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Posted by qqq3 > 2019-02-01 16:46 | Report Abuse

buy rubbish can make u rich...go ahead la, raider....no need to repeat everyday....

Posted by 3iii > 2019-02-01 16:48 | Report Abuse

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Posted by stockraider > Feb 1, 2019 04:31 PM | Report Abuse

Always Set proper way of measuring return, don use dumb & lame excuse and tell grandmother excuse to cover up underperformance loh...!!
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Raider must win.

Don't think like a sore loser.

Rather stupid.

Posted by stockraider > 2019-02-01 16:54 | Report Abuse

QQQ the escapee from Mental Hospital tanjung rambutan out already ah ??

Posted by qqq3 > Feb 1, 2019 04:46 PM | Report Abuse

buy rubbish can make u rich...go ahead la, raider....no need to repeat everyday....

Posted by qqq3 > 2019-02-01 16:56 | Report Abuse

raid,,,enough of u...u should start your own tread ....call it "how I made millions buying rubbish......"

Posted by stockraider > 2019-02-01 17:00 | Report Abuse

As raider already say b4 u cannot stop Nestle advertise milo everyway mah.!

Raider is fine here !!

Thank you...!!

Posted by qqq3 > Feb 1, 2019 04:56 PM | Report Abuse

raid,,,enough of u...u should start your own tread ....call it "how I made millions buying rubbish......"

Posted by 3iii > 2019-02-01 18:03 | Report Abuse

To a high probability, 95% of market participants are short-term in nature.

Essentially, the average market participant views the market as a gigantic virtual casino.

This means when a market participant sees the value of his/her portfolio turn negative, they will be more prone to making irrational decisions.

They make these decisions because they have no understanding of the market or the businesses they are invested in.

This unfortunate human behaviour of avoiding pain gives investors a great opportunity.

Posted by 3iii > 2019-02-01 18:05 | Report Abuse

Remember how feelings and emotions can affect the markets, regardless of fundamentals.

Posted by 3iii > 2019-02-01 18:15 | Report Abuse

Successful investing is not only choosing the right investment, but also waiting for the right investment and holding on to it.

Patiently wait for that one stock that promises to deliver profitable results over its liferime.

These investment opportunities must meet a very specific set of parameters in order to make the grade and therefore, may be few and far between.

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by 3iii > Feb 1, 2019 06:15 PM | Report Abuse

Successful investing is not only choosing the right investment, but also waiting for the right investment and holding on to it.
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that is the most difficult part isn't it? I mean keeping the good shares , the winners long enough.......

me? I am very good in identifying excellent companies. Why not? I have all the necessary experience and knowledge. But, I could never keep the winners. I have always treated the stock market as a place to trade shares...........

Posted by calvintaneng > 2019-02-01 18:40 |

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Posted by qqq3 > 2019-02-01 18:44 | Report Abuse

calvin.....what is in it for you?

U got 2% (of your wealth ) invested in stock market spread over 50 stocks...all dead stocks.....

so, what is your skin?

Posted by qqq3 > 2019-02-01 19:35 | Report Abuse

look at KYY and carimin...quarter profits X 4 already can exceed 100 % by margin.......

1 stock......lol.....

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Posted by qqq3 > 2019-02-01 19:44 | Report Abuse

calvin....next time I will be known as Qr......hope to turn my q into big profits......

Posted by stockraider > 2019-02-02 12:28 | Report Abuse

I see this time 3iii has a very positive, broad minded & moderate comment, possibility due to cny spirit mah....!!

I think can partly due to choysunyeh coming effect loh...!!

Posted by 3iii > Feb 1, 2019 07:36 PM | Report Abuse

I am very open to absorbing new knowledge and thinking.

I have looked at the many styles of investing and speculating in this forum.

Each person is unique and each execute different styles.


Raider
Calvin
KYY
OldTB
icon8888
3iii
pang72
probability
KC
qqq3
JonChoivo
Mr. 1015


Even these 12 names, there are not just 11 strategies. Perhaps, each has 2 strategies for different stocks. Easily the permutations and combinations are many.

