Posted by speakup > 2024-01-06 10:28 | Report Abuse

anybody can answer why 1 kuchai = 0.222 sbagan at rm10 ? why shouldn't it be 1 kuchai = 0.555 considering sbagan is only rm4

Posted by speakup > 2024-01-06 10:28 | Report Abuse

ada hanky panky ke?

Posted by CharlesT > 2024-01-06 10:45 | Report Abuse

Bad for left hand but good for right hand

Pick the "right" hand

Posted by rohank71 > 2024-01-06 10:52 | Report Abuse

deal will be aborted. minority shareholders will reject.. why sell asset worth 10 for 4?... all the asset is Great Eastern shares. might as well distribute the GE shares to Kuchai shareholders, why give it to SBagan.

Posted by speakup > 2024-01-06 16:33 | Report Abuse

So don't buy right?

Posted by TheContrarian > 2024-01-07 09:22 | Report Abuse

Buy the "right" hand.

Posted by rohank71 > 2024-01-07 11:26 | Report Abuse

wonder which minority shareholder of Kuchai gonna vote for the deal. major shareholders cant vote. SC and Bursa must investigate the hidden hands. the whole proposal is bad for minorities of Kuchai. the whole Nyalas Group of companies are taking their minorities for a big ride. bad corp governence.

Posted by TheContrarian > 2024-01-07 11:48 | Report Abuse

The objective is to stir interest and give a reason for both SBagan and Kuchai share prices to rise.

Posted by speakup > 2024-01-07 12:32 | Report Abuse

Ok will skip

Posted by TheContrarian > 2024-01-07 15:32 | Report Abuse

Now that both Kuchai and SBagan prices have more or less stabilize if we do the Maths every 5 sen upward or downward movement of SBagan shares should move Kuchai shares by 1 sen in similar direction.

Posted by Albukhary > 2024-01-07 15:52 | Report Abuse

So conclusion, SG Bagan better or Kuchai better?

Personally I feel Sg Bagan is more worth to buy, please correct me if my understanding is wrong.

Posted by TheContrarian > 2024-01-07 19:14 | Report Abuse

@Albukhary, yes, you are correct to say that. SBagan is undervalued (and so are most other counters). Kuchai is presently fully valued based on SBagan's current market price.

Posted by dompeilee > 2024-01-08 10:08 | Report Abuse

Contra players who chased the news mostly FLUSHed out!😊 I increased my stake by 180% in the meantime, which will entitle me to a few lots of SBagan in the next 2 months or longer. I predict it will go back to above $1.70 at the very least in the meantime.

Posted by TheContrarian > 2024-01-08 14:31 | Report Abuse

If SBagan goes to RM4.50, Kuchai's fair value will be RM1.60 ....... if SBagan goes to RM5, Kuchai's fair value will be RM1.70 ....... if SBagan goes to RM10 ....... aah, can or not?

Posted by TheContrarian > 2024-01-08 15:07 | Report Abuse

If SBagan drops to RM3.50, Kuchai's fair value will be RM1.40 ....... pray SBagan doesn't drop.

Posted by dompeilee > 2024-01-08 17:21 | Report Abuse

Even after 41% ⏫ in shares issued, fair value JUST BASED on the Top 2 MOST LIQUID assets of CASH + Great Eastern shares is between $3.66 -$4.50, not even counting:
1. The 2 adjoining ultra-luxurious, ultra-sprawling Victorian-era Mayfair flats valued at over $70 mil{£10,000 rental income per month}
2. The Kelantan freehold plantation lands valued @ $105 mil
3. The freehold S'pore conservation shophouse valued @ $50 mil {S$16,000 rental income per month}
4. The Kajang freehold land valued @ $8 mil.

And this also disregards the S'pore bonds, gold bars & hedge fund stake which I assume to be not too liquid.

Posted by AhPek > 2024-01-08 17:53 | Report Abuse

Prefer they distribute the cash rather than Sg Bagan shares.

Posted by dompeilee > 2024-01-08 17:55 | Report Abuse

81 mil net cash is only 65c per shr. I'd rather get the sister co's shrs which has significant upside potential with its juicy inflation-resistant properties.

