The Americans has the most powerful military in the world. They have been bombing IS for more than a year. By right they would have already obliterated all IS military facilities, right ?
But the fact is that in past few weeks, the Russians are the one that destroyed IS command HQ, weapon cache, suicide bomb making facilities, etc
Do you think the Americans are so incompetent that they were not able to detect those IS assets ? LOL
This must one of the most brilliant threads to hv come out of I3 in recent times. It's profoundly cool for a commander. Especially a Commander of Dreams.
To be honest, I had my own inspired speculations about Russia's real long term goals in it's latest West Asian adventure. But, I hv to be honest also, I wasn't genius enough to spot oil price as a primary objective.
Posted by Icon8888 > Oct 11, 2015 01:07 PM | Report Abuse
They want to topple Assad so that the Mediterranean Sea can be turned into an American lake _______________________________________________________________________
Well, one can always rely on Russia to call the bluff on some pretend, fake-phoney, disguised-as-something-else US strategy. They did it brilliantly with that proposed anti-missile missile sytem to be sited in Poland-Ukraine.
The Americans claimed that it was intended to defend Western Europe against Iranian missiles. But it was just in the wrong location. Besides, what Iranian missile could reach Western Europe at the time. The Russians knew that it was meant to set Russia up for easy destruction by a US nuclear first strike.
The base would hv been designed to mop up any weak Russian counter-strike remaining available, after it had been overwhelmingly crushed by a massive American nuke first strike.
But the Russians knew better. And they just told the US, Jungle George, small-dikked Cheney & all, to simply forget the idea.
This is what I am seeing. In taking in Poland into NATO, US-NATO is clearly encroaching into Russia's western flank. And US-NATO is now obviously thinking seriously of going even further, into Ukraine. But that is definitely NOT going to happen now, given Russia's current degree of combativeness.
So, in response to the Poland movement, Russia is going to take in, first Syria, next Iran, in a Russian-led West Asian coalition, to put Russian power right next to Turkey on NATO's southern flank. It's serving notice to Israel too, to quit entertaining any overly grandiose dreams of a greater Judea-Samaria. Checkmate. On 2 fronts simultaneously.
And when it crushes IS, Russia is going to get substantial goodwill from practically the whole world, Europe included. Looks like, it's going to be any which way but lose, for Russia.
Russia invaded Eastern Ukraine, US didn't even dare to send arms to support Ukraine
Because if US does that, Russia will escalate
When it evolves into a war, the U.S. will ultimately win, but it will incur huge economic losses as well (hundreds of billions). The Americans don't want that
To understand the dynamics between US and Russia, just imagine US is a billionaire, Russia is a construction worker
The billionaire will ultimately defeat the construction worker, but he will loss an eye and a leg. Billionaire doesn't like that, he wants to enjoy life
Well, any fight aginst IS must mean going into Iraq, ultimately. Becos Iraq is their real wellspring, so to speak. And I'm just thiking, if IS gets cornered until their back is against the wall, they might just go berserk and start disturbing or even outright attacking Saudi Arabia.
Russia's Syria move is brilliant. But they need to be careful not to overplay their hand. Be smart and remain vigilant. Keep their eyes on the prize. Don't get drag into a quagmire
Posted by Icon8888 > Oct 11, 2015 03:51 PM | Report Abuse
When it evolves into a war, the U.S. will ultimately win, but it will incur huge economic losses as well (hundreds of billions). The Americans don't want that
To understand the dynamics between US and Russia, just imagine US is a billionaire, Russia is a construction worker
The billionaire will ultimately defeat the construction worker, but he will loss an eye and a leg. Billionaire doesn't like that, he wants to enjoy life _______________________________________________________________________
No, I don't believe one can distil it down to something that simplistic. Just look back to WWII. Nobody gave the Russians much of a chance of beating Germany. Not even the US, who SLYLY stood back on the OUTSIDE, until Germany was hopelessly worn down by Russia.
And who says a billionaire always beats a construction worker. When it comes down to a fight, it's the one with the bigger, tougher heart, not the one with the most money, who eventually prevails.
Come to think of it, Russia does not need to do that much to cause a spike in oil price. Just push back IS into Iraq, right up to the Saudi borders, then lob some cruise missiles over, onto some Saudi refineries and/or seaborne oil tankers, then say it was an accident, that they were actually intended to hit IS targets.
Then ... pronto ... KABOOM! Oil gets back up to 100+ per barrel.
I am sure some Russian Generals joked about this when they started planning their Syria strategy recently
DreamCommander 764 posts Posted by DreamCommander > Oct 11, 2015 04:02 PM | Report Abuse
Come to think of it, Russia does not need to do that much to cause a spike in oil price. Just push back IS into Iraq, right up to the Saudi borders, then lob some cruise missiles over, onto some Saudi refineries and/or seaborne oil tankers, then say it was an accident, that they were actually intended to hit IS targets.
