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THE RICH MAN & LAZARUS (Luke 16:19 -31) Sermon by Dr. John Sung of China (Comments by Calvin Tan)

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The Rich Man and Lazarus

19 “Now there was a rich man, and he habitually dressed in purple and fine linen, joyously living in splendor every day.

 20 And a poor man named Lazarus was laid at his gate, covered with sores,

 21 and longing to be fed with the crumbs which were falling from the rich man’s table; besides, even the dogs were coming and licking his sores.

 22 Now the poor man died and was carried away by the angels to Abraham’s bosom; and the rich man also died and was buried.

 23 In Hades he lifted up his eyes, being in torment, and *saw Abraham far away and Lazarus in his bosom.

24 And he cried out and said, ‘Father Abraham, have mercy on me, and send Lazarus so that he may dip the tip of his finger in water and cool off my tongue, for I am in agony in this flame.’

 25 But Abraham said, ‘Child, remember that during your life you received your good things, and likewise Lazarus bad things; but now he is being comforted here, and you are in agony.

 26 And r]besides all this, between us and you there is a great chasm fixed, so that those who wish to come over from here to you will not be able, and that none may cross over from there to us.’

27 And he said, ‘Then I beg you, father, that you send him to my father’s house—

 28 for I have five brothers—in order that he may warn them, so that they will not also come to this place of torment.’

 29 But Abraham *said, ‘They have Moses and the Prophets; let them hear them.’

30 But he said, ‘No, father Abraham, but if someone goes to them from the dead, they will repent!’

 31 But he said to him, ‘If they do not listen to Moses and the Prophets, they will not be persuaded even if someone rises from the dead.’” (Luke16: 19-31 NASB)

 

Calvin comments:

This life on earth is only transitory - 70 years, 80 years, 90 years or 100 years?

But very very short compared to eternity

Dr. John Sung had a Doctorate in Chemistry. One of China's brightest scholars - until he met Jesus Christ and got saved.

On his return to China he resolved to serve God by winning more than 100,000 souls in China, Vietnam, Thailand, Burma, Taiwan, the Phillipines, Malaysia, Singapore & Indonesia

What a man he was! He did all that in only 15 short years

 

This is one of the 40 recorded sermons by Dr John Sung

May all be blessed

 

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Dr. John Sung (1901 - 1944 AD)

 

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I.    HEAVEN AND HELL, From John Sung Revival Sermons

(Luke 16)

 

THEME SONG

 

If I should die, where will I dwell---

In heaven or in hell?

Eternal bliss, eternal shame

The choice is mine to name.

Only trust Him, only trust Him,

Only trust Him, now.

He will save you, He will save you,

He will save you now.

 

This afternoon I would like to speak on heaven and hell.  This is a most important subject, but there are many who do not believe in heaven or in hell.  Before I was born again, this was a perplexing question to me.

When I was nine years old, I saw a small black thing placed in front of our door.  I asked Mother what it was and she said it was a coffin for my three-year old sister to sleep in.  Mystery of mysteries!  I only knew how lovable little sister was, but Mother was referring to her death. entered the room.  I saw her lovable face now pale and white.  Her hands and feet were ice-cold.  I did not realise I had seen death.

I called to her, but she did not reply.  She cared not for me.  I came out and saw Mother's eyes brimming with tears.  I didn't know what to do.  I did not know how sister died.  How was it that I who was older than she had not died?  Just then, I saw someone lift little sister into the coffin.  I called out to Mother, "Why don't let sister sleep in the bed, but put her in the coffin?" Mother did not listen nor did anybody else, but carried the coffin out.  I asked Mother where they took sister, whether she would return.  Mother said they had taken her to the lonely countryside and she would not return.  Hearing this I burst into tears and wailing.

I asked Mother whether I would become like little sister and Mother said yes.  I grew more gloomy.  That night I dreamt that I died like little sister, and was put into a coffin.  I was afraid and I cried to Daddy and Mummy, "I won't die, I want to stay with you." I woke myself up with a loud sobbing which brought also Father and Mother out of bed to inquire after me.  I said, "I dreamt that I died.  I was afraid.  I do not want to die.  Death is so fearful.  It takes me to the lonely countryside.  No, I won't die!  I want to live with Daddy and Mummy forever."

Beloved brothers and sisters, are you afraid of death?  Now I'm not afraid, not a bit.  For man has to die.  No one can ever escape this check-point.  What is fearful is where you end up after death.  This subject is worthy of our careful consideration.  This afternoon is devoted to the discussion of this subject, that we may know where to go after death.

