KUMPULAN HARTANAH SELANGOR BHD

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3,409 comment(s). Last comment by chatterbox 2013-09-23 21:22

Rose

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Posted by Rose > 2013-02-15 09:58 | Report Abuse

Hi Mr Ooi Teck Bee, KHSB takeover price is 0.76 and yet got sellers at 0.61 ,how do you see this, the exercise going through or falling through? tq

anbz

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Posted by anbz > 2013-02-15 10:10 | Report Abuse

wah a lot of people made money today, most i think

anbz

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Posted by anbz > 2013-02-15 10:13 | Report Abuse

except contra yesterday, may be contra who bought at 0.68 and also today

jtpc2006

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Posted by jtpc2006 > 2013-02-15 10:28 | Report Abuse

see quite a lot of selling activity, people taking profit, just in case...also got buying too, market adjusting

Ooi Teik Bee

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Posted by Ooi Teik Bee > 2013-02-15 10:28 |

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sephiroth

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Posted by sephiroth > 2013-02-15 10:31 | Report Abuse

if BN win Selangor, can the deal go thru?

norhafizal

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Posted by norhafizal > 2013-02-15 10:34 | Report Abuse

jika BN win , janji ditepati...hehe

Rose

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Posted by Rose > 2013-02-15 10:56 | Report Abuse

tq Mr Ooi , may the black water snake year brings us lots of $$$

Ooi Teik Bee

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Posted by Ooi Teik Bee > 2013-02-15 11:36 | Report Abuse

Dear Rose,

Thank you.

I need Bing fire in my Bazi, snake carries a strong Bing Fire. Look like it is coming and a good start after CNY.

Best regards always,

Ooi

necro

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Posted by necro > 2013-02-15 11:41 | Report Abuse

Jika BN MENANG kena Booooooo.....

minitrader

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Posted by minitrader > 2013-02-15 11:46 | Report Abuse

necro, what we want is a peaceful and prosperous nation...doesn't matter who wins...

Rose

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Posted by Rose > 2013-02-15 12:58 | Report Abuse

Mr Ooi looks like you are also into fengshui, wear more red/orange then to bring on the Bing fire. Khsb is indeed a good start to the new year, I am thankful for the angpao.

kytan

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Posted by kytan > 2013-02-15 13:48 | Report Abuse

if the deal approve, the current share price 0.65 is good price to earn profit at 0.76. 0.11 increase (16.9%).

limahcai

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Posted by limahcai > 2013-02-15 14:27 | Report Abuse

Mr Ooi, what price for L&G u think can go thru? Thanks

value_man

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Posted by value_man > 2013-02-15 14:37 | Report Abuse

Please check who sits on the board of KDEB and KHSB :)

Ooi Teik Bee

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Posted by Ooi Teik Bee > 2013-02-15 14:38 | Report Abuse

To me, any price < 0.40 is a good buy.

Thank you.

Ooi

KAHFIEHLAI

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Posted by KAHFIEHLAI > 2013-02-15 14:39 | Report Abuse

V-man
What not just tell us? Thanks

value_man

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Posted by value_man > 2013-02-15 14:43 | Report Abuse

YM RAJA HAJI IDRIS BIN RAJA KAMARUDIN and EN. SUHAIMI BIN KAMARALZAMAN are board members of both KHSB and KDEB.

value_man

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Posted by value_man > 2013-02-15 15:33 | Report Abuse

KHSB has 1196 acres of land in Pulau Indah for development. The land alone is worth RM1.0 Million per acre.
Source here: http://www.theedgemalaysia.com/in-the-financial-daily/214257-khsb-earmarks-pulau-indah-land-for-rm8b-project.html

value_man

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Posted by value_man > 2013-02-15 15:37 | Report Abuse

KDEB's offer of RM193.46mil or 76 sen per share is dirt cheap when compared with KHSB's land in Pulau Indah.

Hustle

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Posted by Hustle > 2013-02-15 15:37 | Report Abuse

Wow I'm sure Cold Eye will be very interested in this counter :)

value_man

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Posted by value_man > 2013-02-15 15:40 | Report Abuse

KHSB is a lousy company but it has a lot of land assets.

Ooi Teik Bee

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Posted by Ooi Teik Bee > 2013-02-15 15:53 | Report Abuse

The land in Sungai Buluh is near the MRT station, this land also worth a lot of money. Using the land cost to revalue this stock, at 0.76 is dirt cheap. If this company is not owned by Selangor govt, the share price will fly. The land in Pulau Indah and Sungai Buluh are worth more than 0.76.

Thank you.

Ooi

tradersam

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Posted by tradersam > 2013-02-15 16:06 | Report Abuse

Thanks Mr. Ooi for your rational advice and feedback. We need more ppl like you in this forum. We have many talking craps n shits in this forum! Hope there are more like you for the benefit of all!