Each person is unique. They have arrived at and adopted the methods that suited them best, in their perception.

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Posted by probability > 2019-02-02 23:41 | Report Abuse

actually...now i know why raider can make more money than 3ii...there is a lot to learn from this 2 person.....

3ii...is lacking emotion...empathy...he is using this weakness to his advantage in his investing...where he relies on 'low uncertainty low discount less emotion' strategy...

its very obvious from the way he interacts with raider...and others..its more like as if 3ii is autistic...

3ii is not good at outsmarting the market in 'high uncertainty...high discount..intense emotion' situation...

his weakness is precisely the competitive edge of raider
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Posted by stockraider > 2019-02-02 23:53 | Report Abuse

WHY RAIDER SAY 3iii LONGTERM INVESTMENT WITH BUYING INTO OVERVALUE STOCK PE 50X CANNOT WORK LEH,? BCOS HE IS LYING TO HIMSELF LOH ..!!

Posted by stockraider > Jan 31, 2019 11:49 PM | Report Abuse X

Thats why i say this 3iii talk so many cock loh...!!

It is obvious if u hold on or buy an overvalue stock like having PE 50x...the result u get is under performance mah...!!

This is not new, in fact buffet already explain mah....!!

Thats why longterm growth investor who buy hold, may sometime lose to MOS stock pick mah...!!

Bcos MOS approach do not believe in holding onto overvalue stock mah..!!

Posted by stockraider > Jan 31, 2019 04:46 PM | Report Abuse X

Why raider says longterm investment with PE 50x cannot work leh ??

The folly of buying overvalue growth stock when there is no margin of safety loh...!!

1. With PE 50x....achieving 15% pa return is quite difficult loh, in fact there a high risk of negative return mah...!!
2. 80% success again not likely loh...!! If it is PE 15x with growth, then 80% success rate could be possible but not when PE 50x loh..!!
3. Simple procedure ....yes it is very simple to lose monies if buy overvalue stock mah...!!
4. Carefree maintenance...not true loh....in fact u should worry mah...when your stock is overvalue ...like in case of Padini it crash more than 50% within a few wks loh...!!


Growth investor claim advantage, yes provided u buy at undervalue or fair price n not overvalue like PE 50x loh...!!

Advantages of Long Term Investing into Growth Stocks

80% Success with Stock Selection
15% Annual Portfolio Return
Simple Procedures
Carefree Portfolio Maintenance

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actually...now i know why raider can make more money than 3ii...there is a lot to learn from this 2 person.....

3ii...is lacking emotion...empathy...he is using this weakness to his advantage in his investing...where he relies on 'low uncertainty low discount less emotion' strategy...

its very obvious from the way he interacts with raider...and others..its more like as if 3ii is autistic...

3ii is not good at outsmarting the market in 'high uncertainty...high discount..intense emotion' situation...

his weakness is precisely the competitive edge of raider
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Low risk high return stocks.
The opportunities to buy these do occur, but only infrequently.
Wait patiently. Invest and pounce when available.
At other times, ypur activities should be like the sloth.

Posted by stockraider > 2019-02-03 00:09 | Report Abuse

HOW 3iii LIED LOH...!!
HE CON HIMSELF & OTHERS LOH !!..


Posted by stockraider > Feb 1, 2019 12:07 PM | Report Abuse

it takes 30 yrs....for a 40 baggers may not beat 200% to 300 % gain in 2 yrs mah....!!

Why leh ??
IT is base effect mah....!!
If today i invest Rm 0.70 on insas...it achieve Rm 1.40 gain in 1 yr time, i achieve 100% gain loh...!!

