WCE HOLDINGS BERHAD

KLSE (MYR): WCEHB (3565)

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Last Price

0.865

Today's Change

+0.035 (4.22%)

Day's Change

0.835 - 0.88

Trading Volume

4,067,300


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5,693 comment(s). Last comment by MarketNavigator 3 days ago

hohoho123

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Posted by hohoho123 > 2019-11-22 11:39 | Report Abuse

i thought will get 90 plus

newbie911

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Posted by newbie911 > 2019-11-22 11:41 | Report Abuse

Look like going back 0.3...

uptrending

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Posted by uptrending > 2019-11-22 11:50 | Report Abuse

original cost b4 RI.........unit cost after RI
1.24...........................................0.60
1.10...........................................0.55
1.00...........................................0.52
0.8.............................................0.45
0.7.............................................0.42
0.61...........................................0.39
0.595 ........................................0.385
0.58...........................................0.38
0.565.........................................0.375
0.55...........................................0.37
0.535.........................................0.365
0.52.......................................... 0.36
0.505........................................ 0.355
0.49............................................0.35

Posted by bursatrader123 > 2019-11-22 11:53 | Report Abuse

Meaning? Please enlighten ..

monetary

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Posted by monetary > 2019-11-22 11:54 | Report Abuse

my guess is Mon open 30c then spike up v fast. uptrending some ppl oversubscribed.

newbie911

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Posted by newbie911 > 2019-11-22 11:55 | Report Abuse

Hi uptrending...mind to knw wat ur cost?

uptrending

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Posted by uptrending > 2019-11-22 12:02 | Report Abuse

Before the RI, people sell cos don't want to fork out more money.

Now RI is over and the major shareholders couldn't get their oversubscription as original entitled shareholders applied for excess..

Be careful.. Know what the current price correspond to the price b4 the rights issue..

After the RI, assume full conversion of rcps, the equity injected by wcehb into wcesb for the construction of WCE expressway would be rm1. 08B, which is about 36 cent per share..

What is the value?

uptrending

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Posted by uptrending > 2019-11-22 12:06 | Report Abuse

newbie911 Hi uptrending...mind to knw wat ur cost?
22/11/2019 11:55 AM

Comfortably low.
I think I am among the lucky ones..

newbie911

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Posted by newbie911 > 2019-11-22 12:09 | Report Abuse

U din sell when trading above 0.4?

Posted by bursatrader123 > 2019-11-22 12:12 | Report Abuse

@uptrending....so its not a good move to sell now at this price?

uptrending

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Posted by uptrending > 2019-11-22 12:15 | Report Abuse

Different people have different perspectives

uptrending

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Posted by uptrending > 2019-11-22 12:18 | Report Abuse

Stock: [WCEHB]: WCE HOLDINGS BHD

Nov 1, 2019 9:48 PM | Report Abuse

My 2 cents view

Plus highway highest offer rm38. 338 B

80% revenue from NSE

NSE 772 KM

WCEHB, 80% of wcesb, 193 km

So wcesb should worth
(193/772)*(0.8*RM3.8338)=RM7.667B

Total construction cost is RM6. 69B

80% FINANCING RM5. 352B

EQUITY VALUE WORTH =7.667 - 5.352=2.315B

Wcehb, 80% is worth RM 1.852 B

This has not added the Bandar Rimbayu.

PLUS has 19 years concession left.. WCE has 50 years.. (plus 10 years extension*)

Distance is shorter from Taiping to Bukit Raja via WCE, 248km and 83 km built by the govt is toll free.. flat terrain, ports to ports..165 km is tolled

Whereas via Plus, from Taiping to Bukit Raja is 265 km, full tolled.

uptrending

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Posted by uptrending > 2019-11-22 12:35 | Report Abuse

Have not taken the value of the balance concessions after 19 years...

There is another 31 years concession plus 10 years extension..

It is mind boggling..

Posted by bursatrader123 > 2019-11-22 12:41 | Report Abuse

@uptrending..so after having said the above, what is your conclusion? Please share in plain words. :-)

monetary

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Posted by monetary > 2019-11-22 12:49 | Report Abuse

Investor 999 If you were entitled shareholder applying for excess RCPS and you will get 84% of your application.
Cheers !
22/11/2019 11:18 AM

U deserve to avg down ur price to the max. U have committed ur $ here for a long time n been through all the trauma.