Vs. 19.  "There was a certain rich man, who was clothed in purple and fine linen, and fared sumptuously everyday." This rich man is what you would called a capitalist, even such an one as is found in Amoy today.  He has made a great name for himself on earth but in heaven his name is not found.  He cared only for the outward and not for the inside.  He lived sumptuously everyday, in wine and women. Now the Bible records no other sin of this rich man save his luxurious living.  Imagine for yourself: Did he ever look upwards to heaven or did he look on the things of earth?  Yea, he only looked on earth, on the present.  So did Emperor Yuan Shih Kai turn his eyes on the present world.  He did not believe in heaven or in hell.  He thought once a man died everything was over.  But remember, this rich man was a worshipper of God, a son of Abraham, of the elect.  Maybe he was an elder or deacon in his church.  As a matter of fact he did not trust God.  He was a nominal believer by his reckless godless behaviour.

Vs. 20.  "And there was a certain beggar, named Lazarus, who was laid at his gate, full of sores."

There was another man called Lazarus. He was nobody on earth but his name was found in heaven.  This man was sick with sores all over his body.  He carried the cross daily as a beggar, not that he won't work but because of his disabled limbs and sick body.  In our church today there are many like Lazarus but nobody ever cares, like the rich man in this Bible story.  These care only after their own comforts.  This is wrong, for we should take care of one another which is our God-appointed duty.

Lazarus though in such a sad plight never thought of doing evil. For he believed there was a heaven and there was a hell. He was afraid of the retribution after this life. Many robbers and warlords there are who rob and kill, massacre and plunder, and many capitalists there are who exploit and profiteer --- because they do not believe in heaven or hell.  Lazarus looked up to heaven.  He looked to the future.  In contrast, the rich man looked down to earth.  He cared for the present.  Lazarus, like Jesus, dared not seek for unrighteous mammon.  When Jesus was on earth he possessed not a thing, not even a place to pillow his head.  Lazarus was the same.  Lazarus carried the bitter cross daily.  In Lazarus we see a type of Christ.  Lazarus said, “I have no desires of this world.  I want to go to heaven.  Heaven is my home." Many have asked me, “So many in China have neither food nor clothing, and are dying of hunger and cold in extremest misery.  Who will believe your talk on heaven and hell?  If they don't take care of the present, how will they give attention to the future?  But I say to you, “If you believe in Jesus, then you won't worry not having food and clothing.  For, in God's Kingdom, there is the rule of love among us.  We take care of one another.  When we love God, we logically love His children, who are now our brethren in the same kingdom.  How can we see our brethren suffer in hunger and cold?"

Vs. 21.  "And desiring to be fed with the crumbs which fell from the rich man's table: moreover the dogs came and licked his sores."  Lazarus sat daily at the rich man's doorway waiting to feed on the tit-bits that fell off his table.  Nobody loved Lazarus.  For, he was a decrepit, he could not work.  Dogs were his friends, who comforted him.  When Christ was on earth neither did the people love Him nor receive Him.  He was assailed wherever He went.  He found his friends among the tax collectors and sinners, the despised of society.  These loved Jesus, who were poor and sinful, and a few others.  Now Lazarus' eyes were lifted to heaven and the rich man's eyes were fixed on the earth in abandonment.

Vs. 22.  “And it came to pass, that the beggar died, and was carried by the angels into Abraham's bosom: the rich man also died and was buried.” Whom would you choose to be of the two?  Who would like to be the rich man and who Lazarus?  True, Lazarus died first, since he was a poor sick man with no one to care for him.  But he was not afraid to die.  He was very happy in fact.  He knelt and prayed to Jesus, “Lord, I am coming home!” Was Lazarus' death the end of everything?  No, He was carried by angels to his father Abraham's bosom, in paradise, which is heaven.  This is evidence that heaven is real.  When I go to the villages to preach and meet with some old, zealous church member's death, it is one in which angels have come to receive the departed.  Now Lazarus could not afford a burial.  His body being discarded in the wilderness was eaten by dogs.  What a contrast with some member's death in which they make such a big show and celebration, and drum up with a procession.  A funeral looks more like a religious festival to welcome the gods.  Beloved brothers and sisters.  See what luxury must also be lavished on a dead man, and all this for what?  Was such a celebration made for Jesus' death?  But Jesus did not bequeath to this earth even one of his bones.  Sakymuni, Confucius, Laotse, Mohammed, died and left behind their bones.  Only Jesus did not.  Now, you spend such a lot on a dead body and what do you get?  Look!  This rich man has a five-storey mansion, a house full of wives and concubines, attired in velvet and eating the fat.  But now he is down with illness.  Around him are gathered his wife and secondary wives up to No. 7. These are trembling and at a loss what medicine the doctor should give to the rich man.  The rich man, afraid to die, gives in to a whirl of dreadful dreams and visions.  Could he now enjoy all the good things of life?  He couldn't even know anything about these things.  All he worries about is death.  Why?  There is the pain of judgment after death!  Could he know after his death the best of coffins they put him in and the best of clothes they put on him?  Could he see the farce they make for him and the noise of celebration that excel even a festival of the gods?  Those who come for the funeral and all the on-lookers make a festive noise.  Does he know?  How many fat members of the church, fat deacons, fat elders and fat pastors when they die make such a show-off in their funerals, no different from what was done for this rich man!  Their merry-making is to celebrate his home-going to heaven?  What does the Bible say?  Where did all his luxury go once he died and was buried?  And the burial ended everything?  The material and the spiritual parts of the man had now come to an end?  No!

