Posted by BobAxelrod > 2022-11-09 15:22 | Report Abuse

PetronM Q3 so bad.............

Cham lor, investors would dump PetronM and rushing to buy HY........

Posted by Zhuge_Liang > 2022-11-09 15:22 |

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Posted by UlarSawa > 2022-11-09 15:27 | Report Abuse

More like both all kena dumped leh. PetronM always higher price than HY by 20 to 40sen mah Haiyoh. Correct?


BobAxelrod

PetronM Q3 so bad.............

Cham lor, investors would dump PetronM and rushing to buy HY........

2 minutes ago

Posted by Zhuge_Liang > 2022-11-09 15:27 | Report Abuse

Posted by 888STOCK888 > 4 hours ago | Report Abuse

When you buy HengYuan, make sure you buy pop corn too!!!

Sit back, relax and count down to the BIGGEST HY RALLY ever!!!!

6.88---> 8.88---> 18.88 ---> 28.88 is coming?!!!

Posted by BobAxelrod > 2022-11-09 15:28 |

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Posted by UlarSawa > 2022-11-09 15:29 | Report Abuse

PetronM 4.60 them HY should around 4.2 to 4.4 leh. Now above 4.5 lagi leh. Haiyoh. Correct?

Posted by UlarSawa > 2022-11-09 15:30 | Report Abuse

Must be kaki kong kaki song. Haiyoh. Correct?


Zhuge_Liang

Posted by 888STOCK888 > 4 hours ago | Report Abuse

When you buy HengYuan, make sure you buy pop corn too!!!

Sit back, relax and count down to the BIGGEST HY RALLY ever!!!!

6.88---> 8.88---> 18.88 ---> 28.88 is coming?!!!

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Posted by IshraaqNor > 2022-11-09 15:30 | Report Abuse

Petronm punya Q3 dah keluar...?
Lebih baik buat pelaburan dengan aman di sini, tak payah curse orang ni orang tu...

Posted by Sslee > 2022-11-09 15:31 | Report Abuse

Peyron Corp
Consolidated net income of P8.2 billion.
Petron’s operating income stood strong at P16.5 billion, 23% more than 2021’s P13.4 billion.

What is operating income?
I can't find the operating income 2021’s P13.4 billion

Posted by UlarSawa > 2022-11-09 15:34 | Report Abuse

C24 7.5/8 sen only leh. Macam no confident leh. Haiyoh. Correct?

Posted by BobAxelrod > 2022-11-09 15:34 |

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Posted by Zhuge_Liang > 2022-11-09 15:36 |

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Posted by UlarSawa > 2022-11-09 15:38 | Report Abuse

What facts n figure warrant such TP to be true. Not kaki kong kaki song then call what. Haiyoh. Correct?


6.88---> 8.88---> 18.88 ---> 28.88 is coming?!!!

Posted by UlarSawa > 2022-11-09 15:39 | Report Abuse

Dont conned ppl with facts n figures leh. Haiyoh. Correct?

Posted by Sslee > 2022-11-09 15:42 | Report Abuse

Petron Corp just press released Q3 Consolidated net income of P8.2 billion and operating income stood strong at P16.5 billion, 23% more than 2021’s P13.4 billion without the detail financial result.

Once the detail Q3 financial result release in next few days then can work backward from Net income attributable to Non-controlling interest to get the NP for Petron Malaysia.

Posted by Zhuge_Liang > 2022-11-09 15:42 | Report Abuse

No one point a gun to force you to buy Hengyuan.

Posted by UlarSawa > 2022-11-09 15:44 | Report Abuse

No one point a gun to force you to sell also leh. You can keep mah. Why so gancheong lah. Haiyoh. Correct?

Posted by Sslee > 2022-11-09 15:47 | Report Abuse

Petron Corp has borrowing of more than USD 1 billion. A 10% depreciation against USD will result in more than 5.8 billion peso addition to the borrowing in Philipine Peso currency.

Posted by BobAxelrod > 2022-11-09 15:48 |

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Posted by UlarSawa > 2022-11-09 15:53 | Report Abuse

Nvm lah. HY with at least rm2 eps lah. Must believe facts n figures leh. You sound like dont believe HY can get rm2 eps kah. Haiyoh. Correct?


