MALAYSIA SMELTING CORPORATION

KLSE (MYR): MSC (5916)

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Last Price

2.35

Today's Change

-0.11 (4.47%)

Day's Change

2.35 - 2.44

Trading Volume

534,300

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GreenMinerMSC

MSC had run sharply ahead of 1Q2024 results, which would not have been able to match the superb results of $36mil in 1Q2023. Tin prices in the 1Q2024 were subdued at 25k-26k oer ton. So those who sold into that powerful move did well as the results were only $18 mil profit for 1Q2024 ; 50% lower than 1Q2023 !! But since end March 2024, tin prices have skyrocketted to 32k-34k per ton, and now doing 33,300 per ton. Meanwhile the stock collapsed from 3.47 to 2.48 , a drop of $0.99 in one month !! So now is a good time to accumulate after a big fall in share prices and a sharp increase in tin prices for the 2nd Quarter 24 , to anticipate a good 2Q2024 result out early Aug 2024. The following insights were announced/revealed/noticed during the Conference Call shortly after the 1Q 2024 results :
1 Tin division profits will be higher from higher tin prices
2 Sale of slag will bring in maiden revenue from new source
3 Smelting of intermediates going on with earnest.
4 Smelting of in house tin will provide good revenues
5 Smelting of 3rd party local sourced tin also going on
6 Smelting of foreign imported tin (from Congo etc ) resumed providing smelting division with good business
7 The decommissioning of the Butterworth smelter will reduce MSC's overall costs by 30%. Sure to be a positive boost to the bottomline.
The 2Q2023 net profit was $28 mil.
I believe with all the positive catalysts mentioned above, the 2Q2024 net profit should be higher than 2Q2023.

1 month ago

hw0706

FV shall be below 2.40.

1 month ago

KClow

w0706

FV shall be below 2.40.

19 hours ago

PLZ DONT TALK KOK HERE LA

1 month ago

GreenMinerMSC

Somebody makan 130k at 3.00 in one order !! Got committed bull entering the stock 😀

1 month ago

GreenMinerMSC

If it clears 3.47 recent high , will head to close the gap at 3.89

1 month ago

diuleiloumei

If...if...if....

1 month ago

serbatipu

Tin price drop liao

1 month ago

VincentTang

Tin price big drop to 33568 now

1 month ago

GreenMinerMSC

Looks like MSC stock price is following Tin's price very closely 😏. Malacca Securities report mentioned that we are in a commodity upcycle , that should be positive for MSC. Also the US$ is in a gradual spiral downwards with Powell signalling US rate cuts looming in the horizon , and since commodity prices move inversely to the US$ movements, tin is poised for better days ahead. Stay tuned for more exciting updates as we keep an eagle eye for fund flows out of the US mkts to the deeply undervalued Emerging Mkt space.

1 month ago

VincentTang

Tin price big drop to 32827 now

1 month ago

VincentTang

Tin price big drop to 31708 now

1 month ago

speakup

Aduh!!!!!
Boo chow

1 month ago

troy88

Tin is a damn volatile commodity. If not good at trading this commodity then better stay out

1 month ago

KClow

Post removed.Why?

1 month ago

GreenMinerMSC

All metals getting hammered. Tin is no exception ; now 29k level

1 month ago

fregend

waiting cheap ticket

1 month ago

apalumaolagi

ASP used for coming Qr should be around USD 32k, compare to previous Qr USD 26k.
additional USD 6k, Qr result on Aug, should be quite solid

1 month ago

goldmanbull

Can hoot now?

3 weeks ago

abc333

QR shall record big profits.

3 weeks ago

fregend

wow bleeding now

3 weeks ago

GreenMinerMSC

Affin Hwang came out with a note saying earnings will come in between 20-25 mil for 2Q24. They maintain their Sell recommendation with an unchanged target price of $2.30. They think the mining side will do well but the smelter side will not as their tolling operations will be impacted by the export ban/constraints of tin from Myanmar and Indonesia.

3 weeks ago

zildjian

come on 1.800

3 weeks ago

kl_guy

next support level rm2.38 at 200MA.

3 weeks ago

kl_guy

look like break 200MA...next support rm2.05.
I feel this is over sold .

2 weeks ago

fregend

tin price start rebound, war will spike commodity?

2 weeks ago

GreenMinerMSC

MSC today closes lobang formed at $2.20 (08/03/2024) and $2.22 (11/03/2024) just when it started to blast off ahead of 1st Q 2024 earnings !!

2 weeks ago

kl_guy

look like break 200MA...next support rm2.05.
I feel this is over sold .

2 weeks ago

Limcken

Game over

2 weeks ago

kl_guy

this might be a good chance to pick up. When everyone is bearish , is it time to be bullish.

2 weeks ago

0PTech

i dump my idea on 1.68 and will get in somewhat around 1.29.

2 weeks ago

abc333

tin price break MA20, rebound to 31300 , more to come

2 weeks ago

fregend

seems like many get washed out

1 week ago

GreenMinerMSC

MSC doing 2.43 !! Understand Conference Call 15th Aug.

1 week ago

SuperTrump69

Nice monday

1 week ago

GreenMinerMSC

Con Call held this morning was generally positive with a stronger 2nd half ahead. Smelting ops back to normal after the rebricking exercise mid May to mid July , which shut down the furnace. Supply shortage of 3rd party ore for smelting also saw some easing. Smelting profits should rebound strongly in 2Half 2024. Tin prices sholud remain strong as demand outstrips supply globally.

1 week ago

Seeking

What about the few thousand tons of intermediates stock? Can’t smelting process them?

1 week ago

abc333

civil war in myanmar and congo turn worst, tin price might sky rocket like 2022

1 week ago

GreenMinerMSC

Smelting of intermediates going on. There was a deduction of 12 mil in 2Q results under Eliminations/Adjustments which will be added back in 3Q.

1 week ago

fregend

seems like tin price is slowly climbing back to 35k, MSC should have better q ahead since done rebricking earlier

1 week ago

Seeking

Thanks Greenminer. How co value the intermediates?

1 week ago

GreenMinerMSC

Mgt did not give any details on the value of the intermediates.

6 days ago

fregend

can test 2.50 level today?

6 days ago

fregend

soon will test 2.60 in near future

5 days ago

GreenMinerMSC

Profit for 3Q2023 was only 12 mil. This is a low hanging fruit for MSC to gobble up !! 4Q2023 profit was even lower at 9 mil , so the next 6 months should see some sustained buying interest as these numbers will be easily overcome with better results hopefully at several multiples times the 3Q and 4Q 2023 numbers.

5 days ago

Seeking

Green miner, it’s a norm that annual repair is 3months?

5 days ago

GreenMinerMSC

It was from mid May to I think mid July. They acquired 2 rotary furnaces to take over the smelting of intermediates when the main furnace was undergoing rebricking. The problem is that one of the 2 also broke down , hence the lower amount of smelted products. They have now acquired a 3rd Rotary furnace as a back up to the backup. Hopefully, in future the Rotary furnaces can seamlessly continue the smelting work when the main furnace is under maintenance. I think they are also trying to reduce the time taken to rebrick by sourcing for new materials. This should address the once a year rebricking issue.

4 days ago

fregend

thanks for sharing greenminer

4 days ago

Seeking

Thanks greenminer. Look like the state of the art furnace not efficient. Down time 3 months, quite difficult to make good profit for smelting division.

4 days ago

Seeking

Hopefully from now onward no more 3months maintenance.

4 days ago

abc333

LMEselect Tin 3 Month, USD/mt
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Latest:32,900
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2 days ago

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