Abuse

@oldwiseman100
The book was written 18 years ago. Just go to check out the address of Casino De Genting. Simple.

Posted by StartOfTheBull > 2022-05-20 11:30 | Report Abuse

The casino licence is issued by MoF and is required to be renewed annually and still it needs a premises business license issued by the local authorities.

Posted by StartOfTheBull > 2022-05-20 11:34 | Report Abuse

Perhaps the Google map can help you too. Go to check it out.

Posted by StartOfTheBull > 2022-05-20 11:38 | Report Abuse

There is no way you can use the book to argue with the authorities.

stockraider

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Posted by stockraider > 2022-05-20 11:43 | Report Abuse

I think msia will not do away with Casino....looking at the current weak economic position loh!

twynstar

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Posted by twynstar > 2022-05-20 12:34 | Report Abuse

Oil Prices May Not Drop, Even If There Is A Recession


A recession will surely impact oil demand, but it could just weaken its growth, not lead to an annual decline in global demand.


https://oilprice.com/Energy/Oil-Prices/Oil-Prices-May-Not-Drop-Even-If-There-Is-A-Recession.html

stockraider

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Posted by stockraider > 2022-05-20 12:34 | Report Abuse

Good vibes loh!

Despite indo lift export ban which mean cpo price will fall......but the cpo price still shoot up mah!

BLee

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Posted by BLee > 2022-05-20 15:17 | Report Abuse

Is Palm oil food? I think Palm oil is an ingredient in food preparation; there are other alternatives to Palm oil.

Interesting article of without fuel, no food can be prepared.
https://klse.i3investor.com/blogs/kianweiaritcles/735271.jsp
Extract from the article:
#"Nearby, a long queue had formed in front of a shop selling cooking gas cylinders, the prices of which have soared.
"Only about 200 cylinders were delivered, even though there were about 500 people," said Mohammad Shazly, a part-time chauffeur who said he was standing in the line for the third day to be able to cook food for family of five.
"Without gas, without kerosene oil, we can't do anything," he said. "Last option what? Without food we are going to die. That will happen hundred percent."#

I would not take any side, both are equally important. There are always alternatives, due to human ingenuity, most problems can be solved.

Goldberg

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Posted by Goldberg > 2022-05-20 16:30 | Report Abuse

CPO Price May Have Peaked, Correction Imminent — Public Investment
Author: edgeinvest | Publish date: Fri, 20 May 2022, 4:27 PM

KUALA LUMPUR (May 19): Malaysian crude palm oil (CPO) prices may have peaked as production is seen picking up in Malaysia while demand is expected to be soft in the short term and as Indonesia’s ban on palm oil exports is anticipated to be short-lived, according to Public Investment Bank Bhd on Thursday (May 19).

"A correction for CPO price is imminent. Edible oil prices, which have been soaring since February [2022] due to geopolitical tensions and the recent ban on palm oil exports by Indonesia, could correct by up to 20% if there is no further setback,” Public Investment analyst Chong Hoe Leong wrote in a Thursday note.

Chong thinks the CPO prices have peaked and expects to see correction in the next three to six months.

calvintaneng

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Posted by calvintaneng > 2022-05-20 17:23 | Report Abuse

Palm oil peak or not depends on all the other three oils

Sunflower oil
Now stopped by war

Canola oil
Impacted by drought

Soyoil
Also impacted by drought

If others hold up palm oil CANNOT fall much

Johnzhang

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Posted by Johnzhang > 2022-05-20 18:05 | Report Abuse

Palm oil outlook is good . So is crude oil . Both are the basic necessities in life and not much you can cut . Crude oil fundamentals are the same as palm oil eg ESG/ climate change curtailed new investment, war and sanctions disrupted supply and logistics etc. oil price will stay high for a while benefitting upstream producers. Refinery margin is 3-4 times higher than the average of last 10 years !
I stay invested in palm oil as well as crude oil . The return from both are fantastic and mid term future are equally good .

calvintaneng

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Posted by calvintaneng > 2022-05-20 22:44 | Report Abuse

Differences between palm oil and crude oil

1. Crude oil was formed long ago and now stored in the ground

It can be extracted at will by Saudi Arabia and OPEC nations as they wish anytime to increase production

You CANNOT DO THAT with Palm oil as it has to been planted and production comes by monthly by harvest

calvintaneng

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Posted by calvintaneng > 2022-05-20 22:45 | Report Abuse

These is no real shortfall in Crude oil

In fact during early months of 2020 crude oil prices fell to negative

Food prices cannot fall to nagative like cooking oil

calvintaneng

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Posted by calvintaneng > 2022-05-20 22:49 | Report Abuse

With climate change there is no certainty that every year's planted seeds will turn into crops as World weather now in havoc

Example is severe drought in Canada, Brazil, Paraguay and Argentina wiping out canola and soybean crops

In others like floods and super typhoons hitting heilongjiang the breadbasket of China in year 2020

Example is the Once a century Flood in Sri Muda, Selangor

calvintaneng

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Posted by calvintaneng > 2022-05-20 22:52 | Report Abuse

Crude oil is man controlled as it is abundantly available and extraction can be increased at will