But Say u bought Nestle 20 yrs ago at Rm 5.00 today worth RM 150 ....can u say next yr your nestle worth RM 300.00 for a 100% gain leh ??
Cannot loh...this is call base effect loh...growth investor still look at their investment cost of Rm 5.00...they don understand opportunity cost mah...!! They still say 30 bagger this n that loh..!! But say next yr nestle is Rm 165.00...it is only 10% gain...this growth fellow will tell people he got a 32.5 bagger { using Rm 5.00 base}...but by right it is only 10% gain mah...!!

So for new investor better to start up as margin of safety investor...as the measurement don mislead u mah...!!

If u happen to get a MOS stock than turnout to a growth stock, u just hang on to it...u benerfit bothway loh...MOS rerating gain and Growth stock premium Gain loh...!!

But this is rare ...usually 1 in 50 pick loh...!!

Posted by stockraider > Feb 1, 2019 12:27 PM | Report Abuse X

To illustrate this effect further, we take one step back loh...!!

Say next yr nestle fell to Rm 120....but this growth investor like 3iii, will tell people his nestle is 24 baggers loh...!!
But he lost damn Rm 30....or 20% but he can still be proud to say he make 24 bagger loh....!!

Is this misleading if u still use ur base effect of Rm 5.00 more than 20 yrs ago ??

SO PLEASE THINK CAREFULLY N DON MISLEAD YOURSELF LOH..!!

But Say u bought Nestle 20 yrs ago at Rm 5.00 today worth RM 150 ....can u say next yr your nestle worth RM 300.00 for a 100% gain leh ??
Cannot loh...this is call base effect loh...growth investor still look at their investment cost of Rm 5.00...they don understand opportunity cost mah...!! They still say 30 bagger this n that loh..!! But say next yr nestle is Rm 165.00...it is only 10% gain...this growth fellow will tell people he got a 32.5 bagger { using Rm 5.00 base}...but by right it is only 10% gain mah...!!

Posted by stockraider > Feb 1, 2019 12:31 PM | Report Abuse X

So if u R a newbies just started investment can u be as proud as 3iii, bought into Nestle at Rm 150 and the share price now at Rm 120, and say 24 bagger gain leh ??

The answer is NO loh...!!

Thats why raider say u need to invest base on MOS and mark to market every yr loh....!!

This is to avoid the false sense of confidence like 3iii and philip mah.....!!

To illustrate this effect further, we take one step back loh...!!

Say next yr nestle fell to Rm 120....but this growth investor like 3iii, will tell people his nestle is 24 baggers loh...!!
But he lost damn Rm 30....or 20% but he can still be proud to say he make 24 bagger loh....!!

Is this misleading if u still use ur base effect of Rm 5.00 more than 20 yrs ago ??

SO PLEASE THINK CAREFULLY N DON MISLEAD YOURSELF LOH..!!

But Say u bought Nestle 20 yrs ago at Rm 5.00 today worth RM 150 ....can u say next yr your nestle worth RM 300.00 for a 100% gain leh ??
Cannot loh...this is call base effect loh...growth investor still look at their investment cost of Rm 5.00...they don understand opportunity cost mah...!! They still say 30 bagger this n that loh..!! But say next yr nestle is Rm 165.00...it is only 10% gain...this growth fellow will tell people he got a 32.5 bagger { using Rm 5.00 base}...but by right it is only 10% gain mah...!!

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Posted by stockraider > 2019-02-03 00:25 | Report Abuse

IF U READ THE ABOVE RAIDER EXPLAINATION...U UNDERSTAND THIS 3iii IS MISLEADING U WITH HIS GROWTH INVESTMENT RETURN MAH..!!

RAIDER UNDERSTAND BCOS RAIDER DO PRACTISE GROWTH INVESTMENT BUT RAIDER UNDERSTAND & DO NOT MISLEAD LOH...!!

Dear Philip,

Raider has nothing against your strategy of buying into QL heavy, when it is at PE 15 to 17 time when price is around Rm 2.00 to Rm 4.00 loh..!!

In fact raider also use your strategy bought into HL Bank, HLFG, Panasonic, PPB, Hein & ajinomoto...in fact this stock is giving me 5 to 20 baggers loh....but i did not talk about it, bcos right now i think is on the high side, i did not sell either bcos i m still comfortable even at current high price is still can give me 6% to 10% pa loh..!!

