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Operating in an environment of incomplete information
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Publish date: Fri, 10 Mar 2017, 02:13 PM
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Trade at your own risk. I am here only to vomit out my feelings
Stocks market is.................................Operating in an environment of incomplete information
People may think they are value investors but in reality, stock market is Operating in an environment of incomplete information
Let's talk about IWCITY .
According to The Star today,
Market value of Johor land $ 30 billion
Number of shares of enlarged IWH 4.3 billion
Re affirms Bandar Malaysia is part of IWH , but not included in the calculation of the $ 30 billion figure.
RNAV of enlraged IWH is $ 4.50 per share
What we do not know.....................
How much loans they have?
How much Redeemable Convertible Preference shares will be issued. ?
What does the pro forma Balance Sheet of the enlraged IWH look like?
Do the people who buy IWCITY today have the full information?
Of course they don't have ( complte information) because if they have non public information, if they have insider information, they could have bought it before today.
Making decisions in an environment of incomplete information.
Stock market is not about value investing, it is about making decisionsin an environment of incomplete information.
I think share market isNOT about value investing.
The value of a share is based on intrinsic values plus / or minus an X factor.
The X factor is generally very significant to the decision making process....some thing books never tell you.
The author has a small position in IWCITY.
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..Operating in an environment of incomplete information requires it own set of skills
more useful than accounting formulas and accounting ratios.
2017-03-11 01:01
Stockmanmy, your big talker only, don't ever claim yourself as accountant, you are no way is an accountant. How can an accountant forgo his pride by ignoring accounting formulas and accounting basis?
Posted by Ezra > Mar 8, 2017 11:09 PM | Report Abuse
Another case of know nothing, talking b***shit again.
Please go find out what is the return of Berkshire Hathaway, OakTree Capital, Value Partners, Scion Capital before you open your big mouth.
Dynamic Investing, which fund practices that? What return did they have? Provide with numbers and facts.
You don't even have an investing record for your own investing returns.
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2017-03-11 07:58
Never see any chef say no need to have salt & oil in cooking, you are just rubbishing yourself, stockmanmy
2017-03-11 07:59
This time I called Manny Sorchai.Go genting la.Sei Sorchai. Hindsight 20/20 already then only talk like pro.
2017-03-11 08:13
Retail investors competing with fund managers and insiders? Retail investors always left carrying the “bags". Guessing guessing and guessing, this is what sharemarket is about for retail investors whereas fund managers pay insiders for information and insiders do insider trading without being caught.
2017-03-11 09:40
rider...........
My competition portfolio is done in the best portfolio theory tradition. 10% in 3 months already exceeds all expectations.
2017-03-11 12:21
rider
Operating in an environment of incomplete information is an intrinsic part of KLSE, ...the case of IWCITY is just an illustration.
Value investing means full and equal access to all investors, that value investors have full and equal access to all information, that is clearly not the case in KLSE.
Firstly, there is a need for better guidelines in announcements of very material nature.
But, given what we have...forget about value investing, focus on acquiring other skills.....more useful skill sets.
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Stockmanmy, your big talker only, don't ever claim yourself as accountant, you are no way is an accountant. How can an accountant forgo his pride by ignoring accounting formulas and accounting basis?
2017-03-11 12:32
rider
non accountants normally would not even ask for pro forma Balance Sheets.
2017-03-11 12:35
I think .................Operating in an environment of incomplete information is a skill all by itself.
2017-03-11 12:37
whether it is retailers or fund managers doing the buying and selling I am not interested.
what I am interested in is KLSE having better guidelines for material announcements.
They have good guidelines for Circular to Shareholders already.
More than that, I want to point out the need to have a different skill set to operate in an environment of incomplete information, a skill set you will not find in CFA books, or investment book or accounting books.
That is because all KLSE activity is principally operating in an environment of incomplete information.
Posted by spinninglotus > Mar 11, 2017 09:40 AM | Report Abuse
Retail investors competing with fund managers and insiders? Retail investors always left carrying the “bags". Guessing guessing and guessing, this is what sharemarket is about for retail investors whereas fund managers pay insiders for information and insiders do insider trading without being caught.
2017-03-11 12:46
People think of stock market as if there are playing chess. Chess is a game of complete information.
They want to find their magic formulas and magic accounting ratios that will unlock the doors to riches.
In actual fact, stock market is more like a game of poker. and poker is a game of incomplete information.
2017-03-11 12:50
Fully agreed. You can't tahan for people self claimed a QUALIFIED ACCOUNTANT. wakaka
Posted by Risk Rider > Mar 11, 2017 07:58 AM | Report Abuse
Stockmanmy, your big talker only, don't ever claim yourself as accountant, you are no way is an accountant. How can an accountant forgo his pride by ignoring accounting formulas and accounting basis?
Posted by Ezra > Mar 8, 2017 11:09 PM | Report Abuse
Another case of know nothing, talking b***shit again.
Please go find out what is the return of Berkshire Hathaway, OakTree Capital, Value Partners, Scion Capital before you open your big mouth.
Dynamic Investing, which fund practices that? What return did they have? Provide with numbers and facts.
You don't even have an investing record for your own investing returns.
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2017-03-11 13:12
Not sure MIA would entertain for complain of people self claimed a Qualified Accountant in the public or not. lol
2017-03-11 13:26
Accountants, auditors & even account clerk see everything in figures and when come to purchasing, unit cost will authomatically appear in their mind.
2017-03-11 13:29
MoneySIFu. That's their expertise developed through associating with 0123456789 over times. what to do...Not easy change to abcdefg....
2017-03-11 13:33
Hehe, true, Up_down, it will never change, it's in the blood, if you see their blood through microscope, very likely you can see numbers beside A, B & O. I believe mine too :)
2017-03-11 14:28
silom and other dumb dumb kids...why you all so dumb dumb one?
I thought my wrtings have been very clear....what is so hard to understand?
2017-03-11 14:55
actually accountants are also human beings, they come in as many species as other human beings.
2017-03-11 15:00
silom....business sense is what I am talking about...even poker players need business sense.
2017-03-11 15:02
silom....no free lunch....risk and rewards comes in pairs.
but if want to learn some thing,
want to make it big
learn Dynamic Investing instead of Value investing.
Warren Bufett , the guru of all stock market wannabes lays a bet and says all the experts will lose to the generic index funds.
2017-03-11 15:13
silom...stockmarket is operating in an environment of incomplete information. It is not a chess game. It is a poker game.
2017-03-11 15:26
Only good point see in author is muka byk byk, sangat sangat tebal, lagi penuh dengan minyak. Saya tak boleh tahan.... Other that that, is garbage in, garbage out...
2017-03-11 16:06
Lupa cakap muka ada byk lubang juga.... Pls use sk2 miracle water. If u use I will buy that company make sk2 miracle water
2017-03-11 16:08
cheoky, the main ingredient for stock market success is confidence. Nothing can replace that. Let me tell you that.
cheoky Only good point see in author is muka byk byk, sangat sangat tebal, lagi penuh dengan minyak. Saya tak boleh tahan.... Other that that, is garbage in, garbage out...
2017-03-11 18:44
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This book is the result of the author's many years of experience and observation throughout his 26 years in the stockbroking industry. It was written for general public to learn to invest based on facts and not on fantasies or hearsay....
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2017-03-10 21:59