Just like glove glut due to China ramping up production

What man can do with Crude oil extraction and glove production man cannot cause plants to grow as it takes nature to do so

calvintaneng

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Posted by calvintaneng > 2022-05-20 22:56 | Report Abuse

Crude oil boom bust cycles are short whereas soft commodities cycles are long cycles

In ancient Joseph Egypt time there were 7 years famine

Ireland experienced several years of potato failure

Even China experienced terrible famines in late 50s till early 60s killing many millions

Posted by StartOfTheBull > 2022-05-20 23:51 | Report Abuse

Very good writeup, thank you Calvin and Sslee for your sharing
With sanctions imposed on Russia by the West and OPEC refuses to increase production thus causing the oil price surge. However, high fuel prices eventually leads to lower consumption, less people can afford to move around so high oil price cannot last long.
Look at Sri Lanka, no more petrol available but the people can still survive as long as foods are still available.

Posted by StartOfTheBull > 2022-05-21 00:09 | Report Abuse

@Goldberg
Sorry, you miss out a paragraph as below:-
"Nonetheless, Chong said the research house has previously underestimated the extent of the global vegetable oil supply shortage, which resulted in a rally across the commodities. As such, Chong has revised his 2022 CPO price forecast higher from RM4,300 a tonne to RM5,000 a tonne but maintains his 2023’s forecast of RM3,800 a tonne."
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The writer admitted that they previously underestimated the extent of the global vegetable oil supply shortage. How likely they will not underestimate again? Let's wait and see.

calvintaneng

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Posted by calvintaneng > 2022-05-21 00:31 | Report Abuse

you CANNOT take advise from Research houses except only honest Hong Leong research who is telling the truth

we have see so many times since years 2020 and 2021 Research houses kept up telling people that Cpo will fall back to Rm2600 when it already crossed Rm3500

all were proven wrong time after time as cpo prices continue to surge higher and higher to their chagrin

calvintaneng

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Posted by calvintaneng > 2022-05-21 00:33 | Report Abuse

Almost all research houses by virtue of their incessant palm oil call warrants being issued to BET AGAINST PALM OIL that they have to continue PAINT A NEGATIVE PICTURE to DIVERT PEOPLE FROM PALM OIL

calvintaneng

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Posted by calvintaneng > 2022-05-21 00:36 | Report Abuse

At the same time they try to manipulate down palm oil share prices in cahoot with media that kept up NEGATIVE NEWS on palm oil

That is why in Malaysia Media and Research houses constantly divert people away from palm oil shares to irrelevant stuff

Not for long as the real EARNINGS OF PALM OIL CO WILL PROVE THEM WRONG

nuke

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Posted by nuke > 2022-05-21 16:47 | Report Abuse

People will cut back on cooking oil and palm oil products (eg magarine,cakes,biscuits) whose prices have risen subsantially too (demand destruction), so I don't see the bull run continuing for too long. However CPO prices will probably remain elevated for some time. As for crude oil, my guess is that prices will stay up for a while too. Both were/are supply side issues.

Posted by StartOfTheBull > 2022-05-21 16:59 | Report Abuse

Wheat (flour) price rises, rice, corn, barley, soybean, oat, cocoa and many more. What else to eat if also cut back on consumption of palm oil products?

Posted by StartOfTheBull > 2022-05-21 17:07 | Report Abuse

Now air fares are also very expensive. You won't die by not traveling but you will surely die by not eating.

calvintaneng

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Posted by calvintaneng > 2022-05-21 17:13 |

Post removed.Why?

OnTime

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Posted by OnTime > 2022-05-21 17:18 | Report Abuse

lube too

Johnzhang

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Posted by Johnzhang > 2022-05-21 18:14 | Report Abuse

Increasing crude oil production and increasing refining capacity is not so simple and quick as you may think. Serious lack of new investment in exploration and new field over the last few years due to global warning pressure from all fronts couple with aging existing field will see supply to be tight for years. Oil companies are reluctant to step up capex due to the uncertainty of global warning backlash. Same goes with refining.
I am heavily invested in palm oil . I like crude oil too, especially the refining segment. Both pays off very handsomely .

stockraider

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Posted by stockraider > 2022-05-22 08:47 | Report Abuse

Already superbull....talkkook no point mah!
The best time to invest in a good stock...is when it undergoes a temporary setback mah!

It is time to pick Utdplant mah!
Raider ask use lah!...Which plantation co can pays dividend of Rm 1.05 pa leh ?

Correctloh....very good points mah!

Posted by calvintaneng > 10 hours ago | Report Abuse

Note:

Malaysia newspapers and Investment papers should go interview all 42 listed palm oil companies and update their readers as Malaysia is world number two exporter of palm oil

in stead they shout Cpo prices going up next week. Or shout Cpo prices going to go down next week and such other useless information which are totally irrelevant to palm oil investors.

Ffb was Rm300 per ton in bleak times and now Ffb (fresh fruit bunches) have skyrocketed to Rm1500 a ton (up 500%)

so it is just nonsense to say it will drop by few ringgit this week and up a few ringgit next week

As long as Ffb is above Rm1,000 per ton all palm oil co enters Superbull!

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