Raider is just emphasising at the current PE 50x above Rm 6.50, should not chase anymore for the reader mah....!!
I did the same on my own portfolio too, i m not me targeting specifically NESTLE AND QL only mah....!!

Growth strategy works and less risky, if u can get stock at reasonable fair price like Pe 15x to 17x mah, not easy to find & rare mah.!!...if u look at 100 counters maybe got opportunity of 1 can qualify loh...!!

For newbies if u want to out perform u must continue to look at new QL, new Nestle and New Hong Leong bank mah....!!

As for INSAS raider need to correct u loh, it is already making good monies right now, and it has been a few yr making monies already mah.!

Posted by stockraider > Feb 2, 2019 03:02 PM | Report Abuse X

I already told u , i invest based on margin of safety and growth investment the last time mah...!!

As growth investment is hard to get bcos i set very high standard, don get much opportunity to buy so i seldom swing compare to my margin of safety stock loh...!!

My longest stock holding exceed 20 yrs for my growth stock investment mah....!!

I do not treat maybank as a growth stock bcos it is own by bumi, i prefer hongleong bank bcos Quek Leng Chan is the owner mah...!!

I bought My HL Bank in 1998 loh...!!

Posted by (S = Qr) Philip > Feb 2, 2019 02:55 PM | Report Abuse

Funny. Suddenly Stockraider is a long term investor.

Unbelievable, your actions, investments and your words don't link at all. From buying into hengyuan, BJCORP, jcy, etc you suddenly become long term investor in HL Bank, aji etc?

Funny, I bet you also own 25% of Maybank right?

Good luck. I knew you were bs, totally convinced now.

Posted by stockraider > 2019-02-03 00:42 | Report Abuse

Thats is the problem with 3iii mah, if raider shows great achievement he envy loh...n slander raider with all sort of accusation loh..!!

So how we can sort and set thing in order with this fucking 3iii leh ??

1. To challenge 3iii with a stock pick contest, which i have done earlier but he has no balls to take up.
2. Challenge 3iii with a wager loh...if raider has proof that raider hold Hong Leong Bank since 1998, can he donate Rm 50k to charity leh ?

IF 3iii has no balls, to take up the challenge pls don simply slander raider and fuckoff with your nuisance loh...!!

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My longest stock holding exceed 20 yrs for my growth stock investment mah....!!

I do not treat maybank as a growth stock bcos it is own by bumi, i prefer hongleong bank bcos Quek Leng Chan is the owner mah...!!

I bought My HL Bank in 1998 loh...!! >>>>

First time ever that I know of raider invested into HLBank.

Now we can at least follow him with some accuracy.


Often, he declared he had bought into a stock and now it had risen so much and so much. But it was not possible to substantiate his claims.

Therefore, I never gave him much credibility for all these nuisances.

Posted by (S = Qr) Philip > 2019-02-03 01:27 | Report Abuse

Ok raider, I believe you are right. You have long term vision in buying hong leong bank in 1998. Impressed.

I give you benefit of the doubt, as naming hong leong is good enough to earn my respect.

Now for a real question, how much of INSAS do you own currently? When did you buy it? What price did you buy it at? So at least got some clarity.

SSLEE hold for a long time, he got conviction in insas.

Since you say insas hathaway, when you really bought (if you say you bought following our stock pick competition 4th january I dont believe lo), how big was your position?

Really not measuring dicks here, but just want to know how convinced you are in your 2 year bet in insas.

Posted by stockraider > 2019-02-03 01:55 | Report Abuse

I seldom disclose how much stock i hold, but as an exception here my holding now about 400k units only a fraction of what i used to own loh..!!

Actually i m quite late in the game on insas, I only notice the wonder of INSAS, when SSLEE, highlighted the wonder of insas, and that reminded me to buy back mah...as i have dispose all my insas of about 1900k units in 2014, at around rm 1.10 per share.

