The investor's chief problem - even his worst enemy - is likely to be himself. Benjamin Graham


#1 90% will lose money


From today, 90% of you who invest will probably lose money.


Based on statistics:
Of 100 investors,
1 may get 20% per year
9 may get 10% per year
90 get negative 2% per year.


Why do most investors lose money?

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Posted by GooShem > May 25, 2020 5:20 PM | Report Abuse

Fart this Calvin lar, loss like mad in netx

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calvin led many to buy at 2 sen and 2.5 sen. Some bought at 3.0 sen during the period before the naysayers brought some sense to his promotions.

Sad indeed.

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calvintaneng SS Lee

Like 3iii , Philip is now out of touch with how the current real market functions

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calvin tan of Singapore fame lacks humility.

In the absence of transparency, calvin is just a promoter, giving free tips to everyone for reasons best known to himself. I am very sure and very certain HIS primary objective is not to make you rich.

Have a good day.




Look at his recent remarks on gloves. Many whom he compared himself to, have made millions in glove stocks to date, quietly.

A lot of investors tend to extrapolate from whatever is
going on. Behavioral psychologists have a name for this. It’s
called “recency bias”.

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Posted by RiverOfSilver > May 21, 2020 6:28 PM | Report Abuse

The more days NetX stays at 1.5 sen, the stronger & readier NetX becomes to move higher.

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Poor chap. Probably need to sell 2.5 sen to break even, losing some fees. KKK, KKS.

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Posted by calvintaneng > May 20, 2020 2:52 PM | Report Abuse

True Sifu won't miss this Glove bull run which is so apparent by common sense

Cause and effect of covid 19 spurs demand for glove

Only See-Fool like 3iii can still get stuck in his dinosaur stocks while we enjoy Malaysia's bull run time in glove

So visible to all.

Only the blind will miss


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Singaporean with small feet in big shoes does not know about humility.

Sad.

Based on a simple pointer, calvin promoted his pump and dump play

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None of them have the motive of making you rich

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Posted by calvintaneng > May 20, 2020 7:58 AM | Report Abuse

Nothing is dangerous own its own if we live with intelligence and common sense

Even Japan which experiences 2 atom bombs has turned nuclear power to her advantage

All investment ideas should never be taken blindly

All men and women are equipped with intellect to discern and decide what 's best for them

If life all real estate companies advertise their houses for sale. So it' s their free advertising on media and on-line dangerous?

Likewise, car companies and all other goods as well as services give our free advertisement and even free brochure to the public

So are they all dangerous?

Such simpleton and simplistic thinking is so backward

I3 forum is the place to present helpful ideas for the fraternity of genuine investors

THE very fact that people come here is to find and share investment ideas

There are dangerous stocks like overhyped ageson or gpacket but few go there and warn.

There is also great good stocks like nylex, Redtone and this es_ceramic which some with small and jealous heart will deride

Truely intelligent people can discern what is right and what is wrong


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None of them have the motive of making you ric

Why free trading tips are dangerous?

In your real life, do you get any quality products/service at free of cost? Nowadays, you need to pay even for pure drinking water!

1. Why someone will provide money making ideas (stock tips) at free of cost?

Their motive is to bring back their existing customer.
None of them are doing charity.
None of them have the motive of making you rich.



2. You will get dozens of free trading tips each day.

Your broker is also eager to provide trading tips at free of cost.
Moreover, dozens of websites offer bunch of new trading ideas everyday totally free of cost.
Including Facebook and Whatsapp groups, the list of free trading tips provider would be very long.

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Posted by 360Capitalist > May 19, 2020 10:14 PM | Report Abuse

If we use annual capacity to make comparison between Top Glove and BIG 3 (Hartalega+ Kossan + Supermax), we may agree that Top Glove's share price is trading at 50% discount against BIG3 combined. Top Glove's share price is only half of BIG 3. ( RM10.48 Vs RM20.84 ).

With RM10.48 investment into Top Glove that has 91B capacity, we are actually making a good investment deal with 50% discount. Whereby you need to invest RM20.84 into BIG3 to get similar range of production capacity.

So, I believe eventually the share price of Top Glove will move faster to narrow the price gap with BIG3 when Top Glove releasing the QR report next month.

