Posted by sunztzhe > 2015-04-26 15:27 | Report Abuse

Christensen, Albert Einstein was a German-born theoretical physicist who subsequently lived in USA after Hitler came to power in 1933. That being so, what is your basis to connect Albert Einstein to the deplorable state of the Malaysian education system after 50 odd years???

Posted by Christensen > 2015-04-26 15:28 | Report Abuse

Wow I am surprise Albert Einstein do not earn the lowest grade in English
I am more capable than him

Posted by Christensen > 2015-04-26 15:29 | Report Abuse

It prove the English is a good language to be great debater

Posted by sunztzhe > 2015-04-26 15:29 | Report Abuse

Christensen,
What is your basis to connect Albert Einstein to the deplorable state of the Malaysian education system after 50 odd years???

Posted by Christensen > 2015-04-26 15:30 | Report Abuse

Do human language changes over the time fade I am very interested to know it

Posted by Christensen > 2015-04-26 15:34 | Report Abuse

The problem with the language is that it kill creativity
It is like a bible you only learn to what the language cover
You do not learn anything new until a new word is made

Posted by sunztzhe > 2015-04-26 15:35 | Report Abuse

Christensen,
You have put forward to all of us here in this forum that you have no basis to connect Albert Einstein to the deplorable state of the Malaysian education system after 50 odd years...

Just for your info...Albert Einstein went through an above par excellent German education system...The current Malaysian education system standard is a far cry from the German Educational System standards.

Posted by Christensen > 2015-04-26 15:39 | Report Abuse

That is a lot of fun
I do not know how do you evaluate education standard
I had said everything I want to say
And I has no responsibility to answer anything that is you need to find out

Posted by sunztzhe > 2015-04-26 15:49 | Report Abuse

Christensen, The truth hurts right?? You have no counter-arguments to put forth that The current Malaysian education system standard after 50 add years is a far cry from the German Educational System standards besides stating that...
"I do not know how do you evaluate education standard"
"I had said everything I want to say"

Posted by optimusprime > 2015-04-26 15:50 | Report Abuse

dont just blame the education system, the smart and brainy dna already migrated. leaving the weak and slow around.

i was in an medical emergency room a while ago. there was a chinese guy (highschool) using very broken england on the phone for half an hour. the message he wanted to pass across to the side. (her sister, bro. etc) at times he get very emotional becos the other side misunderstood his meaning, so he was repeating n repeating.

the message:
collect my stationary and textbook and bring to hospital as going into operation n stay few days.


if the family is not of low IQ and EQ. then wat isit?

Posted by Christensen > 2015-04-26 15:55 | Report Abuse

It is far from German right?
It prove German has a bigger ball right?
It prove Albert Einstein failed in English but he has a better gene than us

Posted by Christensen > 2015-04-26 15:56 | Report Abuse

So the top grader in the education in Malaysia is just so 50 years backward compare to a German

Posted by sunztzhe > 2015-04-26 15:59 | Report Abuse

Christensen,
Does your response below have any connection with the root causal factors for the deplorable state of the Malaysian education standards after 50 odd years???

Posted by Christensen > Apr 26, 2015 03:55 PM | Report Abuse

It is far from German right?
It prove German has a bigger ball right?
It prove Albert Einstein failed in English but he has a better gene than us

Posted by optimusprime > 2015-04-26 16:00 | Report Abuse

when the human is stupid, they blame the education language.

i dont agreed.


korean also donno england well. look at their inventions??


that answer all the question why malaysia so backward due to education language no international.

the real answer. the student is stupid.

Posted by duitKWSPkita > 2015-04-26 16:06 | Report Abuse

Mr Koon is a brilliant and great person. He is so successful that every time to spark n pass down the ball(topic) and we pass it non stop days n nites.

He is reading ours and he will write something new next week. We shall see wat the new topic soonest.

Posted by optimusprime > 2015-04-26 16:06 | Report Abuse

taught in primary? i know of many pre-school kids already speaking fluent england. more fluent and depth than u hear from the average english speaking adult.