When I was preaching in Shantung, a college student from Tsinan came to see me.  I asked him his philosophy of life.  To which he answered, “Enjoy-myself philosophy." When I asked him what would happen to him when he died, he said death ended all things for him.  I asked him if that was the case, why should he pursue his education and go to the university?  Would it not be better to spend that money on self-enjoyment?  He was dumb-founded.  Beloved, let me tell you what comes to end after death.  The body is finished, but not the soul!

Vs. 23.  “And in hell he lift up his eyes, being in torments, and seeth Abraham afar off, and Lazarus in his bosom."  How is it after death now?  The rich man ends up in hades, in hell, to suffer in the fire that is not quenched and to be bitten by worms that dieth not.  This proves hell is real.  So death does not end all.  Should you ask me where heaven and hell are, astronomers have observed a place in space where there are no stars, wide and empty in the heavens, surrounded on its borders by galaxies of stars.  This region is in the north.  This is heaven since in Isaiah it is said God's throne is “in the sides of the north." Where is hell?  In science you have studied that there is fire in the heart of the earth, fire that is of extreme heat.  Where did the rich man go?  Is it to the fire inside the centre of the earth?  I say hell is right there!  Now there are those who ask, “Since God is all-loving why will He punish men in an everlasting hell?”  But you must carefully consider this fact that God has given man the chance to repent, and has sent His beloved Son Jesus to tell that unbelievers will be condemned. Now, if you refuse to repent, what further can be done?  When you prick your flesh with a needle, does it produce pain in the flesh or pain in the soul?  Know this that without the soul there would be no feeling.  So, to keep on pricking when it produces pain is to suffer pain of your own choosing.  Not to repent from knowledgeable sin will meet with punishment.  God is a God who judges between good and evil and metes out the retribution.  This is manifestation of the justice of His love.  The rich man went to hell to be tormented in fire.  The pain of thirst in the fire is unbearable and he now realises his mistake.  He begs Abraham to tell Lazarus give him a drop of water to cool his thirst, but there is no intercommunication.  He did not look up to heaven until he was landed in trouble, but it was too late.  Here is a mystery: It is that after death a man's spiritual eyes can see great distances, from hell to heaven, but not while living on earth.  Because we cannot see afar nor into the future, so many are unwittingly seeking the pleasures of the present.  Hence the sufferings they have to bear after death.  Brothers, wake up!

Vs. 24.  “And he cried and said, Father Abraham, have mercy on me, and send Lazarus, that he may dip the tip of his finger in water, and cool my tongue; for I am tormented in this flame." Now the rich man knows how to pray.  Though he requests Abraham his father to send him help through Lazarus, it is not possible by reason of a great gulf separating them.  The rich man is all wailing and misery.  Despite his remorse, his loud cries of prayer, he has now to suffer the retribution of his sins.

Vs. 25.  “But Abraham said, Son, remember that thou in thy lifetime receivedst the good things, and likewise Lazarus evil things: but now he is comforted, and thou art tormented.” Did Abraham love the rich man?  Yes.  Abraham loved him and God loved him too.  God used every means of salvation to save the rich man, but he refused to repent.  Now he must taste its bitterness.  Dear brothers, God has used all kinds of methods to save you.  If you repent not, He has no other.

Vs. 26.  “And beside all this, between us and you there is a great gulf fixed: so that they who would pass from here to you cannot; neither can they pass to us, that would come from thence.”  No way out!  For there is a great gulf fixed between you and God.  Though God is omnipotent, yet He cannot help because you have not repented while He waited and now you are to suffer for what you deserve.

Vs. 27.  “Then he said, I pray thee, therefore, father, that thou wouldst send him to my father's house.” Ah!  The rich man shows love for his five brothers.  He begs Abraham to send Lazarus to go and tell them that they might know there is a heaven and a hell that they might repent from their evils.  But time did not permit this.  The brothers had others to tell them.  It was not necessary for someone from the dead to do this.

