YTL LAND & DEVELOPMENT BHD

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699 comment(s). Last comment by Lam LH 2021-09-02 21:06

Kris Wong

428 posts

Posted by Kris Wong > 2019-10-08 16:09 | Report Abuse

It is unlikely the Yeoh family will give Dissenting Holders a 'free lunch' now as they already hold all the 'Aces' after getting the coveted >90% acceptance !!!

Leong966

83 posts

Posted by Leong966 > 2019-10-08 18:47 | Report Abuse

@kris will the devils do like what takashi said? Selling the lands at ridiculous price?

takashi86

747 posts

Posted by takashi86 > 2019-10-08 19:19 | Report Abuse

@Leong, i didn't mentioned "selling", but now ytl land under ytl castle, they can go for all decision without EGM or whatsoever...use bit imagination u will get the picture

Leong966

83 posts

Posted by Leong966 > 2019-10-08 20:01 | Report Abuse

@takashi, are you holding any Land shares. If you have will you go for swap?

whkwoon

287 posts

Posted by whkwoon > 2019-10-08 20:11 | Report Abuse

It is a conditional take over, even if you do nothing they will automatic convert YTL Corp shares

Kris Wong

428 posts

Posted by Kris Wong > 2019-10-08 21:37 | Report Abuse

No, they still cannot forced Dissenting Holders to accept the share swap offer as they not yet get more than 97.37% acceptance, please refer to potential outcome of offer pg 53 of Independent Advice Circular dated 15 July 2019. As at now, Dissenting Holders can still freely choose themselves to whether to accept but must be within a certain timeframe OR decline the offer !!!

takashi86

747 posts

Posted by takashi86 > 2019-10-08 21:42 | Report Abuse

I sold it, @kris is correct, as my dad is still holding ytl cement share, every year got dividend as usual...but wanna sell it is a real problem, as it is not public listed, but my dad dun bother, he is retired, so no keen make money, just take the dividend and makan...

If not mistaken, u can sell not public listed company, but is really troublesome, u nid to engaged a licensed secretary and get in touch vf ytl cement management said u gonna sell it to a buyer on agreed price on willing to sell willing to buy basis...one word - headache

Kris Wong

428 posts

Posted by Kris Wong > 2019-10-09 08:57 | Report Abuse

Yes, mainly because of the Delisting as 'insisted by the 'Devils' even with the ridiculous poor share swap & takeover price, the 'not so independant' ( chosen & employed by the Devils themselves) Independent Advisor still advised and recommended that Minority Holders to accept the offer after concluded with highly contentious and debatable not fair but reasonable opinion !!! This the main reason why the 'Devils' managed to finally obtain the coveted >90% acceptance after initially getting >75% as required to be delisted !!!

Kris Wong

428 posts

Posted by Kris Wong > 2019-10-09 09:47 | Report Abuse

Compare & contrast this with the new Singapore market ruling, such Privatisation & Delisting exercise there now required both a Fair and Reasonable Independant Advisor opinion to further protect Minority Holders !!!

takashi86

747 posts

Posted by takashi86 > 2019-10-11 17:05 | Report Abuse

Bye ytl land....farewell

bfmklm

32 posts

Posted by bfmklm > 2019-10-13 19:20 | Report Abuse

life is short & God knows......

multi530

332 posts

Posted by multi530 > 2019-10-15 14:10 | Report Abuse

less than Rm300 cost percentage lot of share is nothing today. just let Francis spent more time to acquire it.

multi530

332 posts

Posted by multi530 > 2019-10-15 14:12 | Report Abuse

不甘心的小股東可以不作為, 等楊花更多時間來收購。 不然 搏一舖 希望分股息。

Leong966

83 posts

Posted by Leong966 > 2019-10-15 22:23 | Report Abuse

Let this family to spend all the money happily.. maybe they will not suffer this lifetime but definitely at hell and next lifetime

Posted by carrietan > 2019-10-16 11:58 | Report Abuse

I still hold the YTL land shares, so what can I do now? Actually I didn't received the form to accept the offer.

sapurakencana

1,144 posts

Posted by sapurakencana > 2019-10-16 13:25 | Report Abuse

If you buy at higher price,i prefer you hold the share rather than become the supper of this "rich Yeoh family"

Leong966

83 posts

Posted by Leong966 > 2019-10-16 21:43 | Report Abuse

9.5% dissidents shareholders please hold on. I’m one of you all..

takashi86

747 posts

Posted by takashi86 > 2019-10-17 14:54 | Report Abuse

Hopefully this forum will be kept active even after delisted...so all can discuss the next steps..
Or hold minorities AGM here once in a while.

Leong966

83 posts

Posted by Leong966 > 2019-10-17 16:10 | Report Abuse

SURE!

sapurakencana

1,144 posts

Posted by sapurakencana > 2019-10-17 22:17 | Report Abuse

i agree

whkwoon

287 posts

Posted by whkwoon > 2019-10-18 15:24 | Report Abuse

yes hold on to YTL Land , see you after 10 years if we live that long, pass to your children

psooi

3 posts

Posted by psooi > 2019-10-19 09:24 | Report Abuse

NTA will be higher if they revalue the land bank in Sentul. I am not going to accept the offer.

