Inari generate FCF, pay dividend to shareholders and at the same time still have cash to invest in PPE, R&D for business expansion and future new business
Genetec business did not generate FCF from their business to pay dividend to shareholders nor cash to invest in PPE, R&D for business expansion and future new business. All their accounting book profit is in trade and other receivables with nothing much to show except Genetec will be RM4.80 and claim Tesla is their customer and self feel good claim Genetec business is for the future and betterment of mankind.
It only take customers to default on payment and impairment of receiviables to turn book profit into loss and that the end of Genetec
In another filing, Serba Dinamik reported a deviation of more than 10% between its audited and unaudited financial results for the 18-month period ended June 30, 2021.
The unaudited financial statement showed a profit after tax of RM758.38 million, as compared to a loss after tax of RM185.37 million in the audited financial statement released on Thursday.
Serba Dinamik said the deviation was due to the impairment of trade receivables made by subsidiaries of the group amounting to RM395 million, which was underprovided during the release of the financial statement.
It added that the deviation was also due to an inventory write-down of RM552.6 million due to the disruption and termination of several projects undertaken by the group.
Has anyone learned any lesson from serbadk when profit after tax of RM758.38 million, turn into loss after tax of RM185.37 million?
Please check your fact on INARI. 5 or 6 years ago I paid for INARI right issue. She is having cash shortage & need to raise cash from shareholder to fund the expansion.
INARI major customer i.e. Customer B is focusing on RF filter. 5G is entering its maturity phase. KC need work hard to get another growth engine for INARI.
I have high respect to KC as a professional CEO. The capital owner, i might not.
I am working with a palm oil company revenue of USD few billion and I had never come across an engineering supplier that ready to supply me an enginnering equipment/plant with no downpayment and part-payment before shipment.
I am not sugesting about having Customer T company seal but a fact if your customer default on payment your company will go bankrupt.
Mr Yun-fat, you may refer with your INARI. Does vendor send in machine to let KC use it in production line without pay a single cent. Equipment vendor say they trust him will pay.
There is a very famous good food, good life company. You also can check with their vendor how the billing work. What is their vendor program? Maybe you can refer to good food, good life CCC on their audited financial account. You can share with us your finding.
You just need to read the Greatec financial report to know how greatec generate FCF. By collecting money before goods deliver to customers. Wherease Genetec not even have contract liabilities in their book.
Customer makes a payment, so the company need to make journal entry by debiting cash RM XX million and credit contract liabilities RM XX million as the goods not yet deliver to customer.
Mr Yun-fat, may I suggest you to check with INARI on how they pay vendor? You should have a word with KC to understand this industry. I check your background in i3investors - you should able to do a channel check with INARI.
Back to GREATECH, do you know who's their major customer? Who's EK Tan target customer? When EK was supplying to Customer L, it is a very prudent move to ask for deposit and cash.
As far as I know, EK is working his way to enter into Customer T supply chain and he will have to agree with Customer T CCC. I am happy when EK can get his hand into T. BY that time, I will have one more investment target. In the meantime, there is no good news yet. It is not easy to supply to Customer T as far as I know. EK have been finding his way.
Very simple, if don't want to trade or invest in Genetec, u can invest in many other counters that always give bonus issues, dividends, and daily business that people need.. If you think Genetec is to gamble, and please don't similar Serba with Genetec. SD has too many scandals and simply has many companies chopped, which shows it's a bloody scam.. But being backed up by a scammer too.. So, trade or invest at your own risk
By the way if your vendor is your neighbor like vitrox then your payment term will be different. But when your customers are in thailand and north amerika then are you ready to ship out your engineering equipments without any payment in hand?
Mr Yun-fat, let settle GREATECH first before you move into VITROX. Vitrox supply to INARI is insignificant.
Previously, you are comparing GREATECH - Customer L vs GENE - Customer T. Please check with EK Tan what will be his payment term when he able supply to Customer T. I know it not happen yet, but the talking is in progress.
I can only say Genetec account look and sound very fishy and fact is it only take customer to default on payment due to and not limit to performance dispute and etc to cause Genetec into bankruptcy.
So are you saying you only got one customerT or all your other customers also you do not required downpayment and part-payment before shipment?
“He is changing the way how battery manufacturing is done,” Shirley Meng told Reuters. “It’s really, really difficult to manufacture at a speed and at scale.” Meng is a University of Chicago professor who previously worked with Maxwell, a battery technology company acquired by Tesla.
The factory equipment for in-house battery manufacturing like this, Musk said, “doesn’t exist. It’s being made.”
Walsh also shared some thoughts on Tesla’s Gigafactory Texas, which he noted was extremely impressive.
“I’ll tell you he’s built an amazing facility there. Ten million square feet. It’s one of the biggest buildings I’ve seen and it’s challenging building. He built it on basically a landfill, so we talked about that. You know, the culture of how he thinks about a company. So we just we touched a lot of different issues.
Rm4.80 is from professional analyst. I have no idea how he work out the number.
When stock price reach RM4.80, GENE market cap should be around MYR 3.2B market cap.
What I am sure is I won't be SELLING GENE with MYR3.2B.
I think MYR 3.2B is way too cheap if we able to deliver as per plan. You can argue - If we fail, it might worth nothing. I believe we will success and help everyone to move to better future.
Give GENE another few years and we will see. I hope we can achieve the plan as presented on the Battery Day. When we have to deliver 10-12 figure order book per year, how much should you price GENE market cap? please enlighten me.
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