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alenac

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Posted by alenac > 2022-10-21 10:49 | Report Abuse

Ukraine is winning the war, not Russia. Ukraine is defending their country, just as Vietnam & Afghanistan were defending their country from the Americans. History has shown that invaders lost most of the time.

beinvested

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Posted by beinvested > 2022-10-21 11:30 | Report Abuse

True.

It is not inexpensive to maintain those lands that were invaded/annexed because Russia need to put the military operation in check for any conflict at those borders.

Nato would "curi-curi" supply and funding Ukraine in the future so to go against Russia.
The contention is that Russia is get the supply of drones from others/Iran, feeding their soldiers with foods from China, drinks/clothes from
Basically, it is not easy to make sure that no one will get certain supplies from an outsider in the event of any war.
There is no war that will be held gently and justly like a badminton match. The innocents will suffer the consequences from the damages.

beinvested

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Posted by beinvested > 2022-10-21 11:59 | Report Abuse

Still I doubt Sunak will be favoured by the British for the next PM.
He can articulate very well the issues that confronting the people.
The issue of race is in question.

China has no such complication because it has never concurred others.
The British brought home the coloured people along with the plunders from overseas.
Now, they have to deal with those consequences such as non white representing them or leading them in the government.

beinvested

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Posted by beinvested > 2022-10-21 12:27 | Report Abuse

There were moments of embarrassment on the part of the Chinese when suffering the defeat from the westerners.
Ports and lands were taken over by all those warmongers from Portuguese, German, Japan and British as well.

By now, China has rebuilt and will continue to build so it will become a strong and prosperous country one for its people. But the political system is communism and it came as convenient as it was more suitable at a time of when the country was in a very depleting condition especially during the civil war.

Communism is not founded/invented in China but in Europe.

Posted by AlsvinChangan > 2022-10-21 12:34 | Report Abuse

MALAYSIA is alot better than CHINA

1 USD to 4.80 MYR is an achievment for puak malaysia

60 years in power B40 growing ever bigger need govt to feed them

Nanti Solat dulu kerja sambong besok

Posted by kingkwong > 2022-10-21 14:19 | Report Abuse

now he is a war battle expert.

Nikmon

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Posted by Nikmon > 2022-10-21 14:26 | Report Abuse

People willing sacrifices Ukraine people life so that can peace can be restored.

This is selfish, ukrain who live under occupied by Russian being kill, rape, torture.

When you ask for peace, please don't forget those Ukraine PEOPLE who live there peachfully before the invasion.

brightsmart

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Posted by brightsmart > 2022-10-21 14:56 | Report Abuse

nik...........its a local thing.

it became a global thing because Americans make it global.

mach10

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Posted by mach10 > 2022-10-21 23:53 | Report Abuse

the US uses Ukraine to weaken Russia . It is never the US's intention to help ukraine to win the war.

brightsmart

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Posted by brightsmart > 2022-10-22 00:16 | Report Abuse

y mach10 > 5 minutes ago | Report Abuse

the US uses Ukraine to weaken Russia . It is never the US's intention to help ukraine to win the war.
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that is 100% true................don't be a su.cker for american human rights and other nonsense America uses to do their geo politics .

icecool

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Posted by icecool > 2022-10-22 10:39 | Report Abuse

what ever happens one thing is for sure this war wont end anytime soon

i3lurker

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Posted by i3lurker > 2022-10-22 15:06 | Report Abuse

no worries !!

Putin is kidnapping Ukraine children and shipping them to Russia.

after "minor reprogramming" these Ukraine child soldiers will be send back to Ukraine to kill their parents.

This is supposed to guarantee that the Ukraine War will continue for millions of years !!!

Income

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Posted by Income > 2022-10-22 16:10 | Report Abuse

Another year of Ukraine war, Ukraine will be like Sahara desert.