I started to buy around Rm 0.65...i think my average cost now is about Rm 0.685 although my bet with u is at Rm 0.67.

Insas is presently not my biggest portfolio now, i chose insas to bet with u, bcos it is the most complete, balance & ideal margin of safety stock i can find right now...loh...!!

In fact, i should keep quiet and not to talk so much on insas, since i have not collected enough, but since insas pick is from compliment of sslee, as without him, i would be most likely to overlook, this wonderful MOS stock...thus i don mind sharing loh..!!

Furthermore SSlee have a big position, i think he don mind me sharing with I3 readers loh....!!

Posted by 3iii > 2019-02-03 06:04 | Report Abuse

Raider is thinking stupidly.

Investing is a very personal journey.

He is going beserked unnecessarily.

We are just sharing.

Are we competing?

Am I impoverishing him?

Is he enriching me?






Once again, the best advice for raider.


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Posted by qqq3 > Feb 2, 2019 11:19 PM | Report Abuse

raid,...u have troll enough already ......
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Raider
Please heed the sincere good advice of qqq3.
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Posted by 3iii > 2019-02-03 06:25 | Report Abuse

The challenge in my investing is WITHIN.

How much time to spend on my investing?

How can this time be efficiently employed?

What is my performance? Is this meeting my investing objectives?

What have I done right?

What have I done wrong?

What lessons have I derived from both my right and wrongs?

How can my investing results improve further aiming for higher returns without increasing the risk of my portfolio?



Over the laat 3 years or so:

Which similar minded investors should be in my core investing very small group? Today, this is an informal group of 3 (including me).

How can and how has this group performed and their performance improved to date?

What stocks have each member recommended, the group dissected and who bought or did not buy and their peeformances?





Yes, I have mentioned repeatedly that the challenge of investing is WITHIN and not from without. The risk in my investing is I.





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Once again, the best advice for raider.


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Posted by qqq3 > Feb 2, 2019 11:19 PM | Report Abuse

raid,...u have troll enough already ......
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Raider
Please heed the sincere good advice of qqq3.
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I seldom disclose how much stock i hold, but as an exception here my holding now about 400k units only a fraction of what i used to own loh..!!

Actually i m quite late in the game on insas, I only notice the wonder of INSAS, when SSLEE, highlighted the wonder of insas, and that reminded me to buy back mah...as i have dispose all my insas of about 1900k units in 2014, at around rm 1.10 per share.

I started to buy around Rm 0.65...i think my average cost now is about Rm 0.685 although my bet with u is at Rm 0.67.

Insas is presently not my biggest portfolio now, i chose insas to bet with u, bcos it is the most complete, balance & ideal margin of safety stock i can find right now...loh...!!

In fact, i should keep quiet and not to talk so much on insas, since i have not collected enough, but since insas pick is from compliment of sslee, as without him, i would be most likely to overlook, this wonderful MOS stock...thus i don mind sharing loh..!!

Furthermore SSlee have a big position, i think he don mind me sharing with I3 readers loh....!!

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Wishing raider all the best in his investing or sailang into insas.

Posted by (S = Qr) Philip > 2019-02-03 07:10 | Report Abuse

Dear raider,

This I can respect. You do understand why right? This at least gives us very much information into how you structure your investments and your buying details.

For you to have bought at those prices, it is only most likely in the early January period only. Meaning you would have bought not after material information from quarterly report, or heavy insider purchase or heavy selling by retail investors. Information like this is interesting and useful to me. From what I can understand, you really do practise what you preach, where you buy based on nta, PE and market price. And not based on revenue (lowest quarter since 2009), and earnings (one of the lowest 1st quarters since 2009). I believe you use market price to dictate what you buy or sell, which I can understand and appreciate. Spending 280k to speculate on this for 2 years seems ok, as the 52 week low was 0.64. and the cap of 0.99 that it leaked for 52 week high. The big question is: will you put another 280k if the share price goes to rm1.0? And what or how confident are you the share price will rise upon 8 quarters of slow results?

