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14,113 comment(s). Last comment by AmirIffaan 1 week ago

ikenduit

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Posted by ikenduit > 2020-08-20 19:18 | Report Abuse

Halal certified may not be necessary. Certain drugs already contain bovine etc and permissable for use. Info I got from industry friend.

ikenduit

581 posts

Posted by ikenduit > 2020-08-20 19:22 | Report Abuse

This vaccine is something u gonna inject in human body. Not any Tom and Harry will be allowed to manage the supply chain. Very stringent industries.

stockraider

31,556 posts

Posted by stockraider > 2020-08-20 19:34 | Report Abuse

These people need wake up mah....!!

Solution Covid19 vaccine distributorship wins clearly a thumbs up of merits over connection mah.....!!

If cansino wants to chose connection surely they would have picked dpharma and pharmaniaga mah....!!

Why Cansino are not impressed of these 2 GLC jokers Pharmaniaga & Dpharma leh ?

I think Solution win by merits mah....!!

Cansino dare to make this decision to chose Solution independently based on BEST MAN .

Cansino dare to fuck off the GLC bcos they know their products have overwhelming demand compare to their capacity loh, thus no need ampu the Govt mah...!!

GuanYinMa

167 posts

Posted by GuanYinMa > 2020-08-20 19:34 | Report Abuse

Im trying to keep an open mind and unbiased sometimes. Yet im surprised to see so much dummies in the stock market. Cant discuss or debate properly. All talk like uncle aunty on whatsapp.

DrLimKH

424 posts

Posted by DrLimKH > 2020-08-20 19:37 | Report Abuse

the fact remains only 2 can do FF and only 1 has comprehensive LD

DrLimKH

424 posts

Posted by DrLimKH > 2020-08-20 19:37 | Report Abuse

So how many can win tender criteria?

GuanYinMa

167 posts

Posted by GuanYinMa > 2020-08-20 19:38 | Report Abuse

Products have overwhelming demand? Dude....

Dpharma actually is the only company in Malaysia with a vaccine line production. They have a factory in klang for this purpose which was established in 2011 for some other vaccine but was failed in the end. Hence was unutilised until today.

stockraider

31,556 posts

Posted by stockraider > 2020-08-20 19:45 | Report Abuse

Pharmaniaga & Duopharma perhaps need to queue & beg to sign up for European & American Vaccine loh...!!

Casino only supply for 2 million dose pa to Malaysia this is clearly not sufficient, the Msian govt need to seach for another 20m dose of covid19 vaccine loh....!!

The possiblity of Pharmaniaga & Dpharma getting the future deal are still question mark for all to think loh...!!

Other companies like Kotra, Ahealth, Yspsah, Nova Wellness, Bioalpha and Hovid will still stand an equal chance of securing new covid19 vaccine deal on merits loh....!!

ikenduit

581 posts

Posted by ikenduit > 2020-08-20 19:49 | Report Abuse

@Guanyinma. Couldn't agree more. Too many sohai newbies in forum making brainless comment nowadays.

stockraider

31,556 posts

Posted by stockraider > 2020-08-20 19:53 | Report Abuse

When there is a shortage the margin will be very good mah...!!

This is basic economics loh...!!

Just look at Gloves....why the share is flying so high loh...!!

All bcos of shortages & the gloves companies make very huge margin loh.!!

The same apply to covid19 vaccine margin will be very high loh..!!

ikenduit

581 posts

Posted by ikenduit > 2020-08-20 19:53 | Report Abuse

@DrLimKH. Spot on.

James89

478 posts

Posted by James89 > 2020-08-20 19:55 | Report Abuse

Good Distribution Practice for sterile
Good Manufacturing Practice for sterile

These 2 accreditations are not some ah kok ah peng can acquire over 1-2 months ya. Please dont simply say bio, nova, solution, titi can do and spread false information in forum.

laychee

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Posted by laychee > 2020-08-20 19:59 | Report Abuse

KJ will win the hearts of a lots of supporters by making that statement. Good for his career path no matter what the outcome is. The purpose has been achieved. Bright future for him.

stockraider

31,556 posts

Posted by stockraider > 2020-08-20 20:01 | Report Abuse

Surely KKM will look up for interest of Msian citizenship mah...!!

If Cansino vaccine is effective, good & safe then KKM will approve mah..!!

Do not forget China Military use cansino covid19 vaccine mah...!!

U think KKM want to "play politic" with Msian Citizen life meh ?

Posted by CKNG8291 > Aug 20, 2020 7:55 PM | Report Abuse

Provided solution got the clearance from kkm. Which I doubt so, simply because they have no experience and facilities

stockraider

31,556 posts

Posted by stockraider > 2020-08-20 20:09 | Report Abuse

Correctloh....thats why Cansino covid19 vaccine use by China military are no joke & not fruit juice loh...!!