BobAxelrod

Even so, Q3 Consolidated net income of P8.2 billion and operating income stood strong at P16.5 billion, not exactly painting a rosy picture..........shit!

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Posted by UlarSawa > 2022-11-09 15:57 | Report Abuse

Normally subsi released QR first then parent company baru release QR leh. Now parent released first then dunno when subsi PetronM baru release later kah. Haiyoh. Correct?

Posted by UlarSawa > 2022-11-09 15:58 | Report Abuse

Ular got one question leh. Why Petron Corp can released the result from PetronM padahal PetronM QR not out yet. They plucked from the sky kah. Haiyoh. Correct?

Posted by Sslee > 2022-11-09 15:59 | Report Abuse

Petron Corp.
June 30, 2022
USD(million) equilvalent Philipine Peso.
Liabilities
Short-term loans 308: 16,958
Liabilities for crude oil and petroleum products 1,146: 63,022
Long-term debt (including current maturities) 702: 38,577
Other liabilities 324: 17,773

Posted by UlarSawa > 2022-11-09 16:02 |

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Posted by UlarSawa > 2022-11-09 16:07 | Report Abuse

Currency profile of borrowings: - USD equvalent rm1,500,466 increased from rm798,297

Terms and conditions of the term loans and revolving credits are as disclosed in the audited financial statements for the financial year ended 31 December 2021. As at 30 June 2022, the Company had current borrowings of RM1,500 million. The Company is undergoing refinancing of its term loans and revolving credits. The Board is confident that the refinancing program will be completed prior to the required repayment of the borrowings in January 2023. The proceeds from the refinancing will enable the Company to meet its working capital requirements in addition to repayment of the borrowings.

Posted by UlarSawa > 2022-11-09 16:11 | Report Abuse

C24 7.5sen pun ada seller kah. Loss of confidence judi CW kah. 10.5 sen tak mau jual now jual 7.5sen kah. Haiyoh. Correct?

Posted by BobAxelrod > 2022-11-09 16:17 |

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Posted by UlarSawa > 2022-11-09 16:24 | Report Abuse

HY want to refinance more than rm1.5 bil to repay the old loan and extra for working capital leh. Meaning loan amount will exceed rm1.5bil kah. Why keep increase borrow money one. Cannot generate cash kah. Earn at least another rm 2.00 eps as per many show facts n figures leh. By then increase by how much this time. Dunno lah. Haiyoh. Correct?

Posted by UlarSawa > 2022-11-09 16:25 | Report Abuse

You no facts n figures keep quiet lah. We all talking must show facts n figures leh. Cannot anyhow plucked from the sky leh. Haiyoh. Correct?



i3lurker

the market price of HRC reflects the fair value.

all the answers to questions that you ever wanted to ask is in the share price today.

3 minutes ago

Posted by UlarSawa > 2022-11-09 16:28 | Report Abuse

Some even dare to plucked from the sky then cakap it is facts n figures leh. Haiyoh. Correct?

6.88---> 8.88---> 18.88 ---> 28.88 is coming?!!!

Posted by BobAxelrod > 2022-11-09 16:34 |

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Posted by MunChunxX > 2022-11-09 16:38 | Report Abuse

china still not out of danger zone

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Posted by MunChunxX > 2022-11-09 16:40 | Report Abuse

HENGYUAN Refining Co Bhd has been caught in a downtrend of late but there are signs of a rebound at the immediate support.The stock was seen advancing in intraday trade as it struggled to make headway near the RM4.50 level.

Posted by MunChunxX > 2022-11-09 16:41 | Report Abuse

However, the slow-stochastic is edging higher in oversold conditions, and while still weak, there could be some positive retracement in the event of further momentum growth

Posted by UlarSawa > 2022-11-09 16:46 | Report Abuse

Cannot like this leh. Must talk facts n figures only leh. Cannot anyhow plucked from the sky and mislead ppl to buy or sell the saham leh. Ular kena scolded by facts n figures promoter leh. Haiyoh. Correct?


i3lurker

Dragon, no need to panic !!!!

its only money !!!

