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Publish date: Mon, 16 Nov 2015, 07:47 PM
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It is human nature to be optimistic. It is human nature to hope. Hope is a component of a healthy state of mind. In our life, we must have hope to combat negativity which is not good.

Hope for riches from the stock market is always animating us.

Unfortunately, hope is a big money-loser in the stock market. It is hope that keeps us from selling our losing stocks. It is hope that stops us from cutting our losses in a bad business we invest in before they get bigger. It is hope that leads us into mania and buy stocks from rumours, hypes and fads and good businesses at super-expensive prices, following the greater fool’s theory.

But hope, begging, blind faith, wishful thinking etc., whatever you want to call it, deserves no place in our portfolio. It is a dangerous pitfall one should avoid.

Hope doesn’t work in the stock market. It is a hindrance instead.

 

I have written the pitfall of this “hope” investing strategy on one of the stocks, KNM, in my “Model Portfolio” one and a half year ago in the link below:

http://klse.i3investor.com/blogs/kcchongnz/51962.jsp

Six years ago investors of KNM were all with a soul full of hope as explained in the link above. They bought KNM at RM3.50 with the hope that its share price would rise up to its previous adjusted peak price of more than RM9.00 apiece. However, the soul full of hope turned into a hole full of soap.

KNM closed at 51 sen today. The loss is a whopping 85% since six years ago while the broad index has risen by 53% during the same period.

Today, KNM remains a hot stock, with all the headline news; of its securing of big oil and gas jobs (again), and all the hope about its recovery. Investment banks and analysts again are writing about KNM with bullish reports. Read these reports from investment banks. They are all “buy” calls, just like when it was 7 years ago when KNM was trading at more than RM9.00.

http://klse.i3investor.com/ptservlet.jsp?sa=pts&q=knm

Let us look at another hopeful stock in the “Model Portfolio”, Hibiscus Petroleum Berhad.

 

Hibiscus Petroleum Berhad

I cannot figure out how an investment process can be based on hope; hope of the opportunity to strike oil big all over the world while competing with so many other much bigger and more established international companies.

In fact, many investors (speculators) were so bullish on Hibiscus after it had made a qualifying acquisition (QA) of 35 per cent stake in Lime Petroleum for US$55 million that they thought their hope of becoming very rich would soon be materialized.

How not to be rich? The author in the article below mentioned that Hibiscus share price should be “a lot higher than RM2.00”. Just read the report and you will know how one wouldn’t get rich investing in Hibiscus at about RM1.50 then here:

http://klse.i3investor.com/blogs/kianweiaritcles/37280.jsp

With that QA, Hibiscus now has the world’s cutting-edge oil exploration technology, and they have countless licenses, memorandums of understanding, joint ventures etc. to explore oil in many countries all around the world, presumably they are more deserving than many other international oil exploration companies, because the company is led by a very successful and capable oilman, Dr Kennet something.

I personally am very sceptical about SPACs. I have read something about SPAC that almost all Special Purpose Acquisition Company (SPAC) went bust after QA from the experience from US which have these SPAC experience much earlier than us for many plausible reasons.

http://wealthmanagement.com/investment/staying-out-murder-holes

 

But for Hibiscus, soon after the QA and the numerous licenses it obtained, its share price was chased up by 80% from RM1.50 to RM2.70 in just four months from August to December 2013.

Hibiscus’s share price would just jumped because of rumours on when the drilling machine would reach the destination, and when it would start drilling, as if oil would definitely ooze out as soon as the drill rig is lowered.

Hope, plenty of hopes were in the air.

However, till to date, we are still hoping to strike the first oil, but already many retail punters were spilling blood everywhere multiple times as its share price has dropped by 32% from RM2.70 to RM1.84 in just three days just before the Christmas of 2013.  It then followed a constant decline as shown in Figure 1 below.

Last week, Hibiscus’s share price plunged by 48.5% from 51.5 sen to a close of 26.5 sen today on 16th November 2015. The share price of a stock which has dropped by so much from RM2.70 to 51.5 sen, and yet would dropped by another 48.5%, in just a week. Those who have bought it at the peak of RM2.70 would have lost a fortune, 90% in less than two years. Not a single drop of oil has been extracted yet.

Figure 1 below shows the share price performance of Hibiscus. You could see how its share price rose abruptly from RM1.50 to RM2.70, and the continued to drop, and finally a sudden plunge last week.

The reason given for the steep drop last week was coincidently, margin call on some of its major shareholders, something I have been talking against in my many postings in i3investor all this while. Yet there are still people propagating the use of margin finance in public forums where few people could handle it.

Have speculators and punters lost hope in Hibiscus? I don’t think so.

If you look at those investment forums talking about Hibiscus, the hope to make big money in this stock has not yet diminished.

Yeah, these are all the hopes. Lottery-like stocks like KNM, Hibiscus, like lottery tickets, offer hope of winning big. Most individual investors are attracted to lottery-like stocks, owning on average 90% of them.

But think and analyze, what is the probability of any of these hopes to be realized, and that the shareholders will enjoy reasonable return from their investments in lottery-like stocks such as Hibiscus and KNM?

Fat hope I think.

One should heed a prime rule of investing:

 “Hope” is not a good strategy in investing.

Avoid hope in investing and follow a well thought through process of investing in good companies when they are selling cheap. And then embrace patience and reality…however painful it may be.

 I hope you understand and know what I mean and what to do. You still have hope if you don’t, by contacting me for learning to follow a proper process when investing in the stock market to build long-term wealth at

ckc14training2@gmail.com

I hope you would join me.