Posted by speakup > 2024-01-09 12:51 | Report Abuse

Aduh! Missed the Kuchai boat. Everybody here say no good, speakup no buy

Posted by TheContrarian > 2024-01-11 21:01 | Report Abuse

From the beginning people here say SBagan better than Kuchai, means sell Kuchai to buy SBagan.

Posted by speakup > 2024-01-12 07:42 | Report Abuse

all the sifu sifu say Kuchai no good, speakup no buy then it up up up 😥

Posted by dompeilee > 2024-01-12 08:40 | Report Abuse

I'm certainly not of the those 'sifu' ! Have been buying it for 3 days straight since Jan 3rd because it's good!

To me, buying either is not wrong...Kuchai is just an indirect way to get exposure to SBagan, especially attractive when the former is at a stark discount to the latter. Its Great Eastern holdings (assuming a S$18 valuation) is already almost equal to its current mkt cap, with prospects for a sharp increase since the insurer's implied value is over $30, having gone as high as $32 in early '18, especially with OCBC buying another chunk @ $17 last year to bring its holdings to 89%, a whisker from the takeover threshold.
Ergo, buyers are getting its 81 mil net cash(constantly increasing by about $4 mil a year), valuable S'pore freehold detached shophouse, Semenyih land & assorted bonds & S$ investments almost for free.

Posted by CharlesT > 2024-01-12 09:23 | Report Abuse

Even retxrds also know it's a good deal for SBagan n a bad deal for Kuchai.

SBagan bought asssets of Kuchai by issuing shares at high premium (Basing on NTA RM10), more than 50% than their current share prices.

Posted by CharlesT > 2024-01-12 09:26 | Report Abuse

Go buy SBagan directly io Kuchai to get the 0.22 SBagan (valued at NTA RM10).

Now I know why there are so many poor retaxds in Bursa...

Posted by CharlesT > 2024-01-12 09:28 | Report Abuse

Posted by speakup > 1 hour ago | Report Abuse

all the sifu sifu say Kuchai no good, speakup no buy then it up up up 😥

I m not sure u pretended to be stupxd or U are just plain stupxd, despite staying in I3 n stock mkt for years

Posted by CharlesT > 2024-01-12 09:42 | Report Abuse

Anyway both are illiquid Co controlled by kiamsiap Boss paying peanut div...

Can see their good assets cannot eat while Boss happily earning their director fees every year

If want can buy few lots or few K shares like somebody n keep for 5 years or 10 years...once they goreng up can come to I3 to shout n show off u make few hundreds or few thousands very panlai very smart.....lol

Posted by dompeilee > 2024-01-12 17:18 | Report Abuse

BEAUTIFUL week-end for both Kuchai & SBagan, close to week highs !!! Next week 95% probability of breaching $1.60 & $4.60 respectively!!!🤗😘🤗

Posted by speakup > 2024-01-12 19:52 | Report Abuse

Terasa sedih Charles ni panggilku bodoh

Posted by TheContrarian > 2024-01-13 10:17 | Report Abuse

@speakup, don't ever stop speaking up. Next week we go cheer, cheer Insas.

Posted by speakup > 2024-01-14 20:59 | Report Abuse

why is Kuchai in Financial sektor, not Plantation sektor?

Posted by ACE9696 > 2024-01-15 09:43 | Report Abuse

TP sbgan 10. TP kuchai 3.5-4.0

Posted by dompeilee > 2024-01-15 10:03 | Report Abuse

dompeilee

BEAUTIFUL week-end for both Kuchai & SBagan, close to week highs !!! Next week 95% probability of breaching $1.60 & $4.60 respectively!!!🤗😘🤗

2 days ago

Both predictions SPOT-ON! 👍 ***Self-congratulatory dance***🕺

Posted by TheContrarian > 2024-01-15 10:11 | Report Abuse

Go, go, go Insas.

Posted by TheContrarian > 2024-01-15 10:11 | Report Abuse

Oops, wrong forum.