Up_again

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Posted by Up_again > 2022-10-22 23:51 | Report Abuse

A russia that is better managed and without too much corruption of army procurement should take just a walk in the park to invade Ukraine. I mean Russia does rank they military equivalent of US and better than China
All the talk about western arms like Himars, but in real numbers not even 30 systems supplied sudah wreak havoc in the Russian plans.
All the tanks and artillery supplied cannot even match the gear left behind by the Russians when they retreat.
I do agree the war won’t end soon cause even the west is surprised by the performance of Russia lmao.

Tobby

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Posted by Tobby > 2022-10-23 00:48 | Report Abuse

UpAgain! Exactly! Grandpa Koon 'Russia will defeat Ukraine' sounds like self propaganda! By now US EU UK know how weak Russia is! Russia for years claim to spend much much more that US and China in term of military advancement! But during initial invasion, even their military trucks caught with China knockoff tires!
And barely 2 dozens of HIMARS already destroy Russia supply chains!
Out of desperation, Russia is attacking civilians using Iran drones! So where are the hype up hypersonic missiles! Can't even produce precision missiles now as Russia totally depend on US high end chips!

Up_again

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Posted by Up_again > 2022-10-23 07:18 | Report Abuse

The sanction Russian foreign reserves and billionaires assets is worth close to usd 400b. That can finance a lot of reconstruction in Ukraine in 3 years time

i3lurker

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Posted by i3lurker > 2022-10-23 12:03 | Report Abuse

Ukraine was a Global Empire with a civilization spanning thousands of years when Moscow was a wasteland.
This will be a long winter and a long war.

BobAxelrod

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Posted by BobAxelrod > 2022-10-23 12:12 |

Post removed.Why?

Up_again

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Posted by Up_again > 2022-10-23 15:36 | Report Abuse

The capital, Kyiv, was established hundreds of years before Moscow, and both Russians and Ukrainians claim it as a birthplace of their modern cultures, religion and language.

Kyiv is one among the oldest cities in Europe and was founded in 482, while Moscow was founded in 1147 by Yuriy Dolgoruky, the son of Volodymyr Monomakh.

Following the 1917 Revolution, four socialist republics were established on the territory of the former empire: the Russian and Transcaucasian Soviet Federated Socialist Republics and the Ukrainian and Belorussian Soviet Socialist Republics. On December 30, 1922, these constituent republics established the U.S.S.R.

Tobby

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Posted by Tobby > 2022-10-23 16:06 | Report Abuse

UpAgain! Non european like us will never understand Ukraine! That's the problem with us here, we thought we know better, we actually are the ignorant ones!

Up_again

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Posted by Up_again > 2022-10-23 16:08 | Report Abuse

It’s like donkeys saying Singapore belongs to Malaysia cause of Johor history and recently Malaysia. What’s signed is signed. Singapore is a country now

i3lurker

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Posted by i3lurker > 2022-10-23 16:47 | Report Abuse

The Battle of Antonov Airport, 24–25 Feb 2022. by Henrey Bradley
Amateur Historian, AdventurerUpvoted by
Jeffrey M. Welch
, M.A. International Relations, California State University, Stanislaus and
A.M. Wilkinson
, M.A. International Relations, University of Sydney (2005)

In the early hours of the 24th of February, a short balding dictator known for selling cheap gas and retro military weapons declared war on Ukraine.

Within mere minutes of Putin's announcement, Russian forces launched cruise missiles, artillery barrages and airstrikes that mercilessly pounded Ukrainian targets.

What followed, would be one of the fiercest battles to have taken place since the Second World War — a clash between the elite combat units of the two largest armies in Europe.

Before sunrise, precision Russian Cruise Missile strikes rocked a key Airport 6 miles north of Kyiv, this sudden unexpected attack was followed at 8 am local time by the thundering noise of approximately 34 Russian Hind gunships flying fast and low to avoid radar, straight towards the strategically valuable Airfield just outside of the capital, aboard the armoured transport helicopters were Russian Airborne paratroopers and Spetsnaz operators.

The massive air assault quickly overwhelmed the militia troops guarding the Airfield, with each of the transport helicopters capable of carrying between 8 and 24 paratroopers, meaning approximately 300 of the finest Russian combat soldiers had landed in the first wave.