Vs. 28-31.  “For I have five brethren, that he may testify unto them, lest they also come into this place of torment.  Abraham saith unto him, they have Moses and the prophets; let them hear them.  And he said, Nay, father Abraham, but if one went unto them from the dead, they will repent.  And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead."

Abraham said, they have the Bible, the Words of the prophets telling them.  If they believe not the Bible, there is no other way.  I also did not believe in heaven or hell before, being blinded by a worldly education and scientific knowledge.  Praise the Lord, He has shown me heaven and hell that I might return to Him.  If we open the Book of Revelation we shall know what heaven is like.  What I say of seeing heaven is what Revelation tells us, they are exactly the same.  God has revealed heaven to us that we might understand the most beautiful spot on earth is not equal to it.  God has also shown hell to me.  When I was in the lunatic asylum, there was a patient warded in a room next to me. This madman would weep and pray when night fell.  He would recount the sins he had committed and bite his tongue.  When daylight came he stopped.  When night fell he repeated the same process.  This demented fellow would see flames burning all around him.  At first I did not understand this.  I asked God and He said to me, “In hell, the immates have nothing else to do except think upon the sorrows, and the more they think about them, the more acute their suffering becomes.  So those who repent not will have to face up to all these sins with increasing sorrow to torment them.  Whatever they think about will become their punishment.”  I have had this experience.  The more I recall the sins I committed the more I become tormented.  When I could bear it no longer, I remembered I needed to pray.  When I prayed all my sorrows vanished and peace returned.  Have you repented of your sins?  If not, you will never be at peace!

When I was preaching in Peking, there was a girl surnamed Chow.  She died at the age of fifteen.  She got sick at first for four months and was warded at the Central Hospital.  When she came to hear me preach, the Holy Spirit worked in her heart to save her soul before death.  After she repented of her sins, her illness worsened, so she asked her brother to seek for Pastor Wang (Ming-tao?) to baptise her.  She found peace after baptism, yea, even joy unspeakable.  Before she died she asked to see her father.  She said to him, “You must believe there is a living God." Father replied, “I'm an opium smoker and a great sinner.  How will God want such a sinner like me?” She said to her father, “God is love.  He loves sinners.  He loves you.  If you don't trust in God, I shall never see you again." Father was moved by her pleas, so he knelt down to confess his sins.

Now she asked to see her elder brother.  “Big brother,” she said, “You must believe in the living and true God.  God is love.  If you repent and confess your sins before Him, He will save you.  If you refuse to repent and believe not in Him, I shall never see you again.” Big brother was also moved to repentance and returned to God.

Similarly she summoned her younger brothers and sisters who also repented and returned to God.  She saved a whole family.  She was overjoyed.  Finally she asked her parents and the whole family to come before her.  She said, “My sickness is fatal.  Though I know I'm going to die, I am very happy.  For I'm going to a happy place.  Daddy and Mummy, brothers and sisters will all be there too.  We shall meet over there, and live forevermore.  Now angels are coming.  Jesus comes!  I'm going home.  Don't be sad nor weep to make me sorrowful.” Thus saying, she departed.  A smile broadened over her face.  She had gone to the heavenly home.

Beloved brothers and sisters, may you also prepare to return home to God.

 

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qqq3

winning more than 100,000 souls in China, Vietnam, Thailand, Burma, Taiwan, the Phillipines, Malaysia, Singapore & Indonesia.....
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all about winning isn't it to u guys.....

2019-01-20 13:29

qqq3

cal....those days are over...This is a century for Asians.....

2019-01-20 13:30

calvintaneng

I Remember John Sung
William E. Schubert

http://www.hograce.org/eng/document/Schubert/

2019-01-20 13:35

Sslee

Dear Calvintaneng
Human being is able to rule the planet earth because we are the only species that able to use our limitless mind to imagine and hence able to inspire (thro’ story telling, writing and speech) to unite us in thousand, hundred thousand, million or billion for better or for worse. The same imagination helps us in discovering many theories of physic, chemistry and biology for the advancement of science and for invention that help us to have a better life. Our imagination helps us to create the rule of god (heaven and hell) and rule of law so that our conducts are complied with certain rule for mutual benefit and humanity. Our imagination helps us to create value in piece of paper thus create value and commerce. Our conscience helps to guide us to be ethical and finally the vastness of universal and our inescapable final destination death helps us to have humility.

