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An informative post with the facts and sound arguments. Thank you for your effort. I have some Petron shares since I believe it offers the best value, when compared to Petronas Dagangan. After reading this post, I'll be adding more should the price come down for whatever reason (happens often enough when it loses 20 sen or so in a day). May not look like it now but I feel Petron has a much better chance of returning 100% or close to capital returns than PetDagang.
Dear sslee, you write to them, but do they ever reply to you?
Good Article SSlee . Hope they reply your email and admit their glaring mistake- where they have totally ignored Petron's lucrative retail business.
Getting a reply is not the reason for writing in the first place.
Like Mandela, sslee might be required to habitate Kajang [neighbour to Prisoner Ku] for 20 years [when Soap Bright prosecutes him for Criminal Defamation] before a Real Change takes place.
Mr Lee, Fantastic coverage by you!! To IB analyst and Petron...
Perhaps a cc of your coverage and a call to the head of the IB analyst department will be great..
Contact Edge !
Previously Petron Malaysia IR did reply to my further questions on AGM minutes as follow:
Dear Mr Lee,
Our apologies for not reverting to you earlier in relation to your email request. Management had considered and deliberated at length your request but we concluded that we are unable to accede to your request to table the questions (you had posed), to the Board. It is our position that the questions that had been submitted in writing by you prior to the AGM, had been addressed (along with similar questions on the day from other shareholders) to the extent possible.
Please note that at the Annual General Meeting (AGM), it was made clear to all shareholders present that there are certain questions that we cannot answer or entertain – questions ranging from forecasts/projections, business of other companies to providing sensitive information that is necessary to keep confidential for the Company’s benefit. You will also note that in the summary of the AGM proceedings that we posted on the website, we had re-iterated the same.
As a shareholder, you will appreciate that as a listed company Petron Malaysia Refining & Marketing Bhd is in a unique position in the downstream oil & gas industry in Malaysia with it being an integrated oil refinery and retail business whereas our competitors are ether unlisted (and thus not bound to make any disclosures) or where listed, are either a refining business or a retail business. In such a competitive market, managing our proprietary information, our strategy for expansion etc are sensitive information that if made known publicly, could be (and in some cases have been) detrimental to the Company. That then translates to the detriment of shareholders.
At the AGM, whilst there were some questions asked in advance (and then far more at the meeting itself), we kept to the policy of not addressing certain areas. Indeed at the AGM, we even provided shareholders an additional day to email in questions they could not ask at the AGM due to time constraints and yet we just received about three (3) emails – two of which we mere comments/suggestions for future meetings. Shareholders at the meeting (being informed of the limits) did accept our explanation and asked many other probing questions from operations to financials to corporate matters etc that we addressed. Considering the healthy and engaging rapport we had with the shareholders, (and their obvious support in terms of votes later cast by them), we believe shareholders present were satisfied with our responses to questions they posed.
Unfortunately, you were unable to attend the AGM in person and we hope to see you next year. Thank you.
General Counsel / Company Secretary / Manager-Human Resources/
Petron Oil & Gas International Sdn Bhd (970208-X)
Petron Malaysia Refining & Marketing Bhd (3927-V)
Petron Fuel International Sdn Bhd (4527-V)
Petron Oil (M) Sdn Bhd (8823-D)
End result is same as Jaks. => No answer.
The difference is that Petron is very polite about it.
=> The Jaks enkresshi was positively hostile, very natural for the Krogan Empire ... ...
The phrase. "we keep telling you." was that what they said? really make me laugh out loud.
Will still make me laugh whenever I read it again.
Exact Klingon Hengresshi From Jaks.
[ We have explained this to you many times.
The truth is that despite our explanations you have chosen to misinterpret and manipulate the facts entirely on your own accord, fancy and personal agenda.
you should have ought to know as an investor yourself.
Your statement that you were led to belief anything at all is wrong.
We have repeatedly answered that ]
if you need comic relief in this dark covid world now, please drop by sslee blogs to read company replies.