Posted by supertrader888 > 2019-11-22 13:18 | Report Abuse

37 is good support !

newbie911

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Posted by newbie911 > 2019-11-22 14:04 | Report Abuse

Monday more selling...bcz shareholder will sell rcps.

monetary

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Posted by monetary > 2019-11-22 14:13 | Report Abuse

Mr newbie. Why have to wait till Mon to sell. Can sell in advance after ex date ma.

Posted by Investor 999 > 2019-11-22 14:18 | Report Abuse

monetary, so sorry to say that this is my first investment in WCE and i bought 6 mil units of PR at 2 cents and allotted 4.2mil units of additional RCPS out of my excess application.

monetary

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Posted by monetary > 2019-11-22 14:23 | Report Abuse

no need to b sorry. u aren't making $ from anyone. u r making $ from stock market. b happy.

uptrending

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Posted by uptrending > 2019-11-22 14:40 | Report Abuse

Bursatrader123
You make your own conclusion

Squirtle

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Posted by Squirtle > 2019-11-22 15:02 | Report Abuse

Aiyoyo
toll haven complete wan count chicken before hatch ah
See see Mon will waterfall like Kanching Fall
Muahahahaha

tiptop168

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Posted by tiptop168 > 2019-11-22 16:35 | Report Abuse

Buy..buy..buy..good price

Kingston1

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Posted by Kingston1 > 2019-11-22 16:36 | Report Abuse

Water falls soon

lamy92

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Posted by lamy92 > 2019-11-22 16:44 | Report Abuse

Monday right issue

monetary

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Posted by monetary > 2019-11-22 17:26 | Report Abuse

haha. b merciful. most ppl here suffered enough alrdy

uptrending

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Posted by uptrending > 2019-11-22 17:37 | Report Abuse

Monetary
Don't blame them... They are losers but still hope to buy back cheap...hope their wish come true

hohoho123

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Posted by hohoho123 > 2019-11-22 20:20 | Report Abuse

Uptrending ,do you know when the rcps and warranty will credit to our accounts?

uptrending

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Posted by uptrending > 2019-11-22 21:40 | Report Abuse

Next Monday Morning Before Trading Start.

uptrending

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Posted by uptrending > 2019-11-22 21:49 | Report Abuse

Even you will receive your rcps cheap via excess application, don't simply sell cheap cheap.

Tan Sri Surin saw the value in 2013 and was willing to buy a block of 141.4 million shares @rm1.35 from Tan Sri Chan A C at a time when the WCE expressway concession was awarded but the project had yet to start.

Now the project is near 70% completion and toll collection likely to commence for the completed section 8,9,10 in December follow by Section 5 and Section 4 later...

newbie911

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Posted by newbie911 > 2019-11-22 22:16 | Report Abuse

Mean tan sri chan is smarter...sold at high price Rm1.35,surin is the one got trapped. Tan sri chan can buy cheaper around Rm 0.3.

uptrending

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Posted by uptrending > 2019-11-22 22:30 | Report Abuse

Tan Sri Surin is many times wealthier.. Who do you think is smarter?

monetary

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Posted by monetary > 2019-11-22 22:36 | Report Abuse

So Mon theoretical opening price is 0.31? Those who bought PR @1.5c their cost is 0.295. 5% profit u think they'll sell?

uptrending

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Posted by uptrending > 2019-11-22 22:53 | Report Abuse

Those who bought the PR @1.5cent, their cost of rcps is 25.5 cent.

However, many are original entitled shareholders. For most, their average costs probably are above the market price now even if they subscribed for excess shares, I think.

I would predict that the selling pressure would be well absorbed and the price would rebound in the late morning or afternoon. It is too cheap.