I bought 50k@6.25 in Dec 2019, not right after quarterly report,
But after the share price has dropped from 7.28 to 6.10, I purchase after support by insiders, and also because QL had the highest revenue generated of all time with guidance to higher revenues incoming from family Mart and holiday season in 4th quarter.

21-Dec-2018 Acquired 600,000 6.229
Registered Name Ruby Technique Sdn. Bhd.
Nature of Interest Indirect Interest
Consideration RM6.2288 per share
The chia brother's bought their shares personally on this date. I simply joined people who had far more money than kyy,

This is how I choose to do my investing. By listening to what the management are doing and how the company is acting.

I find that I can finally have a proper meaningful conversation with Stockraider, especially when he is not capslocking everyone and drowning all comments.

Maybe it is really the Chinese New year effect. Happy cny Stockraider. You have gained my respect. I respect a man who has given his peers a chance to properly review his investing methods.

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Actually i m quite late in the game on insas, I only notice the wonder of INSAS, when SSLEE, highlighted the wonder of insas, and that reminded me to buy back mah...as i have dispose all my insas of about 1900k units in 2014, at around rm 1.10 per share.

I started to buy around Rm 0.65...i think my average cost now is about Rm 0.685 although my bet with u is at Rm 0.67.

Insas is presently not my biggest portfolio now, i chose insas to bet with u, bcos it is the most complete, balance & ideal margin of safety stock i can find right now...loh...!!

Posted by (S = Qr) Philip > 2019-02-03 07:40 | Report Abuse

Like I said, I take those who say they can time their investments chun chun with a huge grain of salt.

I await Calvin tan to come out with material disclosure in the pump and dump blogs on when he bought the stocks he is pumping and at what price. Especially for his latest pump article sasbadi and anjoo steel. For him to promote so many stocks, I really have to wonder how he monitors his stocks and how well he is really doing. For someone who paid 4 cents for talam, he tells you to buy, but he never informs you if he cut lost or still holding to 35% losses.

and icon to do the same thing. What is 2.5% actually, when did you buy LCTITAN (I believe you said you bought at 4.15, after quarter earnings.) Again I can learn many things from this, because management say their naphta feedstocks price was much higher due to sudden increase and holding old inventory at higher price vs crude price dropping to lows causing a margin squeeze. This should correct in next few quarters if things are true. However what is your conviction? How much actually did you buy so we may understand how strongly you believe in this speculation. And after you sell will you inform your readers why you left? There is so much to learn from just simple short sentence. We can analyze your investing strategy and see if really works long term. How about some clarity on your pump stock into success transformer? Made up numbers is fine, no need to verify your portfolio.

I believe there is a reason why material shareholders need to announce to bursa their purchases and sales so as to avoid fraud and cbt. And to give investors advance notice after the deed on what is going in the company.

If material shareholders do that, shouldn't bloggers and respected sifu like icon, choivo, kcchongz, CalvinT also have the responsibility to announce how much they buy, when they buy and when they sell as well?

Don't you have a responsibility to treat your readers to some honesty? After all, it is just made up numbers? You don't need to announce to bursa, but at least you can announce to i3ivestor.

I respect koon because at least his name shows up on the annual report of major shareholder.

After all it is not the gazillions you make that matters. It is the strategy, the theory and the conviction with which you invest that shows your character.

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Posted by 3iii > 2019-02-03 22:37 | Report Abuse

Why KYY's investing is high risk?

Because his portfolio is levered and crash-prone.

Posted by 3iii > 2019-02-03 22:45 | Report Abuse

The value of all the world's equities is $67 trillion.

All of the issued bonds in the world total $88 trillion - nearly one-third more than global equities.

Posted by 3iii > 2019-02-03 22:51 | Report Abuse

Choose an investing strategy that is superior in the long run.

Jumping from one system to another frustrates the growth potential of your savings.

Don't accept a strategy unless it works for you.