Jaks is history. I pity my good friend Aseng still holding so much faith/hope with JAKS
Petron Corp just posted a way below expectation Q3 results. The group (Included PetronM) only posted net income of 500 millions peso for Q3!
I just check Petron Corp website: No Q3 result yet.
So may I know where you get the information:
The group (Included PetronM) only posted net income of 500 millions peso for Q3!
Our Financial Reports
Quarterly Reports on SEC Form 17-Q
2nd Quarterly Report
1st Quarterly Report
Posted 8.2 billions for first 9 months (First half 7.7 billions)
Industry leader Petron Corporation maintained its strong financial performance in the first nine months of the year, reporting a consolidated net income of P8.2 billion, up 64% from last year’s P4.99 billion.
Combined sales volume from Petron’s Philippines and Malaysian operations as well as the Group’s Singapore trading subsidiary grew 37% to 80.4 million barrels from 58.8 million barrels in the same period of 2021, reflecting higher fuel demand. In the Philippines, total sales volume jumped by nearly 30%.
The average price per barrel of Dubai crude dipped by $11 per barrel to US$96.88 in the third quarter due to recession fears. Despite the correction in the third quarter, prices of finished fuel products remained elevated compared to last year. With the volume increase, Petron reported consolidated revenues of P631.1 billion in the first nine months, more than double that of last year’s P291.6 billion.
The demand recovery in most economies supported the continued strength of regional refining cracks resulting in the overall improvement in margins. Petron’s operating income stood strong at P16.5 billion, 23% more than 2021’s P13.4 billion. These improvements, however, were tempered by the increase in financing cost due to the unprecedented strengthening of US dollars against the peso and the successive hikes in interest rates.
“Despite uncertainties from geopolitical conflicts affecting the industry, we are pleased to note that our recovery is still on track. We are working hard so we can end the year strong and remain committed to providing consumers and industries with quality fuel products they need,” said Petron President and CEO Ramon S. Ang.
Petron is the Philippines’ largest oil company, operating the only remaining refinery that is capable of providing nearly 40% of the country’s petroleum requirements. Petron operates a 180,000-barrel-per-day refinery in Bataan, 30 terminals, and over 2,000 service stations nationwide.
Petron has recently obtained the go-signal from its shareholders to allow the company to construct and operate a coco-methyl ester plant and to secure relevant permits.
Petron also acquired a PME (palm methyl ester) plant in Malaysia to serve as an internal source for its biodiesel products. Earlier this year, the plant has undergone capacity expansion to support the higher demand for biodiesel in the country.
Petron’s operating income stood strong at P16.5 billion, 23% more than 2021’s P13.4 billion
Interesting: Petron Corp has borrowing of more than USD 1 billion. A 10% depreciation against USD will result in more than 2 billion peso addition to the borrowing in Peso currency.
Need to wait for Q3 detail result to work backward from Net income attributable to Non-controlling interest to get the NP for Petron Malaysia.
Your write ups on value of Petron is highly commendable. Any feedback from the IB and also wondering why Petron is not backing you and us to wanting to clear matters to benefit all of us.. Especially the fact that Petron has its own petrol stations plus also it's franchise stores.
I am wondering why NO response from the IB and efforts by Petron to address this important issue.
So far Petron Malaysia and Kenanga IB has not yet response to my email.
This morning send another email to them
Petron Malaysia projected net income from Petron Corp Q3 financial result announced on 14th Nov 2022.
Great job SsLee..Hope Petron and the IB's get a real wake up call to give their answers to your letter to them.
If you look at those Cattle Shows Beauty Contests, you can interview candidates and talk about personality, abilities, compassion etc etc and then determine the Winner/s
To sensationalize the whole issue in order to make money or to draw in readers/viewers, you can just measure the vagina and declare the winner/.s.
so you are not at all happy with his vagina measurements? He should have used a vernier caliper rather than just his fingers?