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25 comment(s). Last comment by Up_again 2022-10-05 11:41

Tobby

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Posted by Tobby > 2022-10-04 14:48 | Report Abuse

Elon Musk not very good in geopolitics! Better stick to his Starship and invasion of Mars!

Sslee

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Posted by Sslee > 2022-10-04 14:57 | Report Abuse

Agreed totally with Elon Musk.

He said he didn’t care if his proposal was unpopular, arguing that he did care “that millions of people may die needlessly for an essentially identical outcome.”

“Russia has >3 times population of Ukraine, so victory for Ukraine is unlikely in total war. If you care about the people of Ukraine, seek peace,” he posted on Twitter.

Up_again

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Posted by Up_again > 2022-10-04 16:05 | Report Abuse

Yeah best to have referendum for Taiwan and Hong Kong too
They can be new countries

Up_again

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Posted by Up_again > 2022-10-04 16:59 | Report Abuse

Well we all should consistently respect the wishes or Crimeans or Taiwanese. Tak kan Crimea you support referendum tapi tak kasi Taiwan

Up_again

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Posted by Up_again > 2022-10-04 17:03 | Report Abuse

So Qqq, you would support Zahid to become the Putin or Xi of malaysia? With full control of army and police plus the courts and media too
Sure bo

Sslee

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Posted by Sslee > 2022-10-04 17:31 | Report Abuse

War is evil, war destroyed everything that take decade or century to build and million of people will be killed. So never start any war but when war already started how to stop a war?

He said he didn’t care if his proposal was unpopular, arguing that he did care “that millions of people may die needlessly for an essentially identical outcome.”

“Russia has >3 times population of Ukraine, so victory for Ukraine is unlikely in total war. If you care about the people of Ukraine, seek peace,” he posted on Twitter.

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Posted by Up_again > 2022-10-04 17:59 | Report Abuse

So you guys telling me China will keep saying peace is best even with foreign troops 200 km away from Beijing? Xi will roll out the red carpets and plead for the negotiation table?
Comical betul

Tobby

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Posted by Tobby > 2022-10-04 19:05 | Report Abuse

Totally agree for referendum on separatist Ukraine province! But to say Russia population is 3 times that of Ukraine and Ukraine will lose this war is incorrect!
You see, ukrainians are highly motivated and war proven dudes! They have been in war for like forever! As for russians, they don't want to be involved in current invasion! That's why you see many russian men running away form Russia right now to avoid been recruited!
During Trump era, Donald tried to bring both Zelensky and Putin to negotiation table! Donald prevented early invasion on Ukraine! Donald tried to tell Germans to be energy independent from Russia!
But you now, EU leaders made fun of Donald and Zelensky thought Donald Trump was a dumbass back then!
Can Ukraine invasion be prevented! Of course it can! Unfortunately, US obligachs want this invasion to happen! US benefited tremendiously!
From supplying old US weapons to Ukraine to provided oil and gas to EU!

Tobby

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Posted by Tobby > 2022-10-04 19:07 | Report Abuse

Anyway, it's strange why Elon Musk issue such statement considering Ukraine are pushing Russia out from separatist provinces at the moment! Why not issue such statement before the invasion!

Tobby

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Posted by Tobby > 2022-10-04 19:09 | Report Abuse

Russia is losing this invasion! War is very expensive hobby! Russia is selling it's oil at 30% discount to India and China! I doubt Russia can afford to continue for long! Russia already lost so many experience soldiers and weapons in Ukraine! Sending civilians now will not make any difference! They will become target practice for ukrainians!

Tobby

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Posted by Tobby > 2022-10-04 19:29 | Report Abuse

Last but not least, remember, we experience 4 years of total peace under Trump administration! The islamic fundamentalists were subdued completely! Fast forward into Biden administration which is barely into it's 2nd year, we are looking at another war in Asia! Yeah, Taiwan will be next and the Democrats are pushing hard for it to happen!

