Posted by optimuss > 2014-12-16 19:07 | Report Abuse

reason is simple. all oil n gas sector as a whole has been beaten down to the assumption they are either dead in 2 yrs, or dead next month. yes oil is dropping everyday. ask yourself can oil drop to zero? it has drop to half price now. its a matter of time oil recover above 100. history is your best reference. check it out what happen when oil drop from 145 to 30 in 2008 suprime? they recovered to above 100 within a short period. yes all can come and scold me now.

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48 comment(s). Last comment by OptimusBig 2015-02-23 13:28

optimuss

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Posted by optimuss > 2014-12-16 19:13 | Report Abuse

with US increase interest rate and no more QE. funds r flowing back.

ringgit weaken n weaken. which foreigner want to invest in malaysia property?

property, bank, construction, auto, and consumer sectors all enter into bear zone.

only manufacturing and oil n gas sector can save your portfolio.

MercuryRX

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Posted by MercuryRX > 2014-12-16 19:18 | Report Abuse

I dont think this crisis simple as that...

optimuss

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Posted by optimuss > 2014-12-16 19:19 | Report Abuse

mercury. wait n see la, no need jump into conclusion so soon.

MercuryRX

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Posted by MercuryRX > 2014-12-16 19:21 | Report Abuse

Yupe wait n see.. But not nice to ask contrarian to jump lolz... Sure will kena gao gao...

optimuss

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Posted by optimuss > 2014-12-16 19:23 | Report Abuse

mercury. contrarian call mean= ppls who want to think opposite.

not the contra trading.

MercuryRX

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Posted by MercuryRX > 2014-12-16 19:27 | Report Abuse

I know that, but to the position now is not the best time... Wait first, no rushing

MercuryRX

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Posted by MercuryRX > 2014-12-16 19:29 | Report Abuse

Take*

optimuss

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Posted by optimuss > 2014-12-16 19:32 | Report Abuse

everyone can start to accumulate on the way down, thats the idea. i didnt ask anyone to put all their money tomorrow.

chloe_ts

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Posted by chloe_ts > 2014-12-16 21:28 | Report Abuse

Optimuss, mind to share your strategy to accumulate down?
10% fund each time and average down every 10% drop?
am thinking of accumulating umwog/Skpetrol, maybe perisai. tq :)

murali

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Posted by murali > 2014-12-16 21:36 | Report Abuse

I started my engine oredi...60-70% drop....if it drops further,say 80-90% I would buy more....

murali

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Posted by murali > 2014-12-16 21:37 | Report Abuse

Unless u believe crude oil will become water....

calvintaneng

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Posted by calvintaneng > 2014-12-16 21:41 | Report Abuse

Crude Oil, Palm Oil, Rubber & All Commodities are Cyclical in nature. Prices can move up and down like a Yo Yo.

As long as the Yoyo does not "putus" it will go up and down, and down and up; then up and down in cycles.

It's so fun to buy at bottoms & sell at tops.

First thing first. Make very sure it does not "putus".

Or else the money is gone for good.

optimuss

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Posted by optimuss > 2014-12-16 21:52 | Report Abuse

Chloe. Jus stick to a % that fit your budget n risk appetite. But dont average in less than 10% diff.

Cyborg

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Posted by Cyborg > 2014-12-16 22:04 | Report Abuse

Dont jokes lah...

Cyborg

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Posted by Cyborg > 2014-12-16 22:07 | Report Abuse

No need accumulate, the most important things for retailers to dispose everything..

Posted by saddiqsepakraga > 2014-12-16 22:09 | Report Abuse

Optimus, mind sharing which o&g ctrs look appealing to you....tq...

optimuss

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Posted by optimuss > 2014-12-16 22:11 | Report Abuse

Except perisai. Sumatec n some mickey mouse . The rest all drop to very attreactive level is u think oil would rebound in 2 yrs.

Cyborg

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Posted by Cyborg > 2014-12-16 22:14 | Report Abuse

haha.... joker

optimuss

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Posted by optimuss > 2014-12-16 22:18 | Report Abuse

Chloe. Checked my 1.40am posting

chloe_ts

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Posted by chloe_ts > 2014-12-16 22:18 | Report Abuse

ok thanks optimuss, :)
mickey mouse? haha

chloe_ts

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Posted by chloe_ts > 2014-12-16 22:22 | Report Abuse

optimuss, that is a good counter. thank you! :)

Cyborg

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Posted by Cyborg > 2014-12-16 22:24 | Report Abuse

for those who never experienced 1998, most likely u will experience it soon

Cyborg

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Posted by Cyborg > 2014-12-16 22:27 | Report Abuse

im not saying it will happen , but the risk of crisis equivalent to 1998 is there...

So my humble advice, better dispose everything... the risk are TOO GREAT... and always remember, market is always there...

chloe_ts

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Posted by chloe_ts > 2014-12-16 22:38 | Report Abuse

Cyborg, thanks for your advice :)
will be careful.

murali

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Posted by murali > 2014-12-17 08:50 | Report Abuse

Cyborg, even CI drops abt 10%+ from it's peak, lots of co dropped 50-60% from their peaks, some dropped 70-80% from their peaks in a matter of 3-4 months...I think some are good buys oredi...will it drop another 10-20%? I wouldn't know...I never wish to buy at lowest and sell at highest...but at these levels, some are really good bargains...

murali

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Posted by murali > 2014-12-17 08:52 | Report Abuse

Buy choose solid one,with clean balance sheet and sound biz outlook...

optimuss

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Posted by optimuss > 2014-12-17 09:16 | Report Abuse

Posted by Cyborg > Dec 16, 2014 10:04 PM | Report Abuse

Dont jokes lah...

optimuss

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Posted by optimuss > 2014-12-17 09:17 | Report Abuse

so now everyone believe me??

