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信托基金的表现取决以它的经理人

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Publish date: Sun, 11 Mar 2012, 09:57 AM
Collection of KLSE.8k articles from a famous chinese forum in Malaysia.

He was a very dedicated investment guru who contributed his knowledge to the public.

I plan to share those old articles from my local archive to this community and hope everyone can enjoy and benefit from it.

More References: a post from another i3 member - http://klse.i3investor.com/blogs/kianweiaritcles/11579.jsp

Published Date: 2000-12-28

信托基金是通过收集小股资者的资金,然后交由专业的投资经理去投资。这概念是不错的,至少投资经理比起一般的小投资者更专业,更有机会取得较好的回酬。


投资股票讲究的是回酬,回酬的好坏取决于所投资的股项,而决定投资股项的人就是基金经理,所以一个信托基金的成败是取决以它的经理人。


在美国,信托基金在促销它的基金时是靠它的经理人的名气,有的经理人就好像出名的运动员或明星一样受人崇拜。世上最大的信托基金FIDELITYMAGELLANFUND就是靠它的前经理人PETERLYNCH打响名堂的。如果谁有幸在PETERLYNCH执掌 MAGELLANFUND 期间投资五万元,十年后他就可以成为百万富翁。(相等以每年34%的回酬)


在美国,PETERLYNCH有绝对的权利为MAGELLANFUND选股。所以MAGELLAN的成功就证明了他的选股功夫到家。


在马来西亚,信托基金操作的方式有所不同,他们标榜的是团队精神,选股是要开会决定的,投资大众是不需要知道谁是真正的经理人。这种方式的选股有它的好处,因为可以避免人为的错误,但是同样的也有它的坏处,因为每个人只会考虑推荐大家都看好的股项,这就形成跟风。这就好像下棋一样,如果三个人打一个人,人多的不一定占优势,因为人多意见多。


我曾经跟RHB信托基金的经理人有过一席谈,我们谈论了很多种股票,他给我的印象是他好像知道很多的内幕,最后我问他关于他基金所持有的某一只股,他才老实的告诉我其实他只是负责促销,选股是另有其人。


我发现到我国很多的信托基金也跟群众一样,股市偏高时他们持股的巴仙率也跟着高,股市偏低时他们持股的巴仙率也跟着低。原来专业的投资经理也跟群众一样,股市高时就多买一些,股市低的时候就少买一些。他们所买的股项也只是比群众高明一点而已,至少他们也有买一些现在只值三毛钱的低价股,而这些股的成本有的竟然超过一零吉。我当然知道因为我也买了很多种信托基金,我买的目的只是为了看它的报告书和了解它的操作,所以我只是每样买一千股而已。说真的他们所选的股有些竟然输得很惨,真的很想知道当初他们为什么会选这些股?到底是谁选的?


根据美国的一项调查报告,用三年,五年或十年为期限,在几千个信托基金里,能够跑赢指数的基金只占10%,有90%的基金是落后于大市的,这是多么可悲的事情呀。我相信造成这种差劲的成绩,主要是因为信托基金每年都要抽取的管理费所致。在马来西亚信托基金通常是抽取每年1.5%的管理费,比个例子,如果基金的价值是一亿零吉,它就可抽取一百五十万零吉的管理费,不管那年基金是输钱还是赢钱,总之一年就是1.5%。


我不是反对人们买信托基金,说句真心话,信托基金肯定比定期存款还要好。我只是相信用正确的投资法,我们可以做得比信托基金还要好,因为最少我们可以省下那笔管理费。


连PETERLYNCH都说,只要有小学程度的数学,我们就可以自己选股,而且可以做得比许多基金经理还要好。


股神WARRENBUFFETT也说过,这世上只有一件事情,业余者可以做得比专业的更好,那就是股票投资。

 

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stevenkau

In Mutual Funds, it depends the funds' sector to be invested in, and in that particular sector, what are the companies involved. Therefore, the Fund Manager's strategies have to be clear, whetehr he is adopting a passive or active management strategies, and either one will lead the market investors either win or lose, even though it is a medium to long term fund.

Other than that, we need to be clear that in the market, their is a manipulator, winner and loser. The manipulator will just look at the opportunity to swap the shares for the profit taking. Therefore, I just understand a theory that during the market investors greedy on the shares because keep buying in the number of shares, hence, we need to be scare(means we need to sell) because this is a trap, and in other words, when the market drops / market investors scare, then we need to be greedy of buying in the stocks, this is how the market plays because the manipulator will see such situation to trade.

Sometimes, when buying in a share, if it is potential, normally the graph will show there is a market wave, normally when the investors buy in, then there will be a market drop because the manipulators will purposesly push it down to make the investors scare to sell off...but after the wave, the market will normally being push up.

I also realise one thing, which when there is a bullish market, i quite recommend or advise investors to invest in Unit Trust, for index or index related funds, because during a peak, it is not really very clear what kind of stocks to be invested in, because the stocks will normally have been pushing up. However, during the market downturn, we should dump in to invest in stock, and bonds as well. Of course, such investment portfolio has to be paired with time, value, and the topic of the condition.

2012-03-11 10:50

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