Posted by traderman > 2016-01-04 14:47 | Report Abuse

buy, klci to crash till 1600

Posted by cashflow > 2016-01-04 14:48 | Report Abuse

Strong Megasale globally, haha!

Posted by cashflow > 2016-01-04 14:50 | Report Abuse

Wow, Chinese stock crashed 7%, their trading stopped by regulation! Crazy megasale

Posted by Supergeng > 2016-01-04 14:55 | Report Abuse

RED RED RED ~!!!

Posted by cashflow > 2016-01-04 14:58 | Report Abuse

30 points dropped, but 5-10 cents only, CIMB #$%

Posted by tanbb > 2016-01-04 15:01 | Report Abuse

klci will back to 1400

Posted by cashflow > 2016-01-04 15:04 | Report Abuse

Dow futures down 200 points, we can expect KLCI another 20 points drop tomorrow.

Posted by Supergeng > 2016-01-04 15:08 | Report Abuse

tomorrow drop another 30 points, H5 hoseh liao...at least 0.075 !

Posted by cashflow > 2016-01-04 15:11 | Report Abuse

My last year target was 0.12 for 2016, let's see if can reach 0.1 at least.

Posted by cashflow > 2016-01-04 15:13 | Report Abuse

All put counter goreng huat

Posted by Supergeng > 2016-01-04 15:16 | Report Abuse

yeahh...all H supporter huat til laugh and laugh and laugh... I wish cimb at least can move this counter to 0.1, don't make us disappointed pleaessseeee

Posted by cashflow > 2016-01-04 15:16 | Report Abuse

popcorn, did you buy?

Posted by gohcm > 2016-01-04 15:19 | Report Abuse

maybe can visit previous low at 1500 again with this momentum.

Posted by cashflow > 2016-01-04 15:20 | Report Abuse

if CIMB can push above 0.1, then I will put FD 150k in their account, haha.

Posted by cashflow > 2016-01-04 15:22 | Report Abuse

Saudi's Oil cost is $9/bbl. At this price, is still high for them to gain market share. Price will slump after Iran join, this will push stocks to level we cannot imagine. Let's see how US will defend this agenda.

Posted by cashflow > 2016-01-04 15:23 | Report Abuse

Dow futures slump above 200 points, joining global bear

Posted by Supergeng > 2016-01-04 15:25 | Report Abuse

wahhhhh..........cashflow, seem like u hold a lot of H5 !!!!

Posted by cashflow > 2016-01-04 15:29 | Report Abuse

No la, I have segregated my stakes in other counters too.

Posted by Supergeng > 2016-01-04 15:31 | Report Abuse

cashflow, if u got buy HX, u must HUAT ga si !!

Posted by cashflow > 2016-01-04 15:32 | Report Abuse

Supergeng, no I did not buy HX based on risk measure, but yes I saw it went pretty good.

Posted by cashflow > 2016-01-04 15:36 | Report Abuse

All, first wave just over after Asian Big Boys withdraw equities in Malaysia. Europe and US yet to bomb another wave, so prepare this week for bearish mode.

Posted by goody99 > 2016-01-04 15:38 | Report Abuse

I posted this before, and I would like to post it again.

There are technical reasons why your put warrants that you buy is not moving.

please go to this web site and study first:
https://www.malaysiawarrants.com.my/tools?sp=dwsearch

you need to choose the right ones. For a start, choose the put warrant with very very low exercise ratio. The index plunged almost 30 points today. It should be a good day for put warrants. Those that are moving are those with low exercise ratio

Posted by cashflow > 2016-01-04 15:40 | Report Abuse

goody99, not really man. The bank still play however they like. Based on experience, small volume, less than 10 points, such high ratio put can jump 25 cents. Its con business and one has to swim in it.

Posted by cashflow > 2016-01-04 15:49 | Report Abuse

Oil retreated, Dow futures down 220 points :)

Posted by goody99 > 2016-01-04 15:52 | Report Abuse

Like I said, there are technical reasons how the warrants behave.

Intrinsic value of a warrant = (Current Index - Exercise Price) / Exercise Ratio

That means the lower the exercise ratio, the higher the value.

I noticed FBMKLCI-H5 and FBMKLCI-HZ were almost the same price this morning. Look what happens? Check how much exercise ratio of H5 and HZ.