Ooi Teik Bee

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Posted by Ooi Teik Bee > 2013-02-15 16:34 |

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Posted by petepereira > 2013-02-15 16:45 | Report Abuse

Dear Mr Ooi, as I've said in a previous thread: the unconditional generosity of people like yourself and kcchongnz is what makes you a success. There will always be people in this world who are addicted to misery and who lack the capacity to take responsibility for the decisions that they make. That is why they look to blame others when they have made a bad decision. Be grateful when you come across people like this because they should remind you that you are the exact opposite of them!
May you prosper greatly in this year

anbz

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Posted by anbz > 2013-02-15 18:07 | Report Abuse

Mr Oii Teik Bee, could i ask u,
1. when do u think the price will be near 0.76 , say 0.745 may be?

no 2 is for loss the of today transaction, could u figure out for me/us , why do u think all the funds/investor, in the midst of contra buyer/sellers, don't snap the chance when it is now as low as 0.635, or do they think for the next day of trading for lower cost of buying?

and 3rd, last one , Do u think market is not confident of the deal or because of sentiment or what?

investor77

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Posted by investor77 > 2013-02-15 18:47 | Report Abuse

Dear Mr OOi,

Would appreciate your comment on how you see market reaction when announcement of Parlaiment dissolved ( say Feb 22 ). From what I gathered, most Funds do not like uncertainty, so there will be a fall.
Voting rumoured to be on 30 th March.

As a player from 1978, I agree that contra play is very dangerous as market swings unexpectedly in the short period. To expect to make lots of money, say >30% per year, DY of >10% is too much, but yet at a recent T3B System forum, that is what young people wants!!

On that note, is it wise to sell off Non performing shares tho at a big loss now, and with that money concentrate on active shares which have fallen after dissolution of parlaiment, and make up for the loss. Eg-(Losers-- Rce capital, Fajar-WA,Malton, etc) . Active - Pres Bhd,Pantech, etc.

Can we base our buying selling on Feng Shui, as it says second half better? In 2008, mkt rebounded after 6-9 mths from election.

Thank You.

Ooi Teik Bee

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Posted by Ooi Teik Bee > 2013-02-15 19:40 |

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Ooi Teik Bee

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Posted by Ooi Teik Bee > 2013-02-15 19:49 |

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FatCat

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Posted by FatCat > 2013-02-15 22:12 | Report Abuse

Big Boy story.

http://klse.i3investor.com/blogs/purebull/24780.jsp

nightrader

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Posted by nightrader > 2013-02-15 23:01 | Report Abuse

what happens after 10 days when offer accepted?
need approval from any authority? thanks

anbz

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Posted by anbz > 2013-02-16 09:10 | Report Abuse

Tq very much Mr Oii, sorry i want to ask u again about..today there is negative perspective at first page of NST, they said they analysts said :
1.the deal is confusing
2. the deal is to bailout khsb
3. the intention of the deal is not clear and has no
purpose
4. the deal is a deal of buying KHSB from KPS, which is
already a subsidiary of KDEB, meaning no purpose also
5. the deal is political
6. the deal could be off when/if BN take back Selangor
after election
7. they also said the surge is temporary
8. they also said/advise who has the share to sell
9. they also said whoever one to make profit it is abit
hard
10. it will be above 0.70 but temporary
Sorry Mr Oii, they gave it boldly like that, check NST,... i know NST is a piece of shit, saying that...such as Permaju get more than RM1 billion logging right , this and that and so on...but they really want it to fail,
11. what do you think the perception of readers who read it
12. and , sorry 2nd last question , don't know how to make
decision, some ask from where is KDEB going to fund this
big cash deal
13. Lastly could the deal executed within time frame from
the dissolution of parliament to election day? i hope u can
give me/us detailed explaination, sorry Mr Oii for to much
of this.

Ooi Teik Bee

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Posted by Ooi Teik Bee > 2013-02-16 10:39 |

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skyland

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Posted by skyland > 2013-02-16 10:50 | Report Abuse

Ooi Teik Bee...thanks for your info on khsb....i will buy in l&g also(currently still zero holding)...will buy & hold below 0.40

Posted by devilnevercry > 2013-02-16 10:53 | Report Abuse

Thanks for the advice Mr. Ooi. Appreciate hearing your comments

Posted by Maria Kamaruddin > 2013-02-16 12:40 | Report Abuse

I STILL THINK IT A BAILOUT..BE CAREFUL

Ooi Teik Bee

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Posted by Ooi Teik Bee > 2013-02-16 14:59 | Report Abuse

Posted by Maria Kamaruddin > Feb 16, 2013 12:40 PM | Report Abuse

I STILL THINK IT A BAILOUT..BE CAREFUL

Dear Maria Kamaruddin,

Below is the list of large piece of land in Selangor owned by KHSB :-

1,196 acres in Pulau Indah worth RM 1,196 Million @ 1 mil/acre
9.9 acres of land in Section 14 PJ worth 50 Million @ 5 mil/acre
4,975 acres of land in Berjuntai Bestari worth 498 million @ 100k/acre
285 acres of land in Bestari Jaya worth 570 million @ 2 mil/acres

Total value = 2,314 million
Total debt = 586 million
Paid up capital = 450 million

Net worth = 3.84 / share

Please note that KDEB is buying at 0.76 / share, is it a bailout ?