Posted by Christensen > 2015-04-26 16:14 | Report Abuse

Whatever happen in Malaysia education also happen in Germany
I do not think grass is greener in Germany

Posted by Henly30a > 2015-04-26 16:20 | Report Abuse

For your information "SAN TAI WONG" a type ugly truck uses by timber logger to delivery chopped log from deep jungle through roller coastal muddy road to the temporary warehouse is invented by agroup chinese educated or uneducated( super poor family)mechanic!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!Many of the tools used for mining are invented by chinese educated or uneducated tin mine foreman still can be seen keeping in National Museum centre .Please ask your father or grandfather if you haven seen it before!The latest invention of pendrive by Pan Jian Chong is educated in chinese school..............Sunztzhe, alot chinese educated or non educated died in deep jungle because involving timber logging or mining area !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!So,please don't insult them!!!!!!!!!!!!!!don't insult them!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by r°Moi > 2015-04-26 16:26 | Report Abuse

Ya... lament too mm... youngsters nowadays are not what they used to be.... they mess with girls.. power.. money.. and living too lavish a lifestyle.. apparently beyond their means

Posted by andychucky28 > 2015-04-26 16:26 | Report Abuse

Why do you think the malaysian student are stupid? Is it because they are taught stupidly or the teachers are stupid?


Posted by optimusprime > Apr 26, 2015 04:00 PM

when the human is stupid, they blame the education language.

i dont agreed.


korean also donno england well. look at their inventions??


that answer all the question why malaysia so backward due to education language no international.

the real answer. the student is stupid.

Posted by optimusprime > 2015-04-26 16:28 | Report Abuse

if u think all human are born with equal intelligent, u r greatly mistaken.

some apes are more intelligent than some human.

Posted by andychucky28 > 2015-04-26 16:41 | Report Abuse

Ya I need to agree with you guys, as i have some friends from Shanghai China whom speak very good English, also that is why they are doing great in China.

Posted by oldkoon > 2015-04-26 17:30 | Report Abuse

Chinese medium schools rake lowest in the world. Countless scholars are produce in English, German, Japan, Korean etc medium schools but not from Chinese medium. That is why China became backward communist country. Chinese medium schools only produce students good in copying other success or invention at lowest quality

Posted by optimusprime > 2015-04-26 18:26 | Report Abuse

5000 years ago. china already civilized with proper system in schooling and govt dept. they wear properly.

but even less than 200 yrs ago, the ppls in malaysia walking in naked. donno anything about writing. nothing has system.


this is DNA. chinese DNA has been refined and redeveloped for 5000 yrs.

Posted by fortunebullz > 2015-04-26 20:49 | Report Abuse

The real disaster is in the extraordinary presence of foreign workers in Malaysia! There is 7 million foreign workers! This is shockingly high! We are not that bad in quality of education compare to Thailand but it's the level of industrialization that we fall way behind! Malaysia value cheap labour rather than knowledgeable labour! Hence the presence of abundant graduates not needed!

Posted by optimusprime > 2015-04-26 21:02 | Report Abuse

there was a plane about to crash. 3 different race vvip in the plane. the pilot told them to wear parachute and count to 10 before they jump.


the first landed was chinese vvip.
the 2nd landed was indian (english educated) vvip
the 3rd, didnt make it, crash on the floor together with plane.

the first count: yat, yi, sam, si, eng, luk, jat, pat, kao, sup.

the second count: one, two, three, four, five, six, se-ven (note the delay) eight, nine, ten.

the third vvip count: sa-tu, du-er. ti-ga, em-pat, li-ma. e-nam, tu-ju, la-pan (plane crash !!!)


so everyone now u understand the important of language or not?

Posted by andychucky28 > 2015-04-26 21:16 | Report Abuse

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_paper

Do you know who invented paper which you are writing on everyday. So get your facts right before make comment, uneducated yet sensitive and stupid.

Posted by andychucky28 > 2015-04-26 21:19 | Report Abuse

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fireworks
Now you can see who is uneducated with no fact at all and like to twist.

Posted by optimusprime > 2015-04-26 21:23 | Report Abuse

waste time argue. all major invention are done by chinese.

even Broadband fibre that deliver your internet to u.

Posted by ckwan11d > 2015-04-27 07:09 | Report Abuse

Good morning everyone.