optimuss

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Posted by optimuss > 2014-12-17 09:29 | Report Abuse

simon84, come and comment here lah. wakakakaak

Posted by RussianRoulete > 2014-12-17 09:46 | Report Abuse

DONT KENA TIPU, BB WANT TO DISTRIBUTE SHARE...

nice1

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Posted by nice1 > 2014-12-17 09:49 | Report Abuse

what o&g is good and at what price

optimuss

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Posted by optimuss > 2014-12-17 15:44 | Report Abuse

so impeccable timing asking everyone to buy yesterday! today all oil n gas fly like crazy..



yet nobody thanks me. so post for what leh?

optimuss

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Posted by optimuss > 2014-12-17 15:46 | Report Abuse

Posted by Cyborg > Dec 16, 2014 10:04 PM | Report Abuse

Dont jokes lah...


Cyborg
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Posted by Cyborg > Dec 16, 2014 10:07 PM | Report Abuse

No need accumulate, the most important things for retailers to dispose everything..



this cyborg can make me laugh for 1 week.

calvintaneng

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Posted by calvintaneng > 2014-12-17 15:46 | Report Abuse

Yes!

No one will say Thank You.

But if you make wrong call - all will post all kinds of negative remarks

Never Mind.

Your good deeds will still help many

fortunebullz

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Posted by fortunebullz > 2014-12-17 15:48 | Report Abuse

Congrate to Optimuss! Good call! Good to know senior sifu showing the way! I am out! Final and out!

optimuss

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Posted by optimuss > 2014-12-17 15:48 | Report Abuse

calvin bro, normal lah. malaysia mah.
jus want to help those injured icu ppls.

optimuss

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Posted by optimuss > 2014-12-17 15:49 | Report Abuse

fortunebullz dont out! we need u.
stay here we can brainstorming ma.

u r my friend. bcos u dont scold bad word. even when offended.

fortunebullz

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Posted by fortunebullz > 2014-12-17 15:53 | Report Abuse

Optimuss bro! I know you are just pulling my legs just like Calvin! We all happy friends here except one that i never what to mention name!

optimuss

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Posted by optimuss > 2014-12-17 15:58 | Report Abuse

i know who la. but everyone must respect fortunebullz bcos he is really oil bird in stock mkt. he may not be right and conflict some times. but how often u get old bird wanna talk here n i3 where most participant are so combative?

fortunebullz

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Posted by fortunebullz > 2014-12-17 16:03 | Report Abuse

Ha! Haix! No mood to fight! Peace! Final message, if you right, make money, no point trying to justify wrong even how right it sounds! Over and out to you Optimuss! Have a cheer day!

optimuss

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Posted by optimuss > 2014-12-17 16:05 | Report Abuse

take care fortunebullz. pls come back to visit us. maybe i will leave soon also. not a fun place.

calvintaneng

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Posted by calvintaneng > 2014-12-17 16:06 | Report Abuse

NO!

ALL MUST STAY ON! DON'T GO AWAY!

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Posted by optimuss > 2014-12-17 16:18 | Report Abuse

Posted by optimuss > Dec 16, 2014 01:40 AM | Report Abuse X

Skpetrol can star accumulate at this price. Detected big shark collecting. Tp 3.00 sap sap water. 3-6 mth.

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Posted by optimuss > 2014-12-17 17:20 | Report Abuse

ok today oil & gas top gainers.

coastal 2.51+26c, 10.5%
muhibah 1.71+13c, 8.2%
uzma 1.48+13c, 9.6%
wzsatu 1.61+13c, 8.8%
skpetrol 2.20+12c, 5.7%
dialog 1.32+6c, 4.8%


sumatec 23.0+5c, 28%
pdz 14.5+3c, 26%
armada 1.08+4c, +3.8%
perisai, 43.5c, +8.8%
knm 44.5c +2c, 4.7%
sona-w 12.5, 14%
daya 16.5, 6.4%
thh 30.0 5.2%
alam 58+3.5, 6.4%

klci? 1682+8pts. 0.48%

fortunebullz

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Posted by fortunebullz > 2014-12-18 00:37 | Report Abuse

Posted by optimuss > Dec 17, 2014 05:20 PM | Report Abuse

ok today oil & gas top gainers.

coastal 2.51+26c, 10.5%
muhibah 1.71+13c, 8.2%
uzma 1.48+13c, 9.6%
wzsatu 1.61+13c, 8.8%
skpetrol 2.20+12c, 5.7%
dialog 1.32+6c, 4.8%


sumatec 23.0+5c, 28%
pdz 14.5+3c, 26%
armada 1.08+4c, +3.8%
perisai, 43.5c, +8.8%
knm 44.5c +2c, 4.7%
sona-w 12.5, 14%
daya 16.5, 6.4%
thh 30.0 5.2%
alam 58+3.5, 6.4%

klci? 1682+8pts. 0.48%

Answer! In stock market, if you are right, you make the money! If you are wrong, not only you lose money but you should just admit you wrong and shut up! And in this case Optimuss is right!
Now, i want to stop posting but just to remind those abusive members to shut up and listen! But a little advise to my bro Optimus, you don't have to whack any senior since you are now in a league of sifus! Continue you contributions! I am silent reader from now on! Please take good care of my cat Leno! Be gentle with this whacky cat!

gray

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Posted by gray > 2015-01-19 14:36 | Report Abuse

Anyone regret not listening to optimuss ?

Posted by OptimusBig > 2015-02-13 18:43 | Report Abuse

optimuss is so humble...until now he hasn't come out to take credit... you ppls go count how much % gain since he recommended oil n gas as a whole sector.

Posted by OptimusBig > 2015-02-23 13:28 | Report Abuse

Read ... those who
doubt optimus

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