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Why we should look at beyond Price Earnings Ratio - felicity

Tan KW
Publish date: Sat, 24 Nov 2018, 04:39 PM
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Saturday, November 24, 2018

 
 
One of the subjective area to look at in evaluating a business or listed company is not its Price Earnings, Price to Net Asset Value but its planning, vision, how it makes use of situation to make itself a leader in the future. Most professional analysts, amateur investors (like me) forget about that.

We more often than not concentrate on concession value, delivery, Price to Net Assets, total book order etc etc. Those are very much Graham and the old Buffett. The new investors including the new Warren Buffett, Softbank, some of the best PEs and VCs in Silicon Valley look way beyond what we see. That is why they were able to figure out Google, Uber, Grab, Facebook, Alibaba and many more.

I have to admit I do not have the capabilities and capacity to be in that realm. I do not have that opportunity as well as my universe of looking at companies does not include the very good startups or visionary companies that remain private.

However, among the local traditional companies, we can possibly decipher which company that look beyond its current as compared to those who do not. There are those we know is is danger of being or already been disrupted. Those are the transportation companies for example, media company such as Media Prima, TheStar for which I am not able to figure out where its future is heading.

The easier intangible investment is one where we see the macro picture - i.e. where disruption of affecting, and then we look at micro level and see at what stage is the position of the company. I will take one example. We know that e-commerce is in the midst of disrupting retailing, we then take several malls and try to figure out its positioning. Will it be disrupted? Is the space they are playing different. One example is IGB REIT. How do we see its future. Company or business like Mid Valley will not be disrupted like a taxi business being disrupted. It may face a slower growth. The much lesser malls may face a harder truth where they may not even survive at all, but perhaps not One Utama, MidValley or KLCC. They will face slowdown but not death in the short term.

Over in this, I would like to highlight 2 traditional companies where if they play it right, they can be part of the disruptor. If they are not, they will also be disrupted.

Airasia

18 years ago, Airasia was a disruptor to the traditional airlines like MAS, SIA. It is so successful, so much so that what we would have thought a business that is hard to survive has in fact caused continuous difficulties to MAS. It is now much bigger than MAS today and I am not able to figure out the survival of MAS beyond the next 3 years - unless there is another round of financial support from Khazanah.

Airasia, however is facing a new challenge. A wave of disruption to disrupt its own business. At the moment, its business model is being copied and airlines that are operating from a bigger airspace may want to eat into its market share. Its vast advantage in costs is also reducing as other airlines are now figuring out how to reduce costs as well.

Hence, it is now facing different challenges as it expands into other countries like India and Japan, 2 countries that are very different when looking at low costs tickets. India already has a very dominant low costs airline which is more competitive than Airasia India - Indigo. It is much larger, probably politically stronger and has more planes and better command of routes. Hence, Airasia in competing has to look at 2nd and 3rd tier cities. Luckily enough, India is such a big country that not one airline can dominate the airspace. It is more like China and US than Malaysia or Thailand.

To compete, I strongly believe that what the management of Airasia led by Tony Fernandes is doing is right. Going digital. By going digital, it is probably going to create that little inch of advantage as it goes regional. When Airasia was at its infant age, it started credit card purchase. That was a small disruption but its other advantages in the digital space was still early. Today, its booking system, checkin and others are ahead of many airlines including SIA - as I tried using Scoot. I happily admit Scoot still lose out to Airasia's booking system despite it not being perfect.

The community today is also more used or susceptible to self booking, payment, checkin etc. That is something which brings advantage to Airasia as it is trying to reduce its manpower per passenger. Airasia's digital strategy is beyond what I can imagine. I believe it is looking how to attract its recurring customer, minimising fuel costs, introducing new routes, new marketing channel, payment system from using its digital initiatives.

Going digital is what Airasia have to continue to invest and its push has to be continually better than others for it to continue to thrive.

Gamuda

Ironically, Gamuda is a company which I now look more in depth after the many situations where its projects was under the threat of being cancelled especially MRT2 underground contract that I now think that it is probably a lot ahead of other construction and developer companies in Malaysia such as IJM and UEM. My previous perception of the company, today I have to eliminate - not because I invested into the company but because now I look at the company more inept. This is because, my investment into Gamuda is still way too small to affect me, personally.

But Gamuda, with its group of management, knowledge depth has to be developed somewhat like Airasia rather than threatened. Most countries that are developed, has strong construction technologies and knowhow. We see that in Korea, Japan, China and previously US. We cannot continually be dependent on foreign technologies when building the country - like what we have done in the past government.