I hope this is not a fat hope.

 

K C Chong (16th November 2015)

Discussions
9 people like this. Showing 22 of 22 comments

inwest88

So very true !

2015-11-16 19:08

dick20

thanks, kc. excellent article. if only people would pay attention and learn. but sadly many never learn!

2015-11-16 21:31

BuLLRam

Hibiscus.. 2.70 to below 0.27..any ray of hope left??

2015-11-17 09:47

pisanggoreng

MR KCChong,

Thanks,

Another useful advice to value investment.

Aim : not to lose money

outcome : always better than you have aimed.

2015-11-17 14:27

pisanggoreng

join KCCHONG on-line course if you do not want to lose money

if you do not lose in most of the cases, then you are safe

if you are safe , then you will win most of the times

safe is normally slow , but can be FAST and BIG also

2015-11-17 14:41

pisanggoreng

my recommendation: BUY GADANG

you can look at its PE & ROIC

you can look at its cash flow

you can look at its earning sustainability

you can look at its profit margin

you can calculate its intrinsic value

then come and tell me

am I talking rubbish here?

2015-11-17 14:50

kcchongnz

Posted by pisanggoreng > Nov 17, 2015 02:41 PM | Report Abuse

if you do not lose in most of the cases, then you are safe
if you are safe , then you will win most of the times
safe is normally slow , but can be FAST and BIG also


Yes, pisanggoreng,

You have summed up the gist of my principles very well.

2015-11-17 15:29

kcchongnz

Posted by cpnte > Nov 16, 2015 07:47 PM | Report Abuse
Yawn.. boring..2 dozen articles talking about the same knm. no other topic ka boss


Is there anything wrong keep on reminding newbies about the pitfall in investing?

2015-11-17 15:34

smetrader

We should welcome all trading ideas and sift through them and come to a result. Do not worry there are craps or otherwise. Why need to argue and critise against each other. We are all just human.

2015-11-17 16:13

kcchongnz

Posted by BuLLRam > Nov 17, 2015 09:47 AM | Report Abuse

Hibiscus.. 2.70 to below 0.27..any ray of hope left??


When there is margin calls, it is devastating, and hope diminishes.

Margin financing is not good for individuals. When individual suffers, the others suffer too. It is not good for the whole market.

The Shanghai steep drop recently is a classic example.

2015-11-17 20:04

Ezra_Investor

Posted by cpnte > Nov 16, 2015 07:47 PM | Report Abuse
Yawn.. boring..2 dozen articles talking about the same knm. no other topic ka boss

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If you think KC's article is boring, try reading Cold Eye's 冷眼分享集.
You will think twice.

2015-11-17 20:45

Anti_bias

To those who think KC Chong is great here he lost over RM 100K punting in Maybank C6. Hence he said he not rich or no money.
http://klse.i3investor.com/blogs/kcchongnz/58905.jsp

2015-11-18 03:10

jonbravo

GADANG!!!! BUY!!!!

2015-11-18 07:58

pisanggoreng

Anti_bias,


I think you must be the who missed VS and put all the blame one KC,

I am KC follower but I had made a big gain in trading VS because I know

KYY and his gang have big said in the price movement.


Posted by Anti_bias > Nov 18, 2015 03:10 AM | Report Abuse

To those who think KC Chong is great here he lost over RM 100K punting in Maybank C6. Hence he said he not rich or no money.
http://klse.i3investor.com/blogs/kcchongnz/58905.jsp

2015-11-18 09:20

pisanggoreng

Anti_bias,


If not KC I would not have still holding tons of GADANG and FLBHD which are exhibiting sky rocketing now.....

2015-11-18 09:28

TengkuFaisal

kc chong is the best!!
i strongly recommend him.

2015-11-18 09:47

TAFA

KNM order book must be full right now..they even have to rent my company yard now for fabrication purpose..not to mention that we are fierce competitor in shrinking market..

2015-11-18 09:50

pisanggoreng

Tengku,

I tell you one fact:

"BOTAK" always blames the barber.

2015-11-18 10:45

The One

Nice write up..

Also cant help mentioning XOX.. with a wow P/E of about 280 currently and with the hopes that it will make tons of revenue/profit beating the competition with the big players.. OMG

2015-11-18 13:30

kcchongnz

Posted by Anti_bias > Nov 18, 2015 03:10 AM | Report Abuse
To those who think KC Chong is great here he lost over RM 100K punting in Maybank C6. Hence he said he not rich or no money.
http://klse.i3investor.com/blogs/kcchongnz/58905.jsp


I don't think this KC Chong is great or what too.

But I think that article on Maybank call warrant is a good article to learn about option, its use as a speculative and financial risk management tool.

I also spend a lot of time explaining gearing, premium, intrinsic value and time value of option, and introducing the Black-Scholes option pricing.

Free education for those who are keen to learn.

Not sure how he knows I have lost RM100k, or I have and have no money. Don't you think this statement is a little bias?

So you "anti" yourself?

2015-11-18 16:58

mitras

eh eh..i lapar
i nak makan sarapan
i nak makan pisang goreng
mana pisang goreng?
berapa harga pisang goreng?

hahahahaha huhuhuhuhuhuhu

2015-11-24 07:55

mitras

pisang goreng oh pisang goreng
mana u pisang goreng
i gemar makan pisang goring

hahahahaha huhuhuhuhuhuhuhu

2015-11-24 07:57

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