Platoons and squads from the 11th and 31st Guards Air Assault Brigades rapidly disbursed around Antonov Airport, assaulting positions and buildings defended by the militia, before seizing control of the sprawling facility and taking up defensive positions.

It looked to all the world like Putin’s forces had successfully seized a major airport within spitting distance of the Ukrainian Capital. The elite Russian Airborne forces merely had to hold long enough for reinforcements to arrive and the fate of Kyiv would be sealed. A strong Russian armoured column raced towards the Airborne forces holding the airport and in the air 18 heavy transport aircraft roared towards Antonov Airport carrying troops and armour.

Meanwhile, the sky above the battlefield was frantically contested by numerous Russian KA-52 attack helicopters and two Russian SU-25 close air support aircraft, which bulled the Ukrainian forces on the ground, that is, until they suddenly came under sustained pressure from multiple Ukrainian Mig-29 fighter jets which fell amongst them like a fox amongst the hens, causing chaos.

An unconfirmed number of Russian transport helicopters were shot down during the first wave, at least one went down on route with all aboard over the Dnipro River, with another 3 being destroyed by stinger missiles around Antonov Airfield.

As the first wave of Russian Airborne infantry fought for control of the strategically important Antonov Airport on the ground, Russian KA-52 attack helicopters rained missiles and hellfire on the Ukrainian infantry positions spread out across the exposed battlefield. The forward Russian airborne soldiers hunted down what outnumbered airport defenders remained within the compound, before wedging a large Ukrainian military truck across the main gate, effectively blocking the gate and offering excellent defensive firing positions, Russia had committed some of its best troops to this one critical battle, they were highly capable and not messing around.

By midday, the Ukrainian military had organised and dispatched the 4th Rapid Reaction Brigade from its barracks nearby, with supporting units including the — 3rd Special Purpose Regiment and the Georgian Legion (a force of ethnic Georgians and international volunteers).

These Ukrainian forces arrived at Antonov Airport with armoured vehicles and so began a series of fierce protracted engagements against the dug-in fanatically disciplined Russian Airborne Forces.

Initially, it seems the Russian paratroopers put up a stiff defence, helped immensely by the entire airport being ringed by a solid 7-foot high concrete wall topped with razor wire, which provided a strong defensive perimeter for the Russian Airborne forces.

Enter a small force of Ukrainian elite assault troops with a critical mission, that could very well decide the fate of their country.

Lt. Anatoliy Kharchenko, Ukrainian Air Assault forces, paratrooper.

Tobby

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Posted by Tobby > 2022-10-23 16:50 | Report Abuse

Posted by Up_again > Oct 23, 2022 4:08 PM | Report Abuse

It’s like donkeys saying Singapore belongs to Malaysia cause of Johor history and recently Malaysia. What’s signed is signed. Singapore is a country now

Answer : Ukraine got it's independence legally! Just like Singapore! What if one day some dictator wants to invade Singapore and the the whole world not to intervene! Singapore has full right to defend itself! Ukraine has full right to defend itself!
But Grandpa Koon doesn't understand this! Try writing 'Malaysia will defeat Singapore' for once! And spin that it's okay to kill million of singaoporeans! It's not okay!
Putin is in the wrong! Period!

i3lurker

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Posted by i3lurker > 2022-10-23 16:51 | Report Abuse

The devilishly handsome rouge led a unit of 48 crack Ukrainian paratroopers in a counterattack on the Russian Airborne Forces, his mission was simple — stop the Russian military from landing the eighteen heavy troop transport planes that were already inbound from neighbouring Belarus.

Lt. Kharchenko and his small elite unit were inserted by helicopter in a field on the far side of the airfield, away from where the main battle raged near the main entrance to the airport and the adjacent highway. As dusk approached and tracer rounds lit up the sky, to the constant crack of light-arms fire, his men breached the perimeter wall and within minutes were engaged by a hidden Russian position.

A brutal firefight ensued against a strong Russian squad armed with machine guns that spat withering fire at his men as they breached the perimeter, severely wounding some and hitting Lt. Kharchenko in the leg. However, his small unit wasn't going to pack up and go home after a little scrap, his men were well-trained and they fought back valiantly — managing to secure a strong position near the runway where their anti-aircraft missiles could demolish the inbound Russian transport planes.