1)Top Glove 91.1Billion Vs 96.7Billion Pieces of Gloves (BIG 3 Combined)
2) Share Price :
Top Glove Vs BIG 3 (Hartalega + Kossan + Supermax)
RM 10.48 Vs RM 20.84 (RM9.01 + RM7.58 + RM4.25 )

Note :
Installed Capacity for Gloves Quantity :-
Top Glove ( by 2021 ) 91.1 Billion
Hartalega (by 2021 ) 38.5 Billion
Kossan 32.0 Billion
Supermax 26.2 Billion


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This is so stupid.

Please re-think your whole post.

Posted by Philip ( buy what you understand) > May 19, 2020 7:40 AM | Report Abuse

Hi 3iii, may I know where to obtain these statistics?


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Today

The turnover of 11.21 billion units was worth RM4.40 billion compared with 9.23 billion units worth RM3.87 billion on Friday.

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In our local news. From these data, we can easily derived the data below.




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Average price per share today was 39.25 sen.

Average price per share last Friday was 41.9 sen.


Penny shares on fire!!!
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Today

The turnover of 11.21 billion units was worth RM4.40 billion compared with 9.23 billion units worth RM3.87 billion on Friday.


Average price per share today was 39.25 sen.

Average price per share last Friday was 41.9 sen.


Penny shares on fire!!!

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liahhooi Buddies, Pls give me enlightenment. Just now at 2.05pm, buyer 5,000 unit Netx at 1.5 cent and seller 4,900 unit Next at 1 cent, but the transaction didn't being executed. Then at 2.21pm, buyer 10,000 unit at 1.5 cent , seller 4,900 unit at 1cent also not executed. Why transaction couldn't be executed at situation mentioned above. But at 2.30pm, buyer more than 100,000 unit at 1.5cent and seller more than 300,000 at 1.5cent. Then some transactions were done.
12/05/2020 2:42 PM


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WILL WE FACE ANOTHER BIG ONE?

AS FUTURE IS YET UNKNOWN CALVIN HAS ALREADY PREPARED WELL AHEAD

1. PBA. THE NO. ONE DEFENSIVE STOCK EVERY VALUE INVESTOR MUST HAVE IN HIS PORTFOLIO.

WATER IS NOT AN OPTION. IT IS A RECESSION PROOF NECESSITY.

2. OPCOM
CASH POSITION 20 SEN RM300 JOBS AWARDED WILL TRANSLATE INTO ANOTHER 30 SEN PROFIT. AND 2 SEN DIVIDEND NOW DECLARED.
A SPECIAL DIVIDEND ON THE WAY.

3. BPURI. ANOTHER FUTURE JAKS

4. DUTALAND.
BEST OF THE OIL PALM STOCKS

5. BJ CORP.
THE NO. ONE STOCK FOR THE NEXT DECADE. THE BERSHIRE HATHAWAY OF MALAYSIA.
OWNS AN ENTIRE MOUNTAIN LAND CALLED BKT TINGGI. SOMEDAY THE VALUE WILL BE AS PRECIOUS AS BANDAR MALAYSIA.

THE ONLY NICE UNSPOILT HILL RESORT 15 MINUTES FROM KL WHEN ECER TRAIN IS IN OPERATION
16/08/2017 9:47 AM

https://myinvestingnotes.blogspot.com/2020/05/why-free-trading-tips-are-dangerous.html
Why free trading tips are dangerous?

https://myinvestingnotes.blogspot.com/2020/05/short-cut-to-figure-out-fake-stock-tips.html
Be aware of trading tips provider.

A simple approach to the present bear market (fair value, bargains, value traps)


So the stock market has gone down the last few weeks. You as a value investor is excited, searching for companies to invest for the long term.

Here is a very simple way to look at the businesses that are in the stock market:

1. Those that are fairly valued, even though the prices are lower than before (FAIR prices).
2. Those that are under-valued (BIG bargains at present day prices).
3. Those that are value traps (the values of these companies may go down to zero, therefore these are BAD bargains here; avoid, avoid and avoid.)

Price is NOT value. Price is what you pay, value is what you get.

You are looking to buy GREAT COMPANIES AT FAIR OR BARGAIN PRICES.

