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cheoky

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Posted by cheoky > 2016-11-26 17:18 | Report Abuse

i think uncle koon should just retired from stock market commentary. so rich already. Occasionally eating grapes, blur out something, then rationalizing it as the right path. If he want to help retailer investor, write a book to share his knowledge, show it under the sun for people to analysis its reasoning. I am doubtful if he can write a book on investing as sometimes his reasoning cant withstand the strong query from multiple angles. in my opinion la. pls dont search my ic. I am just a peanut investor.

Btw, Mr calvin, Stock Performance Guide is just listing the companies historical performance. Got teach lesson of investing????

Dr Neoh did say this? quote "About 30 years ago my wife and I attended a charting course by Mr Neoh Soon Kean, the producer of Stock Performance Guide, who was then lecturing in the University of Malaysia. He said that you must buy only up trending stocks and never buy down trending stocks because you do not know how long you have to wait to sell at a price higher than your purchase price. The down trend can last more than one year." True or not? Felt Dr Neoh is fundamental based investor

Sales

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Posted by Sales > 2016-11-26 17:22 | Report Abuse

Stockraider we like your comment. We need someone like you. Thanks for the comment. May God bless you!

cheoky

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Posted by cheoky > 2016-11-26 17:23 | Report Abuse

Calvin, Stock Peformance Guide pp 238 is Scomi Enery Services Bhd la.. hahaha. Where to get that Dr Neoh book.

cheoky

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Posted by cheoky > 2016-11-26 17:27 | Report Abuse

still dont believe Dr Neoh blur this statement out. Quote "About 30 years ago my wife and I attended a charting course by Mr Neoh Soon Kean, the producer of Stock Performance Guide, who was then lecturing in the University of Malaysia. He said that you must buy only up trending stocks and never buy down trending stocks because you do not know how long you have to wait to sell at a price higher than your purchase price. The down trend can last more than one year."

With higher price means lesser margin of safety right? come from Dr Neoh horse mouth or from the mix-up memory of Uncle koon?

Posted by shortinvestor77 > 2016-11-26 20:53 | Report Abuse

Less attack. K

calvintaneng

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Posted by calvintaneng > 2016-11-26 21:38 | Report Abuse

cheoky i think uncle koon should just retired from stock market commentary. so rich already. Occasionally eating grapes, blur out something, then rationalizing it as the right path. If he want to help retailer investor, write a book to share his knowledge, show it under the sun for people to analysis its reasoning. I am doubtful if he can write a book on investing as sometimes his reasoning cant withstand the strong query from multiple angles. in my opinion la. pls dont search my ic. I am just a peanut investor.

Btw, Mr calvin, Stock Performance Guide is just listing the companies historical performance. Got teach lesson of investing????

Dr Neoh did say this? quote "About 30 years ago my wife and I attended a charting course by Mr Neoh Soon Kean, the producer of Stock Performance Guide, who was then lecturing in the University of Malaysia. He said that you must buy only up trending stocks and never buy down trending stocks because you do not know how long you have to wait to sell at a price higher than your purchase price. The down trend can last more than one year." True or not? Felt Dr Neoh is fundamental based investor
26/11/2016 17:18

Calvin replies:

Yes, Cheoky,

Sorry for the wrong reference

It is from the Book called

STOCK MARKET INVESTMENT In Malaysia and Singapore by Dr Neoh Soon Kean. Printed in year 1985

RyanC

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Posted by RyanC > 2016-11-26 22:49 | Report Abuse

I just keep quiet because I do not like to attack any writer in I3 - ???
Sure or not?

Posted by Ooi Teik Bee > Nov 25, 2016 10:32 PM | Report Abuse

Calvin can share his stocks picked to everyone as a reference. We can select them and invest if we feel confident.

I do not like Calvin attacked many writers and recommended his stocks to override the writers. If he is good, I appreciate his sharing.

Most of the times, I check his stock selections, most of them are lousy stocks in term of fundamental. In term of TA, they are down trending. I just keep quiet because I do not like to attack any writer in I3.

