Posted by Bon > 2018-03-02 13:51 | Report Abuse

Chinese fund again show very little interest today. it has been like this for few days. they are waiting for something to move big but really cant tell what they are waiting for. Maybe duit has some insight to share?

can see bulls left and bears join this week but something is missing to confirm the trend. wave count also have 2 direction..
https://invst.ly/6stde

Posted by thomashan > 2018-03-02 14:07 | Report Abuse

all expert here

Posted by wiki123 > 2018-03-02 14:09 | Report Abuse

rchi, you still short hsi?

Posted by connie > 2018-03-02 14:19 | Report Abuse

bonbon .. not sure apa-apa funds want to do !! i just take hawk's count as b of wave 2 .. if price can legitimately break below the ascending triangle, then confirm end of 4th wave of b and start the last leg down to 5th wave (will monitor price action eg bottoming tail or bullish engulfing etc for exhaustion) .. after which the c upleg of wave 2 shall commence

https://invst.ly/6stkl

Posted by connie > 2018-03-02 14:20 | Report Abuse

bonbon .. there are so many things on your chart !! can hardly read the price action ... hehehehe

Posted by connie > 2018-03-02 14:22 | Report Abuse

alternatively, if break ABOVE the ascending triangle, then i will take it as commencement of c of wave 2 already :) so, nothing to do now except to get answer from mr market !

Posted by joetay > 2018-03-02 14:32 | Report Abuse

bro rchi,

u got buy dji vix b4????

Posted by Bon > 2018-03-02 14:35 | Report Abuse

lol, connie jie jie..soli soli, i clean up. i keep 50ma as 50ma has been a good reference.
https://invst.ly/6stol

Posted by wiki123 > 2018-03-02 14:35 | Report Abuse

re: Joetay, i got... win big, lose big very fast....

Posted by joetay > 2018-03-02 14:37 | Report Abuse

so loser洪福齐天 , where is ur good friend loserorange88????

i find the loser for u, ok????

u go disturb the loser, ok????

Posted by YanHao > 2018-03-02 14:37 | Report Abuse

come on guys, yesterday just mentioned today stop quarreling....

Posted by joetay > 2018-03-02 14:38 | Report Abuse

ok, noted @wiki123.

thx

i was looking at the possibility of using vix etf as a hedge.

Posted by wiki123 > 2018-03-02 14:38 | Report Abuse

volatility period is only certain times, most of the time, you will do better shorting vix...

Posted by connie > 2018-03-02 14:39 | Report Abuse

wah so much better like that ah :) never mind lah, now we just wait what mr market wants ... a very good pattern on 5min chart !! only need to wait breaking ABOVE or BELOW that pattern to confirm the next short-term wave movement

Posted by joetay > 2018-03-02 14:40 | Report Abuse

@wiki123,

i m looking at straight vix etfs.

use for hedge against volatility.

Posted by joetay > 2018-03-02 14:40 | Report Abuse

dont worry @yanhao, i trolling the idiot kite for fun.

lol...........

Posted by Bon > 2018-03-02 14:40 | Report Abuse

connie, nowadays i prefer to trade with more confirmations. slow decision and less profit but better win rate.

Posted by joetay > 2018-03-02 14:42 | Report Abuse

@bon, if use confirmation, will be at least slower by 10% or so.

win rate wise, i really cant comment.

Posted by connie > 2018-03-02 14:43 | Report Abuse

bonbon ... trading with confirmation will get us out of a lot of trouble (unnecessary cut loss trades) but at the same time it may also make us miss some trades !! so, there is never a holy grail and it all depends on individual's risk profile

Posted by joetay > 2018-03-02 14:44 | Report Abuse

@connie,

to kiss, choose the strategy one is most comfortable with, rite?????

Posted by wiki123 > 2018-03-02 14:44 | Report Abuse

http://etfdb.com/etfdb-category/volatility/
http://etfdb.com/etfdb-category/inverse-volatility/

Posted by connie > 2018-03-02 14:45 | Report Abuse

eg i try to catch the bottom of salute .. i saw the 200MA is pretty far away on 1H chart and then there was a nice ascending triangle on 15min chart (also price is above 200MA of 15min) ... if i did not wait for price to break ABOVE that triangle, i wud have to cut loss now ! huhuhu ... same same with hengyuan yesterday

Posted by joetay > 2018-03-02 14:45 | Report Abuse

@connie, u intra-day trader????

Posted by connie > 2018-03-02 14:48 | Report Abuse

yup joe .. choose the right one !!

Posted by joetay > 2018-03-02 14:48 | Report Abuse

sorry @connie for triggering the mad dog barking.