You are also looking to buy GOOD COMPANIES AT BIG BARGAIN PRICES.

You should avoid buying GRUESOME COMPANIES AT ANY PRICES (VALUE TRAPS).


Wishing you success in your investing.

NESTLE Financial Information
Market Capital (RM)
: 32.408b
EPS (cent)
: 266.10 *
P/E Ratio
: 51.94
ROE (%)
: 72.70
Profit Margin (%)
: 12.2
CAGR - Revenue (%)
: 2.8
CAGR - PAT (%)
: 4.1
Number of Share
: 234.50m
Dividend (cent)
: 280.000 ^
Dividend Yield (%)
: 2.03
Dividend Policy (%)
: 0
NTA (RM)
: 3.660
P/B Ratio
: 37.76
YoY Score
: 0

* Calculated based on the net profit of the trailing twelve months and latest number of shares issued.
^ Total dividend amount declared for financial year ended 2019-12-31.

Nestle
Year ### L Pr (RM) ### Hi Pr (RM) ### EPS (sen) ### DPS (sen)
2006 ### 21.4 ### 26 ### 21.03 ### 4.01
2007 ### 23.4 ### 32 ### 124.54 ### 100
2008 ### 25.5 ### 32 ### 145.37 ### 190
2009 ### 27 ### 35.68 ### 150.02 ### 130
2010 ### 33 ### 45 ### 166.91 ### 150
2011 ### 43.34 ### 57 ### 182.14 ### 170
2012 ### 51.5 ### 70.2 ### 215.5 ### 180
2013 ### 58.1 ### 69.5 ### 239.53 ### 215
2014 ### 63.5 ### 69.48 ### 234.71 ### 235
2015 ### 68.5 ### 75.5 ### 251.91 ### 305
2016 ### 73 ### 81.8 ### 271.7 ### 270
2017 ### 74.12 ### 103.2 ### 275.39 ### 270
2018 ### 100.5 ### 163 ### 271.83 ### 275
2019 ### 142.1 ### 150.6 ### 279.07 ### 280
2020 ### 120 ### 148.4 ### 250.00E ### 280.00E
2021 ### &&& ### &&& ### 270.00F ### 280.00F

Suddenly a big seller appeared at the end of the day and all those who placed their buying orders were met at 138.20. Prior to the close, the price was trading at 138.70 to 138.80.

Don't ask: When to buy and when to sell?

Please ask: What to buy and what to sell?


Owning Harta and Topglove in my portfolio have been most rewarding over these many years.

3 or 4 years back, I added to Topglove and soon after its share price dropped by 30%. For two years, the market price was lower than my buying price. Yet today, both these companies have delivered very good returns to my portfolio.

Invest in great companies for the long term. It is time in the market that delivers the great returns to the long term investors. Timing the market is detrimental to the majority (90%) of the practitioners of this strategy; but the thrill maybe irresistible.

Best wishes.

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stockraider Just buy netx at 1 sen lah.............if lucky can make 50% just in 1 day loh.....!!
08/05/2020 6:29 AM

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Hengyuan target price 45
At 16 had a huge margin of safety :-)



A gambler to the core.

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Posted by qqq33333333 > May 6, 2020 12:00 PM | Report Abuse

Integrity. Intelligent. Industrious. 3iii (iiinvestsmart)$€£¥ Let the facts be known. KYY is a terrible investor.
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KYY is brilliant in buying. no so good in selling..............

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I have to disagree. He was neither good in his buying nor selling.

You maybe impressed by his buying but based on my observation, when a big elephant entered a small pool, the water level rose quickly.

Let the facts be known. KYY is a terrible investor.

Nestle AGM 10 am 30.4.2020

Singaporean small fly wearing big shoes. Deservedly banned for two weeks from i3.

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NETX


Time ### Last Done ### Vol ('000) ### RM

12:11:19 ### 0.015 ### 1 ### 15.00 ***
11:42:16 ### 0.01 ### 500 ### 5,000.00
11:42:05 ### 0.01 ### 500 ### 5,000.00
10:16:16 ### 0.015 ### 1 ### 15.00 ***
10:06:43 ### 0.01 ### 100 ### 1,000.00
9:45:34 ### 0.015 ### 10 ### 150.00 ***
9:07:24 ### 0.015 ### 1 ### 15.00 ***
9:00:00 ### 0.01 ### 50 ### 500.00


Total Volume 1,163,000
Total Amount RM 11,695.00



Dishonest raider is extremely happy this stock is at 1.5 sen *** today.