Posted by speakup > 2024-01-15 12:03 | Report Abuse

Sengaja ni. LOL!

Posted by TheContrarian > 2024-01-15 13:06 | Report Abuse

LOL @ speakup, you seem to be enjoying yourself at Insas forum.

Posted by Diamond7 > 2024-01-15 16:29 | Report Abuse

Vow!
Moving up slowly!

Posted by TheContrarian > 2024-01-15 16:39 | Report Abuse

Kuchai is following SBagan's uptrend.

Posted by dompeilee > 2024-01-16 09:36 | Report Abuse

Already HIGHER than my HIGHEST averaging down purchase on 3rd Jan!!!🤗😘🤗 Poor CharlesT, who looks down on other's thousands of profits & calls ppl stupi d when he's the stupi d one & for whom chicken rice is the HEIGHT of luxury....who missed the moolah boat! 🤣🤣🤣

Posted by dompeilee > 2024-01-17 18:43 | Report Abuse

Noteworthy that despite SG Index tumbling -1.4% today, Great Eastern shares continue their steady upward rise from $17.60 in late '23 to $18.34 now. Disregarding the proposal which is still months away from being approved, Kuchai's holdings in Great Eastern are worth $1.52 / shr so buyers only pay 20c for their Semenyih land, 65c of cash & their Emerald Hill freehold shophouse in S'pore collectively worth 47c /shr & doesn't even factor in their holdings in the S$ bonds & other fund investments. PLUS 4c per shr of Great Eastern's customary May dividend if the proposal drags beyond 1Q '24. A full blown takeover, like was attempted in 2006 by 88.4% owner OCBC by the end of the yr cannot be ruled out!

Posted by speakup > 2024-01-22 13:27 | Report Abuse

Very slow and steady up

Posted by Michael Kwok > 2024-01-22 13:35 | Report Abuse

Kuchai 1.73
If 1.66 can supported in 2-3 days period,then maybe something on in kuchai.
22/1/24 1.35pm

Posted by TheContrarian > 2024-01-24 22:35 | Report Abuse

Something on in Kuchai already long known. Michael Kwok, you very slow.

Posted by speakup > 2024-01-24 22:39 | Report Abuse

Funds collecting to push owners sweeten the deal?

Posted by CharlesT > 2024-01-25 06:46 | Report Abuse

Posted by dompeilee > 1 week ago | Report Abuse

Already HIGHER than my HIGHEST averaging down purchase on 3rd Jan!!!🤗😘🤗 Poor CharlesT, who looks down on other's thousands of profits & calls ppl stupi d when he's the stupi d one & for whom chicken rice is the HEIGHT of luxury....who missed the moolah boat! 🤣🤣🤣

Stupxd old lao cha bo remisier.....always show of her few hundred RM profit by buying few lots.....lol

My chicken rice money is much much more than your monthly or even yearly profit....lol

Posted by CharlesT > 2024-01-25 06:50 | Report Abuse

dompeilee

My Sungei Bagan realized earnings cross the $5k mark reaching $5,671.82 since '13 after earning ZERO last year when it was comatose ALL YEAR LONG & margin interest piled up on a small stake re-purchased too high in Oct '21!

2 weeks ago

Rm5,671.82 since 2013?????? So much ah so panlai ah??????? lol

Posted by dompeilee > 2024-01-25 08:41 | Report Abuse

🐓'Chicken' rice....🐔 the double entendre says it all! 🤣🤣🤣 SBagan price has been comatose for most of the period 2012-2023, spurting only briefly in '13, '18 & '21. Better than you, earned ZERO & better than the quick & the dead impatient gamblers( of which club you're also a member)😂

Posted by CharlesT > 2024-01-25 10:51 | Report Abuse

Lol...as long as u r happy....

Posted by CharlesT > 2024-01-25 10:58 | Report Abuse

Buying few lots making few hundreds can be very happy also to old lady...

I m very envy of u...happiness is very simple

Posted by speakup > 2 months ago | Report Abuse

Some funds positioning to force owners to sweeten the offer. Now it's 1000 get 222 Sg bagan, maybe force to 1000 get 400