Posted by andychucky28 > 2015-04-27 09:24 | Report Abuse

Where was gun powder invented, as it leads to firearms which you guys use it so enjoyably killing each other now.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gunpowder

Posted by bintang21 > 2015-04-27 09:54 | Report Abuse

You better don't call Andy call "jia sai"
Itu gun powder invention has anything to do
With our deteriorating English standard?
You better buy more frontkn or geshen to not miss
the wagon of big fortune

Posted by Lan Yong How > 2015-04-27 11:14 | Report Abuse

Oldkoon brought many points about students from Chinese medium schools have certain attitudes.to go in depth good students go straight to Form 1 but those bad ones had to go through a year of Remove class where the time table had 2/3 of the periods allocated for Bahasa Malaysia giving these poor students time to brush up their BM many years ago.BUT when the Remove class was abolished the poor students had a really tough time catching up with BM.Imagine at std 6 these students study everything in Chinese,then when they move in to Form 1 they study everything in BM.The culture was of course great.Students from the lower socio-economic group suffered the most.they lost interest,played truant,then finally dropped out of school.

Posted by Lan Yong How > 2015-04-27 11:17 | Report Abuse

sorry, I mean the culture shock was of course great.

Posted by Lan Yong How > 2015-04-27 11:28 | Report Abuse

Only teachers who had started her/his service from 1970's can understand how the different education policies bring about the decline of the education system.They can only shake their heads in despair,many even opted for early retirement.Teachers are not politicians.

Posted by bintang21 > 2015-04-27 11:37 | Report Abuse

I already replied oldkoon




"Apr 26, 2015 02:09 PM | Report Abuse

beother oldkoon,

please be fair and honest, it is not the school that produce you so called shallow minded chauvinistic students may it be sekolah kebangsaan or sekolah jenis kebangsaan. do not blame the school, school is there to educate our in the model determined by our own government.

after more 50 years of merdeka, much effort have been done to unite the people of all racial, do we have achieved a united Malaysia? NO ! we see even worst than before. the malays look at the chinese as a threat to their special privileges, the non malays look at the malay as selfish and greedy beings to deprive them off the right to live well here as a rightful Malaysian.

why and where has gone wrong?

IT IS THE POLITIC !

the leaders now may it be UMNO ,MCA or MIC are different from earlier ones when had just achieved Meredeka. scandles after scandle, malpractice after malpractice, corruption after corruption,....

we are Malaysian , malay or non-malay, here is our home we should not allow any unscrupulous politicians to destroy our country. So we must stay united and convey the massage clearly to our leaders we want an education system to delevelop our people so as able to compete with the world outside , not to please any race, may it be malay or non-malay . if after multilingualism is more appropriate , why not if monolingualism is proven not feasible after 58 years?"

Posted by oldkoon > 2015-04-27 11:44 | Report Abuse

Not all students in Chinese medium school excel in their studies. 30% cannot catch up and lose interest in studies. Chinese medium schools put too much pressure on students. 30% will drop out and end up in hands of triads. Triads offer them easy way of making money initially. And Chinese associate those with wealth with status in community regardless if you involve in triads. This one KYY do not know, he is not even high educated, KYY syiok sendiri, not even graduate from university but came out from vocational government school. Now KYY so wealthy he hantam no think. If he know most of Chinese medium schools end up with triads, he close eyes only

Posted by andychucky28 > 2015-04-27 12:12 | Report Abuse

Okay okay do not argue. We are all here to save this sinking titanic. Patching holes like the 1MDB and GST will take you years.

Posted by Christensen > 2015-04-27 12:21 | Report Abuse

I invest in technology because I want to see new invention
Why do I invest to someone who is going to be good English speaker and start to complaint after you invest a heavily on them because they are greater debater than you

Posted by Christensen > 2015-04-27 12:33 | Report Abuse

It is likely to create a bunch of lawyer and fighting everyday days to nights over their rights
of course we need more English speaker in this country so that more and more people start to fight over their rights
It will be never ending
But I do not think it is financially smart by any mean.