Tobby

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Posted by Tobby > 2022-10-04 19:48 | Report Abuse

Qqq! Trump is a man of peace! He will go into economic war with China not military war!

Tobby

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Posted by Tobby > 2022-10-04 19:49 | Report Abuse

But we won't wait for long! US mid election next month! Democrats will be totaled by then!

Up_again

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Posted by Up_again > 2022-10-04 20:57 | Report Abuse

Why you so sure biden and Putin not working together?

Up_again

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Posted by Up_again > 2022-10-04 21:13 | Report Abuse

Huh, it’s Russia le, a near peer of US.
Apasal cannot win a small country like Ukraine lmao

Anyway, Russia already lost the conventional war 2 months ago
Ukraine will just push to the max and consolidate, everytime Russia retreat they leave behind more arms for the Ukrainians to use
It’s like playing the old 2D games, unlock weapons for a new boss level continuously

Up_again

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Posted by Up_again > 2022-10-04 21:36 | Report Abuse

Huh, apa talking you
There isn’t much fighting from the start in West Ukraine, north Ukraine the Russians got kick in the ass fast
The destruction is all going to be in Donbas, every single home flattened

Tobby

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Posted by Tobby > 2022-10-04 23:39 | Report Abuse

Actually most of the destructions are in separatist provinces! So basically Ukraine is intact! Russia lost! Accept it!

Tobby

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Posted by Tobby > 2022-10-04 23:40 | Report Abuse

UpAgain is talking sense! Putin is making major blunder! Destroy provinces that are pro Russia! In the end, killing pro russians!

Tobby

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Posted by Tobby > 2022-10-05 00:02 | Report Abuse

I am big fan of Elon Musk! But there are some things beyond him! Geopolitics is certainly not his expertise!
You see, at this point, Zelensky wants to eliminate all pro russians in separatist provinces! Zelensky is not your good guy! He is as evil as Putin!
Chances of Ukraine liberating separatist province is there! Eliminating civilians who are pro Russia, an opportunity not to be missed!
Guys, this the dark side of war! Either you are with Ukraine or die! Same with Taiwan!
As for us in Asia, let's hope sanity prevail! Because this Taiwan thingy is real! As for taiwanese, either your migrant now or face the painful reality of war! I doubt we can prevent Taiwan invasion!
As for Ukraine, let's not give a damn about it! It's white thingy!

Tobby

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Posted by Tobby > 2022-10-05 00:41 | Report Abuse

Qqq! True! But Taiwan is under CIA operative! So what comes out from Taiwan is actually coming out from CIA mouth really!

Up_again

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Posted by Up_again > 2022-10-05 06:22 | Report Abuse

Well, Putin entered Ukraine thinking that they will be welcomed with flowers and bread. That’s why in the Ukraine counter offensive, you don’t see a long convoy stuck without petrol. The Russians thought they will be given everything by the civilians
Same for Taiwan, Xi thinks they will be welcomed with open arms too

Sslee

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Posted by Sslee > 2022-10-05 07:05 | Report Abuse

China already said as long as you agree that you are Taiwanese and at the same time a Chinese (One China Principle) then no war but if you say you are Taiwanese and also a Yankee or Japanese then War is inevitable.


So do you think which side will have the will to fight to win the heart, mind and body?

Up_again

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Posted by Up_again > 2022-10-05 08:43 | Report Abuse

China is China and Taiwan is Taiwan lo. Both independent countries. What does Taiwan have to do with japan la

Sslee

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Posted by Sslee > 2022-10-05 10:54 | Report Abuse

qqq3,
know what is the definition of civil war?

Did China Civil War between KMT Republic Of China and CCP People's Republic of China over?

Up_again

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Posted by Up_again > 2022-10-05 11:41 | Report Abuse

I think what I want, you think what you want
No need to compel or force down anyone’s thoughts on anybody
We all agree though major war coming so best to adjust longer term investment decisions

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