It's not con business, its mathematics.

Posted by Supergeng > 2016-01-04 15:59 | Report Abuse

Tomorrow will be big hit again ! I wanna scream out for my exciting !!!

Posted by cashflow > 2016-01-04 15:59 | Report Abuse

goody, one can make easy money with mathematics calc only, but there are factors which retailers cannot control. The same mathematics does not explain some of the vigorous movement in past. By default, these warrants has its own formula but the banks can choose to interfere the movement with their funds too.

Posted by goody99 > 2016-01-04 16:02 | Report Abuse

the other factor is demand and supply. If suddenly there is a big demand, it will increase the price of the warrant as well.

Posted by cashflow > 2016-01-04 16:07 | Report Abuse

Yes. So depending on how demanding the buy value is, warrants can spike. People's perception kept changing during bear trend, and a put with short period of time offers risk and reward too.

Posted by cashflow > 2016-01-04 16:08 | Report Abuse

Demand just came in!

Posted by cashflow > 2016-01-04 16:15 | Report Abuse

Dow futures down 250 points! Looks like panic for US market tonight.

Posted by Supergeng > 2016-01-04 16:16 | Report Abuse

DJ future drop nearly 300 points !!!

Posted by popcorn > 2016-01-04 16:17 | Report Abuse

keep buying.. dun stop..

Posted by goody99 > 2016-01-04 16:17 | Report Abuse

I would suggest you just concentrate on the mathematics side, choose the right warrant and get rewarded. Good luck!

Posted by cashflow > 2016-01-04 16:18 | Report Abuse

If China aggressive sell again tomorrow, KLCI can down another 2% - 30 points.

Posted by cashflow > 2016-01-04 16:21 | Report Abuse

HK freaking awesome, almost 50% in 1 day, haha. Thumbs up to the BEAR team.

Posted by goody99 > 2016-01-04 16:28 | Report Abuse

The Exercise Price for HK is 1735; H5 is 1500. Their exercise ratio is almost the same.

but H5 is too far away from the current index, that's why it does not move as much as HK. Again you can use the formula to verify this

Posted by cashflow > 2016-01-04 16:32 | Report Abuse

Buy 1 free 1!

Posted by cashflow > 2016-01-04 16:33 | Report Abuse

Dow futures slumped more than 300 points!!

Posted by cashflow > 2016-01-04 16:36 | Report Abuse

goody99, yes and its a perception on how market could behave. If KLCI can down 30 points, it could also down 50 to 70 points in one of the trading day, getting closer to the exercise price. The closer, the juicy it gets.

Posted by goody99 > 2016-01-04 16:42 | Report Abuse

exactly, that's why we should choose the one that is very close to the current index.

Posted by cashflow > 2016-01-04 16:42 | Report Abuse

Tomorrow KLCI down another 30 to 40 points. Brace bears!

Posted by cashflow > 2016-01-04 16:44 | Report Abuse

Europe also slump!

Posted by Supergeng > 2016-01-04 17:01 | Report Abuse

HK move 10 bits but H5 just move 2 bits, a bit disappointed honestly..

Posted by cashflow > 2016-01-04 17:04 | Report Abuse

H5 resistance higher and BB push on premium counters.

Posted by Supergeng > 2016-01-04 17:10 | Report Abuse

cashflow, u can put 150k into cimb bank lo...HK shot up crazily !

Posted by goody99 > 2016-01-04 17:27 | Report Abuse

Supergeng, they behave exactly as expected. Nothing unusual at all, to be honest.

FBMKLCI-H5 Exercise Price = 1,500.00, exercise ratio = 700
FBMKLCI-HK Exercise Price = 1,735.00, exercise ratio = 666

For HK, once the index drop below 1735, it has value;
For H5, once the index drop below 1500, it has value.

Last year the index ended at 1692.51, and it ended today at 1653.37

HK already has value at current index
H5 is so far away from current index, that's why it does not move as much

Posted by tanbb > 2016-01-04 20:42 | Report Abuse

no power..no vigra..

Posted by kenen > 2016-01-04 21:14 | Report Abuse

When it can have power?

Posted by cashflow > 2016-01-04 22:19 | Report Abuse

Guys, take it easy, buy volume will keep increasing since the bear sentiment is strong.