To me, it is dirt cheap for KDEB to buy at 0.76 per share.

I only count the large pieces of land, there are 57 pieces of land owned by KHSB in 2011 annual report.

The land in Bestari Jaya is near Sungai Buloh MRT station, hence I value at 2 million per acres.

Assume I am only 50% correct in valuing the land price of KHSB, the price per share should be 1.92 / share.

Maria Kamaruddin, please get your fact right. Is it a cheap sale or bailout ?

Thank you.

Ooi

skyland

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Posted by skyland > 2013-02-16 15:12 | Report Abuse

thanks ooi for the info

anbz

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Posted by anbz > 2013-02-16 16:45 | Report Abuse

u are right Mr Oii, NST is cheapskate talking without any solid argument, what type analysts do NST refers to. So u told this is about credibility, u're right, i just hope i can share my opinion:

1. KDEB owns 60% of KPS, KHSB is >59% owned by KPS, and also wned by PKNS and other KDEB subs
2.NST cheapskate don't give fair analysis, not like an economic analyst just talking about losses for 4 years, hiding about the assets/lands
3. If really it is true that it's bailout or political, who cares, what is important is the deal...they never consider that? stupid NST
4. They ask people to sell, if the deal is done later, they will keep quiet... bloody, i hope some who knows can make reports against NST for many false news and analysis they'd reported
5. Your saying about the selangor gov to build reasonable/ cheaper for the rakyat, this is big prob for the selangor rakyat, not many can buy houses at RM300,000 or more, and i doubt many can even buy house at RM200,000. This is to build the image/ and truly for the rakyat because no one losing.
5. The biggest think as reported in The Star yesterday is the Menteri Besar Tan Sri Khalil himself...himself... who announced about the proposal. and everybody knows that he is not kaki putar while he's in politics or corporate, i'm not supporter of pkr pas dap bn mca nor mic, just a fact , as i recognized for what najib had done to prosper our economy. Thanks Mr Oii...the faster the deal the better don't u think?
16/02/2013 16:43

Ooi Teik Bee

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Posted by Ooi Teik Bee > 2013-02-16 17:09 | Report Abuse

Dear Anbz,

Please note that my surname is Ooi.

You write,
5. The biggest thing as reported in The Star yesterday is the Menteri Besar Tan Sri Khalil himself...himself... who announced about the proposal.

I did not read newspaper in Malaysia, from the above statement that Menteri Besar Tan Sri Khalil announced this news, I am very sure this deal is 100% sure will be a true one.

I will not sell it until around 0.75.

Thank you.

Ooi

Rose

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Posted by Rose > 2013-02-16 17:36 | Report Abuse

You guys really convinced me to hold till $0.75 , selangor MB is a respectable man ,he has the raykat welfare close to his heart, that's the reason why he wants to consolidate the water concessionaires to save the raykat from paying higher rate for water. Hats off MB.

value_man

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Posted by value_man > 2013-02-16 17:36 | Report Abuse

Kumpulan Peransang, Kumpulan Hartanah and Kumpulan Darul Ehsan have the same directors -

YM Raja Haji Idris
Encik Suhaimi bin Kamaralzaman (Chairman of both KPS & KHSB)

This is a done deal in my opinion.

:)

nightrader

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Posted by nightrader > 2013-02-16 17:50 | Report Abuse

will buy more monday .....price drop more better

Posted by Matsaham Mashuk > 2013-02-16 17:57 | Report Abuse

Hmm..buy on the rumor, sell on the news..smile--)

kytan

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Posted by kytan > 2013-02-16 18:36 | Report Abuse

10 days mean 10 working days right? wait for the bonus. since the fund manager already back from holiday. even fund manager not buying, KPS will keep buying at cheap price to have majority share for future take over.

anbz

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Posted by anbz > 2013-02-16 22:06 | Report Abuse

sorry Mr Ooi , wrong typing

necro

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Posted by necro > 2013-02-16 22:12 | Report Abuse

Anbz bukan ker khalil nak bubar selepas Chap go meh(sorry is wrong spelling)..

anbz

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Posted by anbz > 2013-02-16 22:18 | Report Abuse

khalil cakap je, politik, kalau bn bubar sekarang pun selangor takkan bubar lagi selagi belum siap deal... Khalil yg announce kat dlm star, dgn perkataan dia sendiri... semua kdeb, khsb, kps bawah khalil... kenapa pula tak boleh deal, lagipun mungkin beribu org pkr dah tau awal... umno pakai xox,tiger sama patimas, tapi ini pkr ...cuma sangkaanku bukan tuduhan ya, lagi hebat pakai terus counter yg naik dr 38 sen jadi 76,...ini lagi hebat, tak yah deal dgn tokay2, makan pun besar berkali ganda fikirku berbanding tiger patimas xox, pkr pun nak budget utk election expenses...he he he

Posted by khalil992418 > 2013-02-16 22:34 | Report Abuse

Ye mmg nak bubar punnnnn hahaha MB Khalid daaaa

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