This is the world best quality vaccine u can find mah...!!

Cansino is not joking when they chose Solution as a partner mah...!

They know Solution can do their job very well mah...!

Posted by CKNG8291 > Aug 20, 2020 8:03 PM | Report Abuse

Vaccine is not fruit juice, is a control item and subject to government approval, solution got ? Joking

gemfinder

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Posted by gemfinder > 2020-08-20 20:12 | Report Abuse

All vacines must be aproved by kkm. N gov wil apoint someone to do d filing. Not suka suka ah g ah kau simply can do the packing

stockraider

31,556 posts

Posted by stockraider > 2020-08-20 20:13 |

Post removed.Why?

stockraider

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Posted by stockraider > 2020-08-20 20:14 | Report Abuse

Very true mah...!!

Correctloh....thats why Cansino covid19 vaccine use by China military are no joke & not fruit juice loh...!!

This is the world best quality vaccine u can find mah...!!

Cansino is not joking when they chose Solution as a partner mah...!

They know Solution can do their job very well mah...!

Posted by gemfinder > Aug 20, 2020 8:12 PM | Report Abuse

All vacines must be aproved by kkm. N gov wil apoint someone to do d filing. Not suka suka ah g ah kau simply can do the packing

gemfinder

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Posted by gemfinder > 2020-08-20 20:24 | Report Abuse

My take is like tat. Since so many vacine . Those pick by gov wil fill d vacine for public use for free. Those not pick by gov wil fill the vacine for private use which wil be charge. So u think which market is biger? I guess pharma wil benefit the most

ikenduit

581 posts

Posted by ikenduit > 2020-08-20 20:30 | Report Abuse

The same sour grape in pharma and dpharma forum. Promoting hard his Solution. Lol

Posted by vanness_lyh > 2020-08-20 21:27 | Report Abuse

Covid-19 vaccine won't be mandatory in US, says Fauci


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https://www.malaymail.com/news/world/2020/08/20/covid-19-vaccine-wont-be-mandatory-in-us-says-fauci/1895488

DrLimKH

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Posted by DrLimKH > 2020-08-20 21:32 | Report Abuse

Ph is govt supplier means
Contract huge but having deal with govt b4, the price is dictated as cuz book value is assured and competition negligible so margin is small.

Collection period is std but assured so banks will lend readily (Affin bank is part of Boustead that owns 50% Ph).

Biz ethics are different means can't go around town bragging else get govt in trouble unlike Dp MD goes onair promo Dp but Ph can't do that.

Both are GLC but Ph board has more ex military cuz medicine is national security matter and that's why LTAT is a key stake holder for CSR reason.

Ph dividend is stable and predictable 2.5sen vs Dh 0.5sen

Because it's govt's mfr it has to ensure infrastructure for distribution so it had to invest more in L

DrLimKH

424 posts

Posted by DrLimKH > 2020-08-20 21:34 | Report Abuse

Khairy said will recommend govt give free vaccine (sg is giving I heard so is US)

Must lar..we pay personal income tax.

Means govt buy and appoint someone to do FF and LD. Only both Ph and Dp have FF facilities but Ph has LD that Dp lacks.

Who pays for vaccine?

Parliament has brought out Windfall tax. Unlike previous WTax, this one is CSR articulated. No covid gloves won't get windfall and gomen need not spend on MoH and MoD and Home Security. So Wtax won't excape. Quantum? Logical = Govt spending on Moh, MoD etc.

Of those 5 big pharmacy counters only 2 can do pharmacology. Need lots of licenses and established facilities.

If govt gives free vaccine then worthless for any plc to venture into vaccine then Dp might exclude itself cuz v.small margin due to CSR.

So who will risk getting private jabs unless hurry cuz govt gotta queue but genuine.

DrLimKH

424 posts

Posted by DrLimKH > 2020-08-20 21:42 | Report Abuse

Moh issue tender but how many PLC can show all required pharmacology license to qualify ? All the while just Pharma and sometimes Dpharma cuz Pharma knows govt margin small but huge contract means Affin bank provide low cost fund source from Savings accounts.
DPharma has no bank, just PNB who needs higher ROI to pay ASN dividend that can be derived from equity trading.

DrLimKH

424 posts

Posted by DrLimKH > 2020-08-20 21:44 | Report Abuse

I think only Pharma gets the huge contract but small margin which Pharma is used to

Friendship

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Posted by Friendship > 2020-08-20 21:58 | Report Abuse

Titijaya will be the biggest winner as it already has Formal Agreement with Sinopharm

ikenduit

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Posted by ikenduit > 2020-08-20 22:03 | Report Abuse

Well said DrLimKH and totally make sense. I guess the distribution will go under the existing contract with Pharma just like some other drugs and vaccines. MOH decide what and where to buy and Pharma wiill keep and distribute to all government hospital and clinics at predetermined small margin. To keep the cost low and provide free for rakyat. FF is another part yet to be finalized but the candidates obviously only few.