2 minutes ago

Posted by UlarSawa > 2022-11-09 16:48 | Report Abuse

You sure or not. Sifu OTB punya student cakap bullish with golden crossed leh. Bullish signal leh. Haiyoh. Correct?



MunChunxX


HENGYUAN Refining Co Bhd has been caught in a downtrend of late but there are signs of a rebound at the immediate support.The stock was seen advancing in intraday trade as it struggled to make headway near the RM4.50 level.

5 minutes ago


MunChunxX

However, the slow-stochastic is edging higher in oversold conditions, and while still weak, there could be some positive retracement in the event of further momentum growth

5 minutes ago

Posted by UlarSawa > 2022-11-09 16:50 | Report Abuse

But the company very confident can refinance the loan before it expired by jan 2023 leh. Ada black n white tulis in last QR leh. Bank dont want to give loan kah. Can get higher interest rate leh. Haiyoh. Correct?

BobAxelrod

Frankly speaking, Banks have avoided Petroleum companies for some time. That's why HY went for Bonds market to borrow.

The Business operations of PetronM and HY are different. But it would be a huge surprise if PetronM's earnings are not in line with Refinery/Retail modules..........

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Posted by UlarSawa > 2022-11-09 17:09 | Report Abuse

Issue bond or bank loan also need to pay interest leh. Maybe issue bond in RM not so bad in case USD keep increasing leh. Haiyoh. Correct?


BobAxelrod

Refinance by way of other Banks or from Bonds??? But the company has arranged for more working capital and the current bank loans are nothing to worry about.

The HY price is highly dependent on Earnings and hopefully PetronM would not drag it down together.

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Posted by UlarSawa > 2022-11-09 17:12 | Report Abuse

Trump party 197 seats very near to 218 seat in House rep. Senate still the same Biden party leading by 1 seat 48 - 47 now.

Posted by Rabbit2 > 2022-11-09 17:58 | Report Abuse

Operating income = Pre-tax profit excluding finance charges = 6120+7291=13411

Posted by BobAxelrod > 2022-11-09 18:07 | Report Abuse

You mean like USD1 = RM5.50 ke???? It's already at 4.73
Only way is to stabilise and go down.....not up anymore......or we are so screwed, not only HY.

Posted by UlarSawa > 56 minutes ago | Report Abuse

Issue bond or bank loan also need to pay interest leh. Maybe issue bond in RM not so bad in case USD keep increasing leh. Haiyoh. Correct?

Posted by UlarSawa > 2022-11-09 18:48 | Report Abuse

You see USD vs RM April to June 4.20 - 4.40. Jul to Sept 4.40 - 4.60 leh. Then what happen to USD loan equivalent to rm1.5bil increase further or not. Future oct to dec 4.60 - ??? Dunno leh. Fed increase rate further next month 0.5 to 0.75 if lah. BNM sempat to increase rate or not. Dunno leh. Haiyoh. Correct?


BobAxelrod

You mean like USD1 = RM5.50 ke???? It's already at 4.73
Only way is to stabilise and go down.....not up anymore......or we are so screwed, not only HY.

Posted by BobAxelrod > 2022-11-09 18:51 | Report Abuse

HY Bonds denominated in USD is not from early 2022. It's now....

Posted by UlarSawa > 2022-11-09 19:01 | Report Abuse

Now talking about existing bank loan rm1.5bil leh. bond not yet right. Max rm5 bil in what currency. Must be USD kah. Cannot follow Russia or China or India or Iran de dollarisation kah. Haiyoh. Correct?

Posted by UlarSawa > 2022-11-09 19:05 | Report Abuse

Anyway look at current QR later this month will release lah. Whatever good or bad also have to accept it lah. Your CW dont too greedy leh. Can swing why dont do it. Sudah cakap 2 times leh. Who care what HY QR berapa EPS lah. You have limited time to play your CW leh. After hot awhile it cool down. Hot again cool down again. At the end Toilet paper juga kah. 99% will be leh. Why bet against the odd leh. Haiyoh. Correct?

Posted by BobAxelrod > 2022-11-09 19:11 | Report Abuse

Thanks for your suggestions....twice!. But I like to cut it close....very close. Maybe take profits on the small batch bought at 6c first.

Posted by BobAxelrod > 2022-11-09 19:12 |

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