https://klse.i3investor.com/blogs/Sslee_blog/177025.jsp
What good is faith/worship without sacrifice/good deeds? If only everyone practiced their faiths by good deeds (Love God thus love everyone irrespective of their race, culture and belief) and not just words/worships then for sure we can create heaven on this life and on planet Earth. What good can faith delivery when it condemns all those non-believers as sinners beyond salvation and destined to be in hell?
Why the need to condemn capitalist when china socialism economic system practiced by Chairman Mao had consigned billion of his people to poverty and starvation (Hell in earth). Please give credit where credit is due to China Communist party ever since Chairman Deng open door policy and capitalism economy policy with China Characteristics has lifted billion out of poverty.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-china-46588650
Why the church is so obsessed with their faith and felt the need to spread their faith when they are pitting believer and non believer by their faith of afterlife (Heaven and Hell). Why their faith insists in only grateful and thankful to the one and only and disregards all human contribution and sacrifice by our parents, government afford and our own hard-work so that we can have a better life in this life and believe that we deserve to be in heaven after death if there are one base on our own merit/faith. Shouldn’t we encourage meritocracy system and condemn a system base on supremacy?
I rest my case

Thank you

2019-01-20 15:41

calvintaneng

Dragon,

I am a nobody compared to Dr John Sung

It's like a little candle comparing to the sun

2019-01-20 17:20

calvintaneng

Sslee

Dr Sung refers to the richman when he spoke about capitalist who has only focus on the earth. A person whose eyes cannot look up to the realities of higher things above. But wholly fixed on earthly temporal things.

AND HE mentioned that it was only after death that he "in hell lifted up his eyes" to see finally, but too late.

2019-01-20 17:27

calvintaneng

As to sacrifice all can see John Sung's life recorded in his 40 diaries, published in a book called THE JOURNAL ONCE LOST.

I just finished this more than 500 pp book.
My 3rd reading

THE Person who sacrificed the very life of life for us all is Jesus Christ

Through His Shed Blood on the Cross is the forgiveness of our sins

Salvation is not by human effort, work or merit.
NO one can be saved by good works.
Salvation is by receiving the Free Offer of Pardon in Jesus Christ's substitutionary death on our behalf

THE message is Jesus died for you, me and everybody in the whole wide world for time past, time now and for forever

2019-01-20 17:33

calvintaneng

Dragon,

Many Churches like the Bible Presbyterian Churches, Pasir Panjang Christ Church, Jesus Saves Mission, Chin Lien Bible college, Far Eastern Bible College and many other Churches could be traced back to Dr John Sung's visit to Singapore

In Sibu, Sarawak, the majority of Chinese there are Christians instead of buddhist

THE reason was Many Many Chinese became Christians during the Evangelistic Meetings of John Sung there more than 70 years ago.
THE fruits remain till today in Sibu, Sarawak

2019-01-20 17:42

qqq3

calvintaneng > Jan 20, 2019 05:42 PM | Report Abuse

THE reason was Many Many Chinese became Christians during the Evangelistic Meetings of John Sung there more than 70 years ago.
THE fruits remain till today in Sibu, Sarawak
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yes , very successful when people have nothing, not even a shirt on their back and u have Bible in one hand and gun in the other.....

times have changed.

2019-01-20 17:55

calvintaneng

Dragon
According to the Bible few people believe in the truth.

IN Noah's time after warning people for 120 years only 8 persons entered the ark(ship) and got saved from drowning. The whole mankind in his time perished.

When Sodom and Gomorah were destroyed by fire only 3 persons took heed to escape... Lot and his 2 daughters. The rest all perished in fire

So shall it be in the 2nd Coming of Jesus.

Majority will reject salvation. So don't expect all to turn to the truth.

Only a remnant will be saved.

2019-01-20 17:57

calvintaneng

Make very sure you are among the remnant

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2019-01-20 18:00

qqq3

cal

stock market and Bible don't mix.

no wonder u hold to Insas...

2019-01-20 18:00

qqq3

I don't need licence to kill...I kill first report later.

2019-01-20 18:01

calvintaneng

No. Kong Hee used unbiblical method.

Read this www.inspiretopray.com

2019-01-20 18:05

calvintaneng

Times have changed?

Maybe.

BUT these things are still the same

1. Man is a fallen creature. Dead in sin unless God imparts new life to him or he is doomed for hell. Religion cannot save mankind

2. Jesus she'd Blood will for ever be efficacious

3. HEAVEN IS A PREPARED PLACE FOR A PREPARED PEOPLE

4. ALL WHO LIVE IN SIN WILL DIE AND END IN HELL

5. THE MESSAGE IS OF UTMOST IMPORTANT

CHRIST JESUS CAME INTO THE WORLD TO SAVE SINNERS

AND YOU SHALL CALL HIS NAME JESUS,

FOR HE SHALL SAVE HIS PEOPLE FROM THEIR SINS.