Posted by oldkoon > 2015-04-27 12:42 | Report Abuse

Found this in internet

Many Malays would find Yew Yin's views offensive, extreme, and pro-Chinese but let's not forget he is a product of a system. So are we. The cracks in this system have also bred chauvinistic and dishonest individuals on the better side of history. This is the segment Yew Yin is referring to, not the ones who are moderate, hardworking and keep their noses clean.

http://laughingtigress.blogspot.com/2010/04/koon-yew-yin-ex-ijm-gamuda-and-mudajaya.html

Posted by oldkoon > 2015-04-27 12:43 | Report Abuse

Yew Yin declined to comment if he considers himself Malaysian or Chinese first. We will have to make an intelligent deduction.

Posted by oldkoon > 2015-04-27 12:47 | Report Abuse

And Yew Yin reputataion as dubious charater has been around since 2011

For a ghastly moment as I scrolled down your post, I feared a certain publicity hungry tycoon would be the one lauded. The one high up in the Malaysian richest list who had recently announced he would donate half his wealth to charity. Ha! Pleased I was that Koon Yew Yin from Ipoh is the so featured and not some mere titled filthy rich businessman of dubious repute

http://malaysiafinance.blogspot.com/2011/03/true-malaysian-outstanding.html

Posted by optimusprime > 2015-04-27 12:48 | Report Abuse

the topic is to discuss education system

bro oldkoon, why u keep talking abt the author?

Posted by oldkoon > 2015-04-27 12:50 | Report Abuse

Yew Yin recycle his lies too many times, here is his version back in 2009

I am a 76-year-old chartered civil engineer and one of the founders of the three larger construction companies listed in Bursa Malaysia. These are Gamuda Bhd, Mudajaya Group Bhd, and IJM Corporation Bhd.

I was a member of the Board of Engineers, Malaysia for three terms. I was also on the Sirim Board responsible in writing the Malaysian standard specifications for cement and concrete. In addition, I was the Secretary General of Master Builders Association, Malaysia for nine years.

These days, I am completely retired. My intention in writing this article is honourable. Many people may not like reading what I have written and the truth may be difficult to accept. Nevertheless, this is my considered analysis for the benefit of my country, the Bumiputera contractors and the construction industry.
https://all4one4all.wordpress.com/2009/11/25/malaysia-contractors-and-the-malaysian-brain-drain-by-koon-yew-yin/

Posted by bintang21 > 2015-04-27 14:25 | Report Abuse

oldkoon please stick to the point,

you have deviated from the topic to far out

if you want to attack KYY please write in you won't blog, that is not difficult to create here.

why keep on striking the emotion of forumers here

do not tell me you are that ignorant that you do not aware you are out of point in the discussion

Posted by bintang21 > 2015-04-27 14:39 | Report Abuse

KYY expressed his concern about the deteriorating English standard here, nothing racial , nothing offensive to any people , I don't see anything wrong . he is just telling the truth

it is common sense if you don't like KYY , then whatever he does or he says even he smiles to you, you will feel disgusting

so the problem is no KYY but YOU, your illed psychology

Posted by bintang21 > 2015-04-27 15:44 | Report Abuse

so do not worry we will be influenced or misled by KYY or YOU.

we know the inner substance in your or KYY talk.

but I really don't like the situation now we are facing as I have said before,
"the malays look at the chinese as a threat to their special privileges, the non malays look at the malay as selfish and greedy beings to deprive them off the right to live well here as a rightful Malaysian."

but to restore to the early days harmony of all races, is along and hard journey to go

a lot to be done but very little we can do, but to do, because we want everybody irrespective of origin to live well and well taken care of


so please if KYY is sharing his wisdom and experience to bring improvement, be fair and grateful because we want to live well


thank or sorry.

it is not my intention to cause any dislike.

Posted by Christensen > 2015-04-27 17:14 | Report Abuse

Proficient English isn't important
It is the effective communication that measure a standard.
There is no guarantee if you speak a proper English and people will follow the instruction correctly. or people will get your messege if you speak proper English.
Especially I had a difficult time to understand some top grade English teacher no doubt they are good.

Posted by optimusprime > 2015-04-27 17:15 | Report Abuse

forget it, bolehland ppls will answer your question as the question they would like to answer.