Posted by KienTiew > 2019-10-22 19:03 | Report Abuse

What is the Transfer Reference No shall I fill in the offeror form?
XX-XX-XX-XXXXX

Kris Wong

428 posts

Posted by Kris Wong > 2019-10-23 10:16 | Report Abuse

Yes, upon u completed the transfer by signing the Bursa Malaysia blue transfer form NF/11 at your stock-brokering company, u will given the transfer ref no to fill in the offeror form

multi530

332 posts

Posted by multi530 > 2019-10-23 17:34 | Report Abuse

let's keep this post active despite of YTL Land Been delisted

Leong966

83 posts

Posted by Leong966 > 2019-10-25 09:05 | Report Abuse

Mother shares below 90sens

psooi

3 posts

Posted by psooi > 2019-10-28 22:40 | Report Abuse

Can we choose not to accept the offer even they privatize?

Kris Wong

428 posts

Posted by Kris Wong > 2019-10-30 11:57 | Report Abuse

Yes u can don't accept as there is no forced compulsorily takeover yet but u will then hold unlisted shares !!!

sapurakencana

1,144 posts

Posted by sapurakencana > 2019-11-05 03:52 | Report Abuse

psooi,pls stay with us,dont follow big boss.

Posted by Joseph Woon Chee Aun > 2019-11-06 09:54 | Report Abuse

wondering what are the dates like last date to reject, and if share swap when will the ytl shares be distributed?

RVI123

659 posts

Posted by RVI123 > 2019-11-12 02:05 | Report Abuse

I am not selling my shareholdings. I am prepared to become a shareholder of unlisted YTLLand.

Eric6790

211 posts

Posted by Eric6790 > 2019-11-12 02:49 | Report Abuse

so u all means if any one still hold the company shares entitled for dividend?

RVI123

659 posts

Posted by RVI123 > 2019-11-12 12:13 | Report Abuse

@Eric6790

Yes, you are still entitled to dividends, splits, bonus issues and right issues. Everything is still the same, but the stock is not listed and you can not sell in Bursa. Other than this, there will still be AGM or EGM that you can attend.

RVI123

659 posts

Posted by RVI123 > 2019-11-12 12:41 | Report Abuse

YTLland with all the lands that are not revalued actually worths RM4.00 to RM5.00 a share. The family force the minority shareholders to sell at RM0.36 a share through share swap. It is a pure daylight robbery.

multi530

332 posts

Posted by multi530 > 2019-11-12 13:01 | Report Abuse

I even bought more share before delisted..just dont want to let Francis take it easily

Kris Wong

428 posts

Posted by Kris Wong > 2019-11-20 09:17 | Report Abuse

YTLLand's AGM also on 12 December. Same place and date as YTLCorp n YTL Power !!!

Leong966

83 posts

Posted by Leong966 > 2019-11-21 20:16 | Report Abuse

Noted

RVI123

659 posts

Posted by RVI123 > 2019-12-02 10:19 | Report Abuse

The management is going to amend the constitutions. I believe it is going to be for the advantage of the YEOH family. Can someone highlight what is the major changes?

stillloss

199 posts

Posted by stillloss > 2019-12-02 20:35 | Report Abuse

Anyone can share the location and time for the agm??

Kris Wong

428 posts

Posted by Kris Wong > 2019-12-10 09:29 | Report Abuse

AGM : Thursday 12 December 3pm The Majestic Hotel KL

takashi86

747 posts

Posted by takashi86 > 2019-12-10 22:28 | Report Abuse

They purposely chose double 12...so ppl will busy online shopping no time go agm tiu gao them!!

Kris Wong

428 posts

Posted by Kris Wong > 2019-12-16 12:06 | Report Abuse

Eldest son announced no dividend for next 5 years ?, heck,another cunning tactic to cheat dissenting shareholders to accept his company, YTLCorp, outrageous low takeover offer to accept the share swap by 7January 2020 !!!

RVI123

659 posts

Posted by RVI123 > 2019-12-17 12:37 | Report Abuse

Eldest son has slowed down and become less aggressive as compared to those days. In the AGM, he just blamed the market environment to cause the whole group to do badly. However, if we compared YTLLand to other property counters, many of the competitors like MKH and Paramount are still recording very good profits.

RVI123

659 posts

Posted by RVI123 > 2019-12-23 00:34 | Report Abuse

@yongch

May I know how much dividends have YTLCement shareholders received after the delisting? Was there any Rights or Bonus issues?

multi530

332 posts

Posted by multi530 > 2019-12-23 07:35 | Report Abuse

just keep it for another 5 yrs

Leong966

83 posts

Posted by Leong966 > 2020-01-07 21:58 | Report Abuse

Last day for dissidents shareholders

Louisngu

67 posts

Posted by Louisngu > 2020-01-09 21:43 | Report Abuse

haih stupid only dispose to thm

Leong966

83 posts

Posted by Leong966 > 2020-01-10 07:42 | Report Abuse

@yongch latest report was only 93.72%. Where did you get the info of 97%?

Yoshino

1 posts

Posted by Yoshino > 2021-07-16 10:34 | Report Abuse

I am still holding the shares, and was not aware it was delisted. I was not living in Malaysia so long time didn't followed up with the counter. May I know do I need to do anything if I choose to hold it or just leave it like that ?

Lam LH

273 posts

Posted by Lam LH > 2021-09-02 21:06 | Report Abuse

I’m still holding. Hope one day will be like YTL cement. Selling to MCement

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