Posted by 3iii > 2019-02-03 23:04 | Report Abuse

The Buffett Buffer

Keeping your losses small during bear markets means you can lag the market index during the bull markets but beat it over the entire bear-bull market cycle.

Posted by 3iii > 2019-02-03 23:21 | Report Abuse

Without 15 years' evidence, past good performance doesn't predict anything.

Track records of 1 to 10 years are too short to be predictive; outperformance for 15 years improves the odds - but is no guarantee.

Posted by probability > 2019-02-03 23:23 | Report Abuse

so far i only hear of 3ii and Philip who had used paint dry strategy to make fantastic money...how about the others?

are they really quiet because the dont need to fan to dry their paint faster...or

is it because...

we are only able to hear the sperm which against all odds managed to penetrate the ovum...gained an able body to voice and proclaim loudly its success was because of a strategy it had used all along the way after being ejaculated?

Posted by 3iii > 2019-02-03 23:27 | Report Abuse

Past bad performance does tend to predict future bad performance.

Bad performance for as little as one year is associated with future bad performance.

Posted by 3iii > 2019-02-03 23:34 | Report Abuse

Judge portfolios by periods no shorter than complete bear-bull (or bull-bear) market cycles.

Heavily promoted 3 and 5 year ratings are useless in choosing a strategy.

Posted by 3iii > 2019-02-03 23:43 | Report Abuse

Outstanding investors don't have to beat the market durìng bull markets.

They outperform by keeping their losses small during bear markets.

Posted by probability > 2019-02-04 00:19 | Report Abuse

does a strategy actually exist...to predict such long term performance of a company? or is it mere luck...

if we have 1000 participant in an option of 100 stock to chose....we will definitely find 2 or 3 participants with fixed selection of stocks (<5)...making enormous gain by holding for a long period...

but was it because they had the insight all along...

is there such a mechanism to predict this?

i doubt there is...

Posted by probability > 2019-02-04 00:19 | Report Abuse

if such a mechanism exist...if they have such a foresight...it is these people who should confidently be telling everyone in the world...to invest on the company they had invested...share their insight at an early stage...

surely they had good arguments (logic) to support their believes...a machine which has such long range missile trajectory with such high accuracy...

would that be so hard to sell?

Posted by probability > 2019-02-04 00:21 | Report Abuse

i can agree on that raider....any stocks you need to closely monitor...you constantly need to check its prospects (value) vs price.....there is no stock which you can just invest and close your eyes confidently and expect a good CAGR in few years.....

many seem to promote the selection of the 'sail boat' as the crucial factor to reach the destination...but the truth is its the constant alertness..sensitivity of the sailor on the weather & wind direction...which ensures success.


Posted by stockraider > Feb 4, 2019 12:08 AM | Report Abuse

Yes n no loh...!!

To me there are only 2 way of making sustainable earnings loh...!!

1.0 Based on margin of safety investment like deep undervalue share price & cash rich stock like insas that i m promoting here for safe investor.

2.0 Buy into Growth stock at fair value like what Philip and 3iii had been doing.
But do not to fall in love with these stocks, when it is overvalue like when high PE 50x, low dividend yield which cannot justify the value u need to rethink.. to brake and reverse loh...!!
Stock cannot be overvalue forever loh....!!

If u look at raider's growth stock Hlbank, Hlfg, Hein, Panasonic, Ajino all are reasonable value with Pe 16x to 25x and dividend yield 2% to 6% pa loh..!!
Yet i feel shy to promote them bcos my expectation is low target of 8% to 10% pa hurdle, however psychology i do not take action to sell bcos i have been siting on big gain, enjoying the fruits planted long time ago.

I m not saying QL is a wrong investment going fwd, bcos it is yet to be proven , right now mah....!! But over paying is a sin in investment loh...!!

That is said, newbies need to identify new growth stock...if u want to invest like what Philip & 3iii are doing & not based on the current portfolio, unless there are selldown to a reasonable level.