Night had arrived and the tempo of the battle raged on, at the other side of the airport near the main hangers and administration buildings the combat was chaotically intense — infrastructure blazed, aircraft hulls smouldered and all-around bullets cracked and brave men fell.
Russian Airborne Forces were surrounded by the Ukrainian reinforcements that had arrived with heavy armour and artillery support, which began to take its toll on the Russian VDV Paratroopers, who being light infantry struggled to hold the sprawling Airport under the determined counterattacks from all directions and to add insult to injury, they had lost complete control of the airfield to a small unit of Ukrainian Paratroopers armed with anti-air weapons — the Russian Airborne troops started to lose ground as casualties increased.

i3lurker

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Posted by i3lurker > 2022-10-23 16:52 | Report Abuse

Lt. Anatoliy Kharchenko received word that the Russian Il-76 transport planes had been forced to turn back as the airfield had been compromised, there were rumours that one or two of the heavy transports had even been shot down. Kharchenko was ordered to move at all speed to the highway just north of the airfield to intercept an incoming Russian VDV armoured force that had broken through the Ukrainian defences and was racing towards the airfield.

The capable officer, who was himself wounded, ordered a small force of his men including the wounded to hold their position near the runway just in case the enemy tried to land, while he took the rest across country on foot directly to the T1011 motorway that ran alongside the Airport, 2 miles away, this road linked the North of Ukraine with Kyiv.

Somehow Kharchenko managed to reach the highway while carrying his massive balls with a bullet in his leg, he then ordered his men to take up ambush positions on either side of the main road and waited, like a sly wolf in the night.

Before long his small detachment could hear the rumble of heavy armour approaching from the north, the trap was set and the Russian reinforcements were carelessly barreling towards the captured Airport with wild abandon, in a rush to reinforce their Airborne assault forces.

The men under Lt. Kharchenko waited until the armoured column was almost on top of their position, before unleashing a furious storm, machine guns opened fire, a paratrooper wielding an NLAW Anti-tank weapon took out the first tank leading the enemy column. Within no time the road was blocked by burning armoured vehicles and what remained of the Russian VDV armoured column that wasn’t a smouldering wreck, retreated with their tails between their legs.

With all hope of reinforcements arriving in time lost, what remaining holdouts of the first wave of Russian Airborne Forces defending the Airport wisely decided to withdraw under the cover of night, they're reported to have fled into the nearby wooded area, from where they later linked up with the Russian invasion force.

The Russian military had planned to seize this large Airport on the outskirts of the capital in a grand Airborne offensive that would stun the world and overwhelm the Ukrainian military in a matter of hours, had they succeeded to hold the position until the troop transport planes had arrived and linked up with the armoured column, the plan could very well have worked and Kyiv could have been overwhelmed in a matter of days.

Instead, the stiff resistance put up by the Ukrainian military at Antonov Airport and the surrounding suburbs of Kyiv — namely Hostomel and Bucha, changed the course of the war and stalled the entire Russian Northern push for Kyiv.

The next few weeks would see the Russian military machine get bogged down in the area around Hostomel and Bucha, fighting costly battles over the ruined Antonov Airfield — battles that see-sawed backwards and forwards with little to no ground taken and all the while the Ukrainian military mercilessly rained artillery on Russian troop positions, without ever seeming to run out of shells and relentlessly ambushed Russian supply lines.

These battles for the suburbs of Kyiv, cost the Russians dearly, the 331st Guards Parachute Regiment, regarded before the invasion as the finest corps of soldiers in the entire Russian military — were wiped out in the area around Hostomel, the Russian Airborne Forces were squandered to a meatgrinder.

The Battle of Antonov Airport was the fiercest battle of the war so far — it appears to have decided the short term course of the conflict and potentially the very fate of Ukraine.

Russia isn't actually losing just yet, but the above battle is the reason Russia hasn't won yet either.