DrLimKH

424 posts

Posted by DrLimKH > 2020-08-20 22:09 | Report Abuse

Affin bank:
LTAT owns 35.4%
Boustead Holdings owns 20.7%

Pharmaniaga:
Boustead Holdings owns 55.93%
LTAT owns 11.12%.

The major owner of Boustead Holdings is itself LTAT.

DrLimKH

424 posts

Posted by DrLimKH > 2020-08-20 22:12 | Report Abuse

pH has 5y LD contract

DrLimKH

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Posted by DrLimKH > 2020-08-20 22:13 | Report Abuse

Only pH has the LD contract cuz only it has the comprehensive infrastructure for LD and investing more in LD

DrLimKH

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Posted by DrLimKH > 2020-08-20 22:13 | Report Abuse

plus 1 more new FF plant.

James89

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Posted by James89 > 2020-08-20 22:17 | Report Abuse

Russia says coronavirus vaccine to be tested on 40,000 volunteers amid safety concerns

https://www.cnbc.com/2020/08/20/russia-coronavirus-vaccine-to-be-tested-on-40000-volunteers-research-institute-claims.html

targetinvest

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Posted by targetinvest > 2020-08-21 00:02 | Report Abuse

current price factor in the current result and future growth potential still is there solid

https://klse.i3investor.com/blogs/targetinvest/2020-08-21-story-h1512450252-Pharma_already_priced_in_2Q_2020_result_and_prepared_for_coming_future_.jsp

targetinvest

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Posted by targetinvest > 2020-08-21 00:02 | Report Abuse

If friday is weakness, then is good buy.. scoop

Posted by secretinvestor8888 > 2020-08-21 00:03 | Report Abuse

tomorrow is the burial day for pharma...... very sad indeed...... gloves will limit up

Posted by secretinvestor8888 > 2020-08-21 00:04 | Report Abuse

think about it.. how come so long already no vaccine? why deadlines so vague? because they have all FAILED...... and no one wants to bear the SHAME of failing..... all the national pride are at stake.... no VACCINE has ever worked since SMALLPOX!!!! EVERYONE KNOWS THAT! IF WE CANNOT SOLVE COUGH AND COLDS HOW TO SOLVE THE WORST OF ALL BUGS? THINK THINK THINK!!!

DrLimKH

424 posts

Posted by DrLimKH > 2020-08-21 01:50 | Report Abuse

gloves completed wave-b bounce. commencing wsve-c down tmr. watch

Posted by Johnng8882020 > 2020-08-21 02:03 | Report Abuse

Dr lim pls go back to your clinic for work. Many patients waiting for u, don't fry phama liao. No hope.

DreamKaiser

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Posted by DreamKaiser > 2020-08-21 03:56 | Report Abuse

Q2 pat 9.98 mil

DreamKaiser

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Posted by DreamKaiser > 2020-08-21 03:57 | Report Abuse

7.5% yoy improvement

DreamKaiser

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Posted by DreamKaiser > 2020-08-21 03:57 | Report Abuse

small increase but okay

DreamKaiser

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Posted by DreamKaiser > 2020-08-21 03:58 | Report Abuse

as long as profit trend maintained

DrLimKH

424 posts

Posted by DrLimKH > 2020-08-21 08:52 | Report Abuse

All may be shocked thinking got profit in vaccine. Govt giving free, many govts. So lowest bidder for FF gets the contract. LD contract already given

Posted by secretinvestor8888 > 2020-08-21 08:54 | Report Abuse

GOOD BYE TO PHARMA

Posted by secretinvestor8888 > 2020-08-21 08:55 | Report Abuse

4.4 THEORETICAL OPENING! BE VERY VERY SCARED

kereta

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Posted by kereta > 2020-08-21 08:56 | Report Abuse

told you all long time adi that this vaccine cannot get much profit, because lives matter!! government sure make sure affordable. Now news come out say wanna free lol

kereta

127 posts

Posted by kereta > 2020-08-21 08:57 | Report Abuse

now this counter leh up kao kao recent QR not spectacular means overbought kao kao. Not gonna fly up, fly down more likely.

Posted by maggigoreng > 2020-08-21 09:11 | Report Abuse

secretinvestor88888 what should we be scared of? please explain

Aiw Siow

214 posts

Posted by Aiw Siow > 2020-08-21 09:20 | Report Abuse

Who say vaccine cant earn money.stupid

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