Kaki Kong Kaki Song.

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Many RM 15 transactions just to put the price back to 1.5 sen.
Someone is desperate to sell at 1 sen indeed.



Time ### Last Done ### Vol ('000) ### RM

10:30:41 ### 0.015 ### 1 ### 15.00
10:21:01 ### 0.01 ### 300 ### 3,000.00
10:19:24 ### 0.01 ### 100 ### 1,000.00
10:12:39 ### 0.015 ### 1 ### 15.00
10:12:02 ### 0.01 ### 500 ### 5,000.00
10:10:41 ### 0.015 ### 1 ### 15.00
10:10:18 ### 0.01 ### 500 ### 5,000.00
10:10:02 ### 0.01 ### 500 ### 5,000.00
10:09:33 ### 0.015 ### 50 ### 750.00
9:59:52 ### 0.015 ### 50 ### 750.00
9:59:35 ### 0.015 ### 100 ### 1,500.00
9:58:07 ### 0.01 ### 300 ### 3,000.00
9:57:46 ### 0.015 ### 1 ### 15.00
9:55:00 ### 0.01 ### 450 ### 4,500.00
9:54:08 ### 0.01 ### 500 ### 5,000.00
9:52:27 ### 0.01 ### 250 ### 2,500.00
9:50:28 ### 0.01 ### 500 ### 5,000.00
9:42:01 ### 0.01 ### 10 ### 100.00
9:30:02 ### 0.01 ### 50 ### 500.00
9:28:43 ### 0.01 ### 300 ### 3,000.00
9:07:21 ### 0.015 ### 1 ### 15.00
9:06:28 ### 0.01 ### 100 ### 1,000.00
9:00:00 ### 0.01 ### 300 ### 3,000.00
9:00:00 ### 0.01 ### 410 ### 4,100.00

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"Coronavirus cases in Japan may not peak for another month, so the markets will think that now it's Japan's turn. A state of emergency is necessary, but this could be yen negative."

The pound fell 0.26% to $1.2242 on Monday in Asia. Against the euro, it fell 0.27% to 88.39 pence.

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How to Make More Money if Stock Prices Rise and Lose Lesser if Stock Prices Fall than Other People in the Stock Market?



Benjamin Graham, a mentor to Warren Buffett, a living investment legend once quoted, ‘Investing is most intelligent when it is most Businesslike’. Thus, instead of treating shares like lottery tickets, we should assess the investment potential of a stock as if we are going to be a long-term partner of the company.


1. QUALITY FIRST (Quality of business and Quality of Management).

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True investors are cash-flow orientated. When they view a stock, they will want to find out its business model, its management team, its track record of earning profits and generating cash flows, its cash-in-hand and its future plans to utilise its cash-in-hand to generate more profits and cash flows into the future. This is usually Step #1 in stock investing.
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1. VALUATION (Price versus Value, Margin of Safety)

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Step #2 is about valuation, an art to assess if the stock is cheap or expensive. Its method of assessment involves calculating valuation ratios of a stock such as its P/E Ratio, P/B Ratio and Dividend Yields and comparing its with its past ratios in the last 10 years or comparing its with its peers of the same industry. As such, it encourages investors to buy good stocks when they are undervalued and avoid any investments which are ridiculously overpriced.

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The odds would be in favour of investors because they are encouraged to invest in stocks when they are undervalued, which mostly happen when the prices for their preferred stocks fall in the stock market. So, in the event their stock prices increase in the future, they make more money. If the stock prices decline in the future, they lose less money as compared to others who bought them at higher prices in the stock market.

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kc_lau Posted by stockraider > Feb 28, 2020 10:38 AM | Report Abuse X

U stay well with Netx....your Utopia mah...!!

Just key in & buy 1.5 to 2 sen, u never go wrong loh...!!

Raider already key in & wait, how about u leh ??

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Good Example how raider Holland the newbie at 2 cent
05/04/2020 10:17 AM


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(dishonest) raider will tell you a different story.