Up_again

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Posted by Up_again > 2022-10-23 18:06 | Report Abuse

@Tobby, problem is this dictator then do a partial mobilization and if your name crops up
You either choose a 15 year jail term or take up a AK47 and go to another country and get shot at

One wonders what would Grandpa Koon would have said if it’s his grandsons being given this option

i3lurker

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Posted by i3lurker > 2022-10-23 19:22 | Report Abuse

The US believes that the Ukraine Army has a 50% kill rate against Russian soldiers.
of those 150,000 sent by Putin to Ukraine, 75,000 are believed killed

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/19351750/russia-lost-soldiers-ukraine-war-disaster/
AT least 75,000 Russian soldiers have been killed or injured in the Ukraine war disaster, the US has claimed.

In addition to losses among personnel, the Russian army has also lost approximately 2,077 tanks, 4,484 combat armored machines, 1,179 artillery systems, and 3,305 vehicles and fuel tanks in the war

In a devastating blow for Vladimir Putin, it's believed half the number of troops committed to the war by Russia are now casualties.

i3lurker

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Posted by i3lurker > 2022-10-23 19:29 | Report Abuse

US intelligence had been using Facebook postings of crying parents/spouses to count those 75,000 killed.
as such, this figure is very accurate.

Tobby

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Posted by Tobby > 2022-10-23 20:55 | Report Abuse

Posted by Up_again > Oct 23, 2022 6:06 PM | Report Abuse

@Tobby, problem is this dictator then do a partial mobilization and if your name crops up
You either choose a 15 year jail term or take up a AK47 and go to another country and get shot at

One wonders what would Grandpa Koon would have said if it’s his grandsons being given this option

Answer : Grandpa Koon doesn't mind if all his children and grandchildren recruited by Russia to fight devilish Ukraine! Just get 2 weeks military training and parashoot to Ukraine! The moment they land there, gone case! All practice targets!

i3lurker

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Posted by i3lurker > 2022-10-23 22:42 | Report Abuse

not 2 weeks

recruits only got few days training before shipping out to die.

few days later many in several pieces of body and bits of flesh were shipped back in sealed coffins.

What do you expect?
Out of 150,000 invaders only 75,000 survived and Ukraine is a very very huge country.
In most parts, only several hundreds or at best few thousand Russian soldiers were fighting tens of thousands of Ukraine armed forces.

Thats why Russia's only viable strategy now and the future is Remote Killings of civilians, old men, women and children to reduce population by around 20 million Ukrainians killed.
Russia needs to kill off half (20 million) of Ukraine population remotely.

Which Putin implemented immediately with continous cruise missile bombardments.
Expected to continue bombardments non-stop ... ...

Tobby

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Posted by Tobby > 2022-10-23 23:04 | Report Abuse

I3lucker! Yeah, if Ukraine manage to recapture the annexed provinces, then those pro russians better pack up or else turn into canned meat!

i3lurker

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Posted by i3lurker > 2022-10-24 06:32 | Report Abuse

Putin's objective is to bomb this ancient temple to bits and pieces.

https://www.ancient-origins.net/news-history-archaeology/archaeologists-unearth-6000-year-old-temple-ukraine-002238

A massive prehistoric settlement has been uncovered in the Ukraine consisting of a large temple, human-like figurines, and animal remains, which dates back to around 4,000 BCE. According to Live Science , the town once covered an enormous 238 hectares (588 acres) and would have contained more than 1,200 buildings and nearly 50 streets.

Income

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Posted by Income > 2022-10-24 16:51 | Report Abuse

Us gave Comedian plenty of Dollars and Comedian needed to fight Russia. No choice for Comedian, but to obey Us instructions to weaken Russia.
Putin warned Comedian countless times not to attack Crimea, Donbass and etc before Russia attacked Ukraine but Comedian attack that areas regardless of the warning given to him.
Now you painted Comedian is defending Ukraine. Four areas of seizure areas had voted to remain with Russia through referendum.
Now Russia is defending that 4 areas, but Ukraine is attacking that 4 areas. Don’t spin the stories lah.

brightsmart

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Posted by brightsmart > 2022-10-24 16:57 | Report Abuse

if america truly wanted peace, tonite there will be peace in Ukraine.

