As mature investor, dont let your ego get in your way, when u realize u r at wrong , just admit it and move on, nobody is 100% correct in every decision u make
At the beginning of the HDD industry, all the drives were made in USA (Ampex, Burroughs, Control Data, IBM, Memorex, Univac, STK), and then also in Europe (Bull, Siemens) and Japan (Fujitsu, Hitachi). But they were high-priced high-margin units for mainframes where the workforce to build them was a small percentage of the global price.
There was a big change when PCs arrived in a more price sensitive market. The first two storage companies to land in Asia were probably Tandon and Micro Peripherals in 1981 to manufacture floppy disk drives in Singapore.
But the real pioneer was Tom Mitchell, who decided in 1982, or only three years after the birth of Seagate, to transfer all production of 5.25-inch HDDs from Santa Cruz, CA, to Singapore. He was highly unsatisfied by the "high cost, marginal quality and poor availability of labor" in California. He also had the good fortune to fall upon a remarkable local engineer, S.C. Tien, to help him in his efforts.
Seagate's success inspired many imitators in Singapore and then in other Asian countries with lower salaries.
Today all HDDs are manufactured in only six Asian countries by the remaining producers: Hitachi GST (acquired by WD) in China, Thailand and Singapore Seagate in China, South Korea (acquired Samsung HDD for a small quantity) and Thailand Toshiba in China, Thailand and the Philippines The manufacture of HDDs cannot be completely robotized and need huge number of workers for assembling components and testing. WD has around 62,000 employees and Seagate 53,000 worldwide, the huge majority in their manufacturing facilities. And you have to pay them. That's why the HDD makers are hiring people with salaries as low as possible and the gap continues to be enormous between USA and these Asian countries.
For the IMF World Economic Outlook Database, October 2010, the average minimum ANNUAL salary for workers was $1,500 in China, $2,053 in the Philippines, $2,293 in Thailand and $4,375 in Malaysia. Per comparison, it's $729 per median WEEKLY earnings in USA according to the United States Bureau of Labor (January 27, 2012) among full-time wage and salary workers not union members. Result: between 9X and 25X more in the U.S.
That's why it's impossible to build plants in North America to be competitive in the HDD industry.
But there is another reason. With few exceptions, all the components into HDDs (disks, heads, motors, PCBs, enclosures, etc) are built in Asia because their makers have installed their factories near HDD assembly plants to offer a better service to their huge customers.
These two reasons explain why we are not going to see any HDDs made in USA in the near future. It's the same for PCs, notebooks, tablets, smart phones and the majority of high-tech devices.
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The manufacture of HDDs cannot be completely robotized and need huge number of workers for assembling components and testing. WD has around 62,000 employees and Seagate 53,000 worldwide, the huge majority in their manufacturing facilities. And you have to pay them. That's why the HDD makers are hiring people with salaries as low as possible and the gap continues to be enormous between USA and these Asian countries.
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calvintaneng
The manufacture of HDDs cannot be completely robotized and need huge number of workers for assembling components and testing.
BUSINESS REVIEW JCY International Berhad and its subsidiaries (“the Group”) is principally involved in the manufacturing of precision components and sub-assembly. For more than two decades, the Group and its predecessors have been a leading component supplier and contract manufacturer for the Hard Disk Drive (“HDD”) industry.
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For more than two decades, the Group and its predecessors have been a leading component supplier and contract manufacturer for the Hard Disk Drive (“HDD”) industry.
IT TAKES 20 YEARS TO SET UP HDD & SSD FACTORIES
VERY HIGH BARRIER TO ENTRIES (GLOVES TAKE ONLY 6 MONTHS)
FOR NEXT 3 to 5 YEARS JCY, NOTION & DUFU WILL DOMINATE THE HDD & SSD Markets
after they build they need a lot of hdd and they buy from stx,wdc, toshiba and the stock of them replenish fast , dufu will need to manufacture a lot for the company
Hard drive storage will soon become part of computing history, says expert
Data storage on hard drives will soon become a thing of the past, according to an expert Shawn Rosemarin, Vice President, R&D and Customer Engineering – Pure Storage. According to Rosemarin, we could see the last hard drive being sold in just about five years from now, PC Gamer reported.
Most computer users have long migrated to cloud storage solutions when it comes to safely storing their data. With content being streamed on smartphones and tablets practically everywhere, there is little reason to own a hard drive these days.
Most laptops and computers too are equipped with solid-state drives, so the question is, where are hard drives even used?
The Last of the Hard Drives
Back in 1956, IBM unveiled the 305 RAMDAC, which was likely the first computer to run a hard drive with a magnetic disk. The entire assembly took up a sizeable portion of the room but offered nothing over 5 MB of conventional storage capacity.
Fast forward 50 years, storage capacities had zoomed to one terabyte, and the size of the drive itself had reduced to the palm. When writing this, one can buy 22 TB storage for regular use and even 26 TB models for use in data centers.
The problem, however, according to Rosemarin, is that the world spends three percent of its energy on data centers, most of which is to spin the hard drive’s disk. Shifting to flash storage could reduce power consumption by as much as 90 percent. This is why the shift away from magnetic storage is inevitable.
The major hurdle, according to Rosemarin, is the cost of flash storage. A 100TB flash storage costs $40,000, which is exorbitant when hard drive storage for similar capacity costs about $2,000. But as with computing hardware, prices tumble very quickly, and the SSD will also meet the same fate, sooner or later.
Whether the last hard drive is sold in 2028 or not could be the topic of a moot discussion, but its place in computing is almost cemented. The timeline could be pushed up even further if newer storage solutions are discovered during this time.
If you’d like to salvage a piece of history, then now might be a good time to pick a new hard drive for memory’s sake. Else you will be left searching for them, just like we do with floppy disks now.
If notion can run that fast and that high, there is no reason JCY cant due to the fact that JCY's hard disc concentration and total revenue from hard disc is much higher than Notion. As mentioned in the QR, the utilization rate is still below 50% and let's assume it goes to 80% coming quarters, i suppose it can run as fast as Notion.
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OK! Calvin