In my reading of several largest construction companies in Malaysia, the other construction companies in Malaysia - like I said even UEM and IJM talks about digital threat and taking advantage of it like how Gamuda sees it. This is unless these other companies do not communicate like how Gamuda does now - but I do not think so.

From here, I strongly believe, because it continuously in the discovery mode - like its investment in tunnelling technology, Industrialised Building System, this mindset is the right mindset for the future of the company. From here, as in any analysis, we should not just look at Gamuda's book order and how many future projects the current government is trying to introduce. We should rather look at how the company get readied itself towards the future.
To understand my writing further, do look at these companies Annual Reports and compare with its industry competitors.
 
 

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lizi

The world keep changing...so can u recommend which stock to buy and hold for another 10 years?

2018-11-25 10:22

CharlesT

10 years susah...10 months can ah? If can.buy AA

2018-11-25 10:27

lizi

Charles, 10 months for AA? U are insulting felicity writing on AA leh.....To her, AA is distruptor, like alibaba....btw, punt aa because time is ripe for special dividend?

2018-11-25 10:43

CharlesT

Play safe lah...later no sd n lousy q result on thu still can buy some time to save my face...

2018-11-25 10:50

CharlesT

Nowadays in bursa every share can drop...if i say i no scare then i lie

2018-11-25 10:51

Nicholasming91

Yea can confirm many also scare, sifu also will scare i tell u

2018-11-25 10:54

qqq3

One of the subjective area to look at in evaluating a business or listed company is not its Price Earnings, Price to Net Asset Value but its planning, vision, how it makes use of situation to make itself a leader in the future. Most professional analysts, amateur investors (like me) forget about that.=======

great stuff.....and its adapt or perish.

2018-11-25 11:30

hollandking

sifus also kena burnt,

2018-11-25 12:07

3iii

Post removed.Why?

2018-11-25 18:53

Jon Choivo

Don't get scared during Mega Sale!

Do you know how the name "Black Friday" came to be? Its called black, because on that day, all retail company's sell alot of goods, putting them "in the black" or strong profits.

In finance, Black Monday refers to Monday, October 19, 1987, when stock markets around the world crashed. The crash began in Hong Kong and spread west to Europe, hitting the United States after other markets had already sustained significant declines.

For me, this means, buy during those days, even if close eye,sure profitable.

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CharlesT Nowadays in bursa every share can drop...if i say i no scare then i lie
25/11/2018 10:51

2018-11-26 09:39

CharlesT

When i scare i tend to buy more

2018-11-26 09:46

godhand

CharlesT Nowadays in bursa every share can drop...if i say i no scare then i lie

no reason to scared. look for quality stocks to buy.
dont buy cheap ones.

2018-11-26 12:21

godhand

felicity is on point on gamuda. no local construction company can come close to gamuda. this itself is already the moat many people cant see. most of them are chinaman company which do not care to upgrade themselves to make themselves future relevance proof with the exception gamuda. simedarby ijm sunway might comes after gamuda but in no way close enough

2018-11-26 12:54

qqq3

my prediction for gamuda...below $ 2 within 12 months.

2018-11-26 13:06

godhand

qqq3
we are not god like u. u can pluck out a number from the air. please excuse me

2018-11-26 14:41

godhand

felicity is one of the few in the entire forum who writes by placing importance on company future direction and vision. who talks about business instead of number. who talks about innovation instead of account book. who buy based on future instead of past. The only few who makes sense when talking about investing.

2018-11-26 14:47

rajachulan

Gamuda in box adjustment 2 months now... yes it may be out of the box... but when? which way? why buy now and get your capital locked?

2018-11-28 17:23

qqq3

godhand > Nov 26, 2018 02:41 PM | Report Abuse

qqq3
we are not god like u. u can pluck out a number from the air. please excuse me
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u got godhand....i got godlike.

2018-11-28 17:56

qqq3

Genting Malaysia and Gamuda are both beaten down stocks...I choose to buy Genting Malaysia 3.02 today.

2018-11-28 17:58

qqq3

Gamuda...not hot on it....It is more or less a property share by now. and they better complete the MRT2 even if they will lose a lot of money otherwise Tony will be angry and ask them where are all the profits from MRT1 and the completed portions of MRT2......can get back from Najib or not?

2018-11-28 18:02

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