JESUS DID NOT COME TO TEACH YOU HOW TO BE GOOD. JESUS CAME TO DIE FOR YOUR SINS ON THE CROSS AND TO SAVE YOU

2019-01-20 18:14

calvintaneng

Believe that He died for you.
Receive Him into your heart by calling Him
Confess Him before men boldly

If you are ashamed of him now he will be ashamed of you when he comes back the 2nd time

2019-01-20 18:17

Sslee

Dear all,
The ultimate sacrifice/good deeds without expectation as epitomes’ by Saint Mother Teresa of Calcutta devoting her whole life caring for the sick, the homeless and the poorest of the poor in the slum of Calcutta.
https://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Mother_Teresa

I cited her quote below to reflect her thought of humaneness, love, selflessness, devotion, compassion, empathy, sacrifice, suffering, pain, loss, darkness, hopelessness, despair, dead and question the absent of god’s mercy.
• I see God in every human being. When I wash the leper's wounds, I feel I am nursing the Lord himself. Is it not a beautiful experience?
• Don't look for big things, just do small things with great love....The smaller the thing, the greater must be our love.
• If I ever become a Saint — I surely be one of "darkness". I will continually be absent from Heaven — to light the light of those in darkness on earth.
• One day I met a lady who was dying of cancer in a most terrible condition. And I told her, I say, "You know, this terrible pain is only the kiss of Jesus — a sign that you have come so close to Jesus on the cross that he can kiss you." And she joined her hands together and said, "Mother Teresa, please tell Jesus to stop kissing me"
• They say people in hell suffer eternal pain because of the loss of God – they would go through all that suffering if they had just a little hope of possessing God. In my soul I feel just that terrible pain of loss, of God not wanting me, of God not being God, of God not really existing (Jesus, please forgive my blasphemies, I have been told to write everything). That darkness that surrounds me on all sides. I can’t lift my soul to God – no light or inspiration enters my soul. I speak of love for souls, of tender love for God, words pass through my words [sic, lips], and I long with a deep longing to believe in them! What do I labour for? If there be no God—there can be no soul.—If there is no soul then Jesus—You also are not true... Jesus don't let my soul be deceived—nor let me deceive anyone. In the call You said that I would have to suffer much.—Ten years—my Jesus, You have done to me according to Your will—and Jesus hear my prayer—if this pleases You—if my pain and suffering—my darkness and separation gives You a drop of consolation—my own Jesus, do with me as You wish—as long as You wish, without a single glance at my feelings and pain... I beg of You only one thing—please do not take the trouble to return soon.—I am ready to wait for You for all eternity.

Thank you

2019-01-20 18:21

calvintaneng

There is a difference between do good works for salvation and doing good works because of gratefulness

THE Christian does not do good work to save himself

Because by the deeds of the law no flesh will be justified. For all have come short of the glory of God

So a Christian is saved because he accept the full forgiveness of his sins when he believes with his whole heart that Jesus died on his behalf

AND AFTER he is saved he continues to do good deeds because of his gratitude to God

2019-01-20 19:20

calvintaneng

So doing good deeds to be saved is wrong
But doing good deeds because of gratefulness is correct.

Only in Christianity is the 'free gift' of salvation in Jesus Christ

2019-01-20 19:23

calvintaneng

New International Version
For it is by grace you have been saved, through faith--and this is not from yourselves, it is the gift of God--

New Living Translation
God saved you by his grace when you believed. And you can't take credit for this; it is a gift from God.

English Standard Version
For by grace you have been saved through faith. And this is not your own doing; it is the gift of God,

Berean Study Bible
For it is by grace you have been saved through faith, and this not from yourselves; it is the gift of God,

Berean Literal Bible
For by grace you are saved through faith, and this not of yourselves; it is the gift of God,

New American Standard Bible
For by grace you have been saved through faith; and that not of yourselves, it is the gift of God;

King James Bible
For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:

Christian Standard Bible
For you are saved by grace through faith, and this is not from yourselves; it is God's gift--

Contemporary English Version
You were saved by faith in God, who treats us much better than we deserve. This is God's gift to you, and not anything you have done on your own.

Holman Christian Standard Bible
For you are saved by grace through faith, and this is not from yourselves; it is God's gift--

International Standard Version
For by such grace you have been saved through faith. This does not come from you; it is the gift of God

NET Bible
For by grace you are saved through faith, and this is not from yourselves, it is the gift of God;

New Heart English Bible
for by grace you have been saved through faith, and that not of yourselves; it is the gift of God,

Aramaic Bible in Plain English
For it is by his grace that we have been saved through faith, and this faith was not from you, but it is the gift of God,

GOD'S WORD® Translation
God saved you through faith as an act of kindness. You had nothing to do with it. Being saved is a gift from God.