SK1200

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Posted by SK1200 > 2019-11-22 23:01 | Report Abuse

i think this monday, this price will be go up..lets see..

newbie911

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Posted by newbie911 > 2019-11-22 23:06 | Report Abuse

Last time hong leong quek also bought alam maritim over Rm1...alam now 0.1+
Wealthy sure smart and sure win?

uptrending

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Posted by uptrending > 2019-11-22 23:17 | Report Abuse

Quek is a smart and wealthy businessman who made it to among the top richest in Malaysia.

Don't you agree?

Until the game end, you don't know yet who are the winners and losers. Meanwhile, many died along the way and the winner, you know who took mwe private at cheap price?

AlfI3

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Posted by AlfI3 > 2019-11-23 02:42 | Report Abuse

Probably wce might go private by d offeror to PLUS hiway as he failed to buy over PLUS after so many attempts. Hence, buying WCE cud b another alternatived now

monetary

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Posted by monetary > 2019-11-23 05:38 | Report Abuse

Uptrending. Thank for sharing. Now only I know pr conversion to share doesn't need to pay 4c. I m puzzled why ppl sold their right in such a big discount. I think they have no problem selling at 4c since RI is oversubscribed. I m sure many will sell for 20% instant gain on Mon. I've collected enough infor. Thanks.

CharlesT

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Posted by CharlesT > 2019-11-23 06:17 | Report Abuse

Posted by uptrending > Nov 22, 2019 11:17 PM | Report Abuse

Quek is a smart and wealthy businessman who made it to among the top richest in Malaysia.

Don't you agree?

smart n wealthy bizman also can make stupid mistake n decision lah

Koon yy also made stupid decision in xinquan etc

Quek made stupid decision in Alam...

Tan Sri Surin is God ah? never make stupid decision?

Yr argument is funny

CharlesT

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Posted by CharlesT > 2019-11-23 06:24 | Report Abuse

Basing on the amount of money he invested n all the time n effort he spent in WCE over the years, with the current huge paper loss he is suffering in WCE, at this juncture clearly WCE is not a so wise decision to Tan Sri loh..

Of course this is excluding his salary or whatever income or side income,if any he made from the co lah

Anyway in long term (5 year or 10 years or 20 years or 30 years) if Tan Sri is still alive then WCE could be proven a smart decision to him loh

CharlesT

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Posted by CharlesT > 2019-11-23 06:27 | Report Abuse

Anyone who bought PR and exercise so clearly made a wiser decision than Tan Sri right?

U also seems smarter than Tan Sri right coz yr average cost is likely lower than him...but most likely u are poorer than him....

CharlesT

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Posted by CharlesT > 2019-11-23 06:30 | Report Abuse

Smart or not so smart, wealthy or not so wealthy...

So far mostly here (Jon Boy, Felicity etc) are still suffering huge paper loss...except for those who bought PR n the mother share recently...

CharlesT

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Posted by CharlesT > 2019-11-23 06:32 | Report Abuse

Let's c how much Tan Sri let u make from PA next Mon

AlfI3

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Posted by AlfI3 > 2019-11-23 07:12 | Report Abuse

If Tan Sri support to release some great news on d mother shares then v can make $ on the PR. Eg: Govt to buy over WCE by releasing PLUS to those offerors tat had been keep approaching d govt for few rnds ody

uptrending

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Posted by uptrending > 2019-11-23 07:15 | Report Abuse

Generally speaking those who are more successful and wealthier are smarter people. They took calculated risks and made more wiser decisions and investments than bad ones, especially if they are captains of the ships they are sailing in.

They are out to do business to make money and not charity.

uptrending

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Posted by uptrending > 2019-11-23 08:40 | Report Abuse

They took calculated risks and surely would made mistakes since there are risks. The risks could be mitigated and minimised if they are holding the steerings.

Posted by yunhui98 > 2019-11-23 10:04 | Report Abuse

Could we know what's the price for WCE-WF at this moment?

newbie4444

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Posted by newbie4444 > 2019-11-23 10:08 | Report Abuse

Not they are richer and you poorer?

Posted by CharlesT > Nov 23, 2019 8:13 AM | Report Abuse
But they do make mistake too right? They r not god right?

CharlesT

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Posted by CharlesT > 2019-11-23 10:12 | Report Abuse

But my wce cost is much lower than theirs .

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