Then ... pronto ... KABOOM! Oil gets back up to 100+ per barrel.
Only it might not hv been a joke at all. The Russians are renown masters of the art of realpolitik. I mean, if were the chief commander of the Russian military, or if I were Prez VP himself, it would hv been something I would consider. And consider very, very seriously indeed.
Well, in that kind of Wild West scenario, or should one say Wild West Asia scenario, then 100+ would be a conservative estimate. A very conservative one.
I would not say that Russia is that bad, for them to make oil price as a primary objective. Anyway, they hv more oil & gas reserves in total than SA now, so they can live with cheap oil, maybe even better than SA.
But then since someone has to do the dirty job of destroying IS, and US seems to hv been pussyfooting around so far, with no clear direction or focus about anything, then Russia might as well take the job, and at the same time create other kinds of value-added stuff beneficial to Russia at the same time.
Dude, I'm a novelist wannabe ... If you would like to check out my draft ancient-warrior action adventure novel, well, I would not mind givin ya the ... ohhh ... umm ... err ... the link ... LOL
It's just something fun for me, Icon, and also relevant for keeping up with the latest developments ... Plus it's also good material for some casual conversation ... Especially with like minded ones ...
As for reading about stocks, there is such a thing called information overload ... I would not want to be a sufferer of that sickness, LOL ...
Seriously, though, I prefer to keep maximum free space in my head ... To maximise the gigabytes available for the most important things in life ... And making maximum profit does not mean expending maximum time or maximum effort ... Rather, the key words would be ... Focus, Clarity, Direction & Concentration ...
the biggest loser will be the IS .A group of idiots who think that they are almighty will soon realise that they are just a small little powerless pawns........
guess i wrote my statement wrongly @@...forgive me ....was just trying to imply that everything is part of the natural order aka cycle ....life cycle , war cycle , politic cycle , economic cycle , buisness cycle, and many other cycles and they are a norm. TQ.
This article look at the same issue but arrive at a totally different conclusion. Instead of causing oil price to spike, it MOSTLY argues that the conflict makes it difficult for Russia and Saudi to coordinate on potential production cut
to be frank.This is just a TEMPORARILY MOVE to spike the crude...we are heading towards more on STRUCTURAL ISSUE WITHIN THE INDUSTRY itself...just my humble opinion..At least the spike in recent crude price will help Russia allies and Russia currency a bit..:)
what we should focus more is the 'sincerity or ability' of USA government to tame down its own DOLLAR which is the PILLAR for everything. Therefore the DXY INDEX must be watch out this week..the ability to break break 93 to 90..thats SOMETHING...
"WAR" is actually will hurt more the world GDP and every countries in this world..which will create more harm in the long run..which at this point of time if that the SUPERPOWER to choose..its definitely we are heading towards what Quran said..what Bible said..what Taurat said..however, thats still long way to go..The INFRA within that three oldest masterpiece are not ready yet even though some said are ready.
Don't be preaching your personal spiritual beliefs in here la, ApaNama, kawan ... This is a stock investing forum, not a masjid congregation ...
What happens when other dudes start preaching Judaism, Christianity, Hinduism, Buddhism, Sikhism, Jainism, Baha'ism, Shintoism or whatever else in here ... Are you gonna just sit around & listen to them also ah, you think ...
Maybe you're trying to say that Qiamat is gonna happen in 50 years time, or 100 years, or 300 years, or 700 years time, I guess ... Well this earth has been around for 4.54 bil years, our sun 4.57 bil years, and our universe 13.82 bil years ... They're not all gonna collapse all of a sudden in the time frame that you might be thinking, you know ... Try reading some real science for a bit, instead of going around preaching what you personally believe all over the place ...
You can keep those things to yourself la ... Who do you want to show off your piousness to, do you think ... You show off or you don't show off also, God still knows the real genuineness & authenticity or otherwise of your iman, you know ...
Posted by DreamCommander > Oct 12, 2015 10:12 AM | Report Abuse
Don't be preaching your personal spiritual beliefs in here la, ApaNama, kawan ... This is a stock investing forum, not a masjid congregation ...
What happens when other dudes start preaching Judaism, Christianity, Hinduism, Buddhism, Sikhism, Jainism, Baha'ism, Shintoism or whatever else in here ... Are you gonna just sit around & listen to them also ah, you think ...
Maybe you're trying to say that Qiamat is gonna happen in 50 years time, or 100 years, or 300 years, or 700 years time, I guess ... Well this earth has been around for 4.54 bil years, our sun 4.57 bil years, and our universe 13.82 bil years ... They're not all gonna collapse all of a sudden in the time frame that you might be thinking, you know ... Try reading some real science for a bit, instead of going around preaching what you personally believe all over the place ...
You can keep those things to yourself la ... Who do you want to show off your piousness to, do you think ... You show off or you don't show off also, God still knows the real genuineness & authenticity or otherwise of your iman, you know ...
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