New American Standard 1977
For by grace you have been saved through faith; and that not of yourselves, it is the gift of God;

Jubilee Bible 2000
For by grace are ye saved through faith and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God,

King James 2000 Bible
For by grace are you saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:

American King James Version
For by grace are you saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:

American Standard Version
for by grace have ye been saved through faith; and that not of yourselves, it is the gift of God;

Douay-Rheims Bible
For by grace you are saved through faith, and that not of yourselves, for it is the gift of God;

Darby Bible Translation
For ye are saved by grace, through faith; and this not of yourselves; it is God's gift:

English Revised Version
for by grace have ye been saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:

Webster's Bible Translation
For by grace are ye saved, through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:

Weymouth New Testament
For it is by grace that you have been saved through faith; and that not of yourselves. It is God's gift, and is not on the ground of merit--

World English Bible
for by grace you have been saved through faith, and that not of yourselves; it is the gift of God,

Young's Literal Translation
for by grace ye are having been saved, through faith, and this not of you -- of God the gift,

2019-01-20 19:29

calvintaneng

I like Weymouth's translation

Weymouth New Testament
For it is by grace that you have been saved through faith; and that not of yourselves. It is God's gift, and is not on the ground of merit--

Calvin comments:

Salvation is by faith

Salvation is not by man's merit or doing good deeds to earn heaven

Salvation IS A GIFT FROM GOD.

2019-01-20 19:33

kilopo

In summary,there are many choices on earth. In eternity there are only two. What is yours?

2019-01-20 21:49

shortinvestor77

I choose Heaven of course. No point to be in hell. It is "Chinkat" to choose hell. Jesus is the "passport" to go to heaven.

2019-01-20 22:49

Sslee

Dear calvintaneng,
With respect and not mean to offense anyone allow me to tell my story when I first encounter with the church. I came from poor family and in order to get a free tuition during my secondary school day, I join a church bible study in order to improve my English. I was fascinated with JESUS history of love even to non-believer, his performing of miracle, his tenacity to drive on despite the entire obstacle and oppression place in front of him, his teaching of good against evil, his struggle for justice and against tyrant, his sadness and betrayal by his student, his death at the cross and his resurrection from death. For a man of such compassion and of love, I do not think he will ever condemn any of the non-believers as sinners beyond salvation and deserve to be burn in hell for eternity.
In later part I found out that the church is more interest in converting us (Boy) rather than teaching us the bible. There was this boy from my study group so influenced by the church that he went against his parents objection and convert to Christian and living in the church. (The argument was as what you wrote and even telling us (BOY) your parents give you the physical fresh “body” it is the father (God) that give you your soul and your salvation “God so loved the world that He gave His one and only Son, [Jesus Christ], that whoever believes in Him shall not perish, but have eternal life (John 3:16).”. Your earth parents are insignificant compare to (God) the father and we are now brother and sister in Christianity). This was my saddest day as to me my parents are everything to me. I walk out of church and never return again.

There are so many things good and bad done in the name of religion. If you believe in supremacy theory and your faith teaches you salvation is given not earned, I respect your believe and faith. I believe in meritocracy and my faith teaches me salvation is earned not given. So let’s agree to disagree.

As of question: Posted by kilopo > Jan 20, 2019 09:49 PM | Report Abuse
In summary,there are many choices on earth. In eternity there are only two. What is yours?

I aim to leave behind a better world than I first found it. I do not worry about what I am going to find in the other side of this world. As Hollandking once mention is this world real? Are we real? Are we just an illusion as what the Movie “The Matrix” portrayed?

And if you have gone through what Saint Mother Teresa of Calcutta had gone through and her thought of humaneness, love, selflessness, devotion, compassion, empathy, sacrifice, suffering, pain, loss, darkness, hopelessness, despair and dead. You will say I quote:
• If I ever become a Saint — I surely be one of "darkness". I will continually be absent from Heaven — to light the light of those in darkness on earth.
• my Jesus, You have done to me according to Your will—and Jesus hear my prayer—if this pleases You—if my pain and suffering—my darkness and separation gives You a drop of consolation—my own Jesus, do with me as You wish—as long as You wish, without a single glance at my feelings and pain... I beg of You only one thing—please do not take the trouble to return soon.—I am ready to wait for You for all eternity.

Thank you

2019-01-21 09:15

calvintaneng

Good morning SSLee,

My experience is different from yours. I became a Christian before I been to any Church.

Now that will be a story later.
As to the teachings that you were taught as a stumbling block by some ignorant Christian's that your parents are insignicant I think you have been misled.

We are told to honor our parents in the 10 commandments.

Honor thy father and thy mother that they days may be long

Do not despise thy mother when she is old

I know of a Lady Christian Bank manager whose mother is sick right now. She took 1 year unpaid leave from the Bank to take care of her mother. Her pay is 6 figure a year.