Posted by joetay > 2018-03-02 14:50 | Report Abuse

btw @connie, u using which system for intra-day????

i using n2n and like really not so good.

Posted by wiki123 > 2018-03-02 14:50 | Report Abuse

re: Joe, basically you need a timing model, like example here (posted in June 2015)... look at the month array of dow jones Oct 2015 - it shows panic cycle and volatility month... so u better be careful... that time you can start hedge with volatility (means long volatility)... but becareful with leveraged ones, they got contango... will lose value if you profit already never sell... https://www.armstrongeconomics.com/future-forecasts/outlook-for-the-dow/

Posted by joetay > 2018-03-02 14:53 | Report Abuse

@wiki123, thx for the info.

as i understand, if using vix etfs, not so much of a hassle since no rolling over.

so thats why i m thinking of using vix etfs for hedging.

Posted by Bon > 2018-03-02 14:53 | Report Abuse

aiya..this salute really make me sad. a good company. the management focus more on technology development but seems not so investor friendly.

it reminds me of Frank Piasecki. he founded a great company but spent too much time on development and at the end got kick out of board.

Posted by joetay > 2018-03-02 14:55 | Report Abuse

lol.............

@bon, so thats why yahoo being run to the ground as well.

Posted by wiki123 > 2018-03-02 15:00 | Report Abuse

example, https://drive.google.com/open?id=1srb1HGxJthFxDfrO8BW7zPuqDN3hi8-n
this shows svxy... short VIX product... why short? bcoz most of the time vix is always stay low... during the entire dow jones uptrend, if you keep thinking market top and short, you will lose a fortune... then if you hedge short vix all along, unless you know when to take profit and know the timing model of the volatility period, you will get caught... whatever you earned, you lose back... or you lose more...

Posted by ahboy028 > 2018-03-02 15:01 | Report Abuse

Sifu Pretty, u got sapu LBICAP-wa? Now the warrant still cheat after conversion. Can buy now?

Posted by pretty_life > 2018-03-02 15:03 | Report Abuse

yes i already sapu LBICAP-WA.. this one better than toyoink -WA.. i wish to see 0.25...

Posted by cybergreen > 2018-03-02 15:04 | Report Abuse

rchi i sold all my c1x bought at 0.455 and sold all at 0.465.

Posted by dinosona > 2018-03-02 15:04 | Report Abuse

pretty, what was your entry price for lbicap-wa?

Posted by joetay > 2018-03-02 15:06 | Report Abuse

@wiki123,

thx for the info.

i will study further and see if i can work something out.

new toy for me to play, so must understand more deeply.

Posted by wiki123 > 2018-03-02 15:14 | Report Abuse

u can also try look at UVXY... 3X long volatility, now a bit uptrend ... but if you drag from long time ago like 5 years... it's drowntrend all the way... i know pple make money short UVXY... many times leveraged... they make a lot of money... it has never gone above MA 200... why? bcoz its contango will kill its value...

Posted by wiki123 > 2018-03-02 15:14 | Report Abuse

conclusion, not easy to long volatility to hedge...

Posted by skyhawk > 2018-03-02 15:15 | Report Abuse

connie....this hsif is now doing the "lets twist again" b4 going for the tango ..wakaka!!

Posted by cybergreen > 2018-03-02 15:17 | Report Abuse

ok c1x earn a europe ticket. thanks HSI.

Posted by asakura > 2018-03-02 15:41 | Report Abuse

what if tango half way trip over sendiri leg???

Posted by skyhawk > 2018-03-02 15:47 | Report Abuse

asakura....those who dun know how to tango....sure to trip lor ..LOL

Posted by asakura > 2018-03-02 15:53 | Report Abuse

i always trip over my tail.....

Posted by skyhawk > 2018-03-02 15:55 | Report Abuse

ha...ha...ha...

Posted by skyhawk > 2018-03-02 16:03 | Report Abuse

tango classes will start in the evening session....any1 interested...hehehehe!!

Posted by YanHao > 2018-03-02 16:04 | Report Abuse

me me me! :D so quiet today.

Posted by birkincollector > 2018-03-02 16:04 | Report Abuse

Gocean

Posted by Bon > 2018-03-02 16:05 | Report Abuse

boring day. close all position. happy chap gor meh to all buddies. those yet have partner, go throw mandarin lo

Posted by Kenneth Hng Kah Meng > 2018-03-02 16:11 | Report Abuse

That Is What I am saying

Posted by rchi > 2018-03-02 16:16 | Report Abuse

the coming days n weeks will still be boring...unless you take tango classes frm hawk....or break dance classes frm me (break bumbung then dance)....kikiki