Income

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Posted by Income > 2022-10-24 17:03 | Report Abuse

Without war, Us gov can’t sell weapons to his Euro allies or Arab allies or Jap, Kor or Taiw allies.
War industry in Us needs constant war in any parts of the world. Please ponder this

Tobby

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Posted by Tobby > 2022-10-24 17:59 | Report Abuse

US is more than happy to see Ukraine turn into wasteland! Then the enlightens will own Ukraine!

i3lurker

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Posted by i3lurker > 2022-10-24 18:01 | Report Abuse

no worries
cruise missiles, nLAWs etc etc have an expiry date of around 4 years
so now all expired products send to Ukraine war theatre and consumed

=> and US today have the freshest missiles just off production line [expired electronic products are less accurate]

Posted by Income > 54 minutes ago | Report Abuse

Without war, Us gov can’t sell weapons to his Euro allies or Arab allies or Jap, Kor or Taiw allies.
War industry in Us needs constant war in any parts of the world. Please ponder this

Tobby

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Posted by Tobby > 2022-10-24 18:02 | Report Abuse

That's what US wants! Sell off expired weapons so the war plants can produce new ones!

i3lurker

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Posted by i3lurker > 2022-10-24 19:00 | Report Abuse

Tip :-
Ukraine had been shooting down Iran underspec Drones by around 20 a day and hundreds had been shot down.
Thats because they fly low so is very easy to spot and shoot down

Ukraine has an estimated 6,000 drones operating daily

Ukraine had seized control of several Russian Artillery Targeting System abandoned by Russian crews who just ran away.

more than 2,200 Russian artillery pieces and thousands of support units had been destroyed

Drones spot targets and Artillery takes over ...

conclusion
Weak low flying Iran Drone with destroyed Artillery and supporting units and or abandoned Artillery Targeting System.
How to win ????

brightsmart

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Posted by brightsmart > 2022-10-24 19:16 | Report Abuse

lurk.................. all wars are a messy business.

brightsmart

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Posted by brightsmart > 2022-10-24 20:00 | Report Abuse

both sides try to win their propaganda wars.

Up_again

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Posted by Up_again > 2022-10-24 20:02 | Report Abuse

South Koreans arms manufacturer won close to usd 10b this year alone, with their top product Krab self-propelled howitzers, having close to 50% world market share. Of course these are the NATO spec 155 mm shells
World wars require industrial scale production so perhaps that’s why some products are specified for certain countries.
Too bad malaysia have bad manufacturing with no R

brightsmart

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Posted by brightsmart > 2022-10-24 20:13 | Report Abuse

Russia rather see Ukraine destroyed than be a puppet of the west..........
America would rather see Ukraine destroyed than fall to Putin...............

bottom line ukraine sure destroyed by the comedian.

Tobby

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Posted by Tobby > 2022-10-24 20:16 | Report Abuse

Bright! Have to agree with you on Ukraine!

brightsmart

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Posted by brightsmart > 2022-10-24 20:34 | Report Abuse

never underestimate the stu.pidity of democracies leaders.

i3lurker

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Posted by i3lurker > 2022-10-25 15:14 | Report Abuse

Wagner Group already recruiting mercenaries for Russia

will be another 20 years ie 2042 before Ukraine needs mercenaries.
Ukraine is now turning away and even deporting volunteers demanding to take part in the War.

Posted by StartOfTheBull > 2022-10-25 16:24 | Report Abuse

The longer the Ukrainian fight on, the more it's citizen suffer, it is very unlikely Russia can afford to lose the war, peace negotiations are the only solution to end the war.

brightsmart

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Posted by brightsmart > 2022-10-25 21:49 | Report Abuse

y StartOfTheBull > 5 hours ago | Report Abuse

The longer the Ukrainian fight on, the more it's citizen suffer, it is very unlikely Russia can afford to lose the war, peace negotiations are the only solution to end the war.
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its obvious its the americans who want wars, forever war.

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