As to meritocracy in business yes. Singapore is a meritocratic nation. But since God's word says, "All have sinned and come short of the glory of God and there is none righteous, no, not one.

To go to heaven we need to be 100% perfect in thought, word and deed all the seconds, minutes, days, months and years of our lives. And there is none.

So the soul that sins it shall die.
One bite from the Cobra can kill so one sin, one lie, one bad word can kill our soul.

Only Jesus Christ, born sinless. Lived a sinless life could die for mankind's behalf.

And that is why in Christianity there is the urgent message of salvation. To tell others how to be saved by accepting forgiveness in Christ is our compelling concern.

As to mother Theresa what she did is commendable. But what she said is sentimental.
After a life of suffering for the poor on Earth she should realize that Jesus Christ is returning the 2nd time to earth to wipe out sin, suffering, sadness and even death once for all.

In the new Kingdom that Jesus prepares there will be no sickness, pain, poverty or suffering any more.

Because the former things are passed away

Some future day all our experiences now are called "former things".

So she should have said, "Come Lord Jesus"

2019-01-21 10:37

Lukesharewalker

Think we should stick to business talk

2019-01-21 11:06

Sslee

Dear Calnintaneng,
Good afternoon, if below video is your idea of Second Coming of Jesus Christ. Then all humanity should pray very hard that “my own Jesus, do with me as You wish—as long as You wish, without a single glance at my feelings and pain... I beg of You only one thing—please do not take the trouble to return soon.—I am ready to wait for You for all eternity.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GyFEJ-Cptr4

https://activechristianity.org/what-does-the-bible-say-about-the-second-coming-of-christ

The end times bring with them a lot of misery and pain. It the darkest point in the earth’s history, where evil, sorrow, and unrighteousness run rampant. Darkness rules the earth completely
At the end of the Great Tribulation the Antichrist will gather all of his armies from all over the earth to go and attack Jerusalem. (Zechariah 14:1-2) They will begin slaughtering the Jews without mercy. This will be the Jews’ greatest hour of need in their entire history. In his bitterness and anger the Antichrist intends their complete destruction.
But then Jesus and the saints will descend from heaven to save them! “Then the Lord will go forth and fight against those nations, as He fights in the day of battle. And in that day His feet will stand on the Mount of Olives, which faces Jerusalem on the east.” Zechariah 14:3-4. See also Revelation 19:11-16.
Then all of the wicked soldiers of the Antichrist will be consumed in a plague! They will dissolve completely away. (Zechariah 14:12) God’s judgment over the beast and the Antichrist will not be light. You can imagine His righteous fury over the ones who have tried to hurt and destroy and corrupt His beloved creation right from the beginning. Both the beast and the Antichrist will be thrown into the lake of fire to burn for all eternity (Revelation 19:20-21) and Satan will be bound in the bottomless pit for a thousand years. (Revelation 20:1-3)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hXynAPBDfTI

Malaysia is able to change the government without any bloodshed in GE14. So let all the peace loving leaders of the World to do something in finding a permanent peace solution to the Israel and Palestine conflict. And please do not add oil to fire by stereotype non-believer as antichrist, Jesus is my hero for his humaneness, love, selflessness, devotion, compassion, empathy to the suffering and pains of common people and his ultimate sacrifice. Please give peace a chance to succeed.

Thank you.
P/S: I will not comment further as I agreed with Posted by Lukesharewalker > Jan 21, 2019 11:06 AM | Report Abuse
Think we should stick to business talk

2019-01-21 12:50

calvintaneng

SSLee,.


You have showned what Hollywood depicted

Whether end times will be played out exactly like that I don't know.

I hope the world will continue to live in peace and harmony for as long as we can.

But you must know 1st and 2nd World wars happened in 1914 - 18 and 1939 - 45

We already have no world wars for more than 70 years now.

As to the future no one can tell for how long more will there be peace on Earth.

The Bible is a prophetic book. Since God is fore knowing. God knows the past, the present and the future. But fore knowing is not fore determination. God did not plan that Hitler should kill so many innocent people. But he did.

So is Anti Christ. God only tell us what Anti Christ do to destroy humanity.

If left to all his evil devises Anti Christ would have annihilated all mandkind eventually.

That is why Jesus must hasten His return to save us. Or else no flesh (not even one human being) will be left alive physically on Earth if he delays His return

2019-01-21 15:03

tessie63

to calvintaneng, your revelation in Christ, especially in your post on 21 Jan 2019 really well said. I like to read your post and also following your comment on stock picks as well. May you shine for Christ in the market place

2019-01-25 18:39

calvintaneng

Thank you tessie63
May Almighty God bless you

2019-01-26 16:52

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