Think no provision or impairment in near term, but doubt can be good either. Unless selective capital repayment option is offered, hardly any chance to see upward momentum in near term... don't like what I heard in the AGM
Kahhoeng has put up a good fight during the AGM. Plantation acquisition is earning negative for at least next 5 years, Triplc construction and maintenance is earning positive from day one. Net net, Puncak return to black after acquisition. Unless more shocks from existing business
tenmil, thanks. I have spoken to Rozali's son. What I am trying to convey is as follow: Rozali is rich beyond believe in Malaysia, at least the top 1%. How Puncak's minorities are being treated are not right. The plantation deal is clearly overpriced. Even though the land itself is cheap, the cost of planted (he can't say much how much will be paid to the roughly 2000 hectares planted after the announcement, part of what I am angry about) is extremely expensive if the similar deal is compared to. I don't know much about the planting cost, but my guess it will most likely less than 20,000 per hectare. It is crazy to pay 45,000+ per hectare even when the trees are planted during the negotiation (where's the cutoff point where the price will only be the cost of planting?) Furthermore, the deal is ONLY a 36% stake of the plantation and there's a likelihood Rozali will buy the rest. And, at what price? Another 45,000 per hectare? If so, we are looking at between 100 - 400 million additional cost to the company, assuming 11,000 per hectare overpriced. If Rozali has so much faith in the plantation deal or TRIPLC deal, offer us a selective capital repayment option to let us minorities an opportunity to go. I didn't have the chance to propose a price, but the cash per share of the company is 2.40 (my guess is over 40 million has been thrown in for the plantation deal) with NA of approximately 3.20. An offer of approximately 2.30 should do just fine, assuming 45 millions are kept to fend off the Selangor state government's claim. I believe I am neither greedy and ungrateful for his years guiding Puncak Niaga nor ideologist seeking 100% fair treatment. He will still be sitting on 2.40-2.60 cash per share and 1.60 other assets on per share basis.
Frankly, real upset when he said he's aware the share price is less than 1.00 while company cash is 2.40 and NA is 3.20 and daring to suggest us to buy without even initiating share buy back and buying shares from the market for himself.
he won't listen to you. the plantation is overpriced, he is aware, this is you know I know. even triple deal is expensive, another you know I know. Malaysia mah... u know I know... mo 1 know hippo know. sarah lian a moi know...
Oh, I did also mention to Rozali's son that a 200 million expenditure on share buy back not only benefits minorities and improve trust, the deal will boost his own net worth and increase his own shareholding. It's not right not even doing the minimum...
Rozali's son is a very intelligent guy. He wont make the company die so fast, he will slowly kill it..... Share price below Rm1 is cheap. PLz listen to Rozali's son, put more money invest in puncak....So tat the share price wont fall to 0.80 so fast. I think no one will buy this share even the share is moving..
angiess - if he sell the assets ... money is belonged to all shareholders like kahhoeng, sarah lian a moi, fakehawk..... if he buys expensive plantation lands, extra money (expensive price less market price = price diff) will go to who? in addition, he will have the good salary, bonus for managing the company, company luxury merc (few cars per person) to enjoy. just like maika holding, remember? the son is enjoying his gf in his company using those hard earned money from their own poor race.
hopefully, there are sufficient shareholders calling SC already and SC has made the right moves... Having attended the AGM, I sincerely doubt Rozali's personality, a sharp turn from what I read through quarter reports and annual reports (Sigh, CIMB's analyst reports really screw me up this time in big way...)
Anyway, I have done all I think should be done, attended AGM to raise my concern in hope Rozali would rework the plantation deal to ease shareholders' concern or offer a privatization offer (or selective capital repayment or whatsoever.) besides meeting SC in hope further clarification is offered on the PN 16 classification (was told will be updated once clearance is given.) Otherwise, can only hope SC is really taking this matter seriously, given that the PN 16 is not enforced on Puncak right after water asset disposal from the beginning that has contributed towards Rozali's chances of ignoring minorities interests.
Otherwise, guess have to pray kuat kuat that the TRIPLC deal can really deliver (have little faith it can be stopped at all) and plantation can bear fruits at 1.5 years 'matured' trees claimed by Puncak.
Really no clue what to do myself, selling some and my cost per share will rise and make me felt like being taken advantage of, yet seeing little future with what's offered so far. Guess the only consolation would be Puncak will most likely trade around this level until either good or bad event hits it again...
reality is .. we all got conned by our trust in expecting rozali and puncak board to have the minimum standard of self worth... unfortunately unfortunately we are wrong
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Posted by angiess > 2017-05-19 18:55 | Report Abuse
Kah hoe, can provide the AGM venue & time?