Most of his actions are very irritating and he does not show any respect for others.

Hope he can improve after reading this posting. It is not an attack, I say it out sincerely from the bottom of my heart.

Thank you.
Ooi
26/11/2016 11:49

stockmanmy

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Posted by stockmanmy > 2016-11-26 22:52 | Report Abuse

I bought some Gadang at $ 2.20 and sold at $2.70. , never bought any during the final surge as I deem it too risky.

U1818

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Posted by U1818 > 2016-11-27 09:38 | Report Abuse

https://youtu.be/Uf3gBvb6DYA

choop818

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Posted by choop818 > 2016-11-27 11:58 | Report Abuse

I like stocktrader and icon8888 for their rational and fair comments. Some are too emotional to be intelligible and incoherent.

stockraider

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Posted by stockraider > 2016-11-27 12:58 | Report Abuse

Posted by stockraider > Nov 27, 2016 12:35 AM | Report Abuse X

Again what KYY says is the future growth in profit....and not the historical profit mah....!! That determine stock price loh..!!

U must understand KYY is a momentum stock investor loh...!!

Thats why the kyy golden rule is formulated mah....!!
It is nothing new....all analyst look at growth in quarterly profit to assess the stock prospect mah......!!

How they derive growth....by looking back to the latest earnings growth...and doing some scuttle butt assessment on business prospect loh....!!

stockraider

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Posted by stockraider > 2016-11-27 13:00 | Report Abuse

Instead of talking about Gadang....everybody attacking KYY.

Kyy not being doing well prior...to 2014...but he is doing exttremely well in export theme counters from 2014 to early 2016.

His stock run up more than 100% pa....and he buy very big mah....that what raider see a good investor should be mah....!!

Counter like VS, Liihen, FLB, Latitude all showed more than 100% gain with very big position exposure mah....!!

KYY also sell off with a very good price too loh....!!
When he sell off ...early everybody complain....if not informing them early loh.....!!
Now on Gadang....KYY sell off....early....informing people early..some people still mark around....complaining and attacking him loh...!!

Actually Tycoon...like KYY....don really...need to take advantage of I3 investors loh....how much can he gain from these people ??
If u buy or sell....how much can push up and pull down the share price leh ??

He just try to be nice and pass some free time....involve with blogging mah.....!!

Of course KYY....will need to sell...when his golden rule is broken.mah.....and this is done quickly....U cannot expect to stop his action and tell u he is selling loh....!!

So u all need to panlai mah...!! Start learning and take responsibility ....also u need to assess whoever stock recommendation not only kyy loh....!

stockraider

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Posted by stockraider > 2016-11-27 13:14 | Report Abuse

One thing raider want to correct KYY and Calvin....is that DR Neoh never...never advocate buying stock or selling based on quaterly gain or fall in eps growth 30 yrs ago loh....!!

Raider bcos ....raiderknow bcos at that time, raider is working with Dr Neoh... he was still the Lecturer with USM in penang mah...!!

Dr Neoh....believe in the "loser game theory"....a contraian investment approach...buying a good stock in a market that people fear and dislike..in order words buying good stock that not so well known, neglected and inactive loh..!! ...thats is completely different from KYY claim.

Raider think KYY may have forgotten maybe he learn from some other professor 30 yrs ago and not Dr Neoh loh.....!!

Calvin...pls refer to ur books which was written in 1984....where DR Neoh says that ??
I think not mention in the book loh.....!!

Bcos it totally conflict with Dr Neoh formula....which follow Ben Graham approach...'The intelligent investor formula mah !!"

CharlesT

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Posted by CharlesT > 2016-11-27 13:18 | Report Abuse

I believe koon mistook otb's up trending stocks theory with Dr.neoh

stockraider

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Posted by stockraider > 2016-11-27 15:11 | Report Abuse

Raider use a multi dimension investing strategy that is applicable different time loh....!!

Like

1. Momentum ...KYY style

2. Margin of safety...long holding play

3. Yield play...like Reach....sona...cliq...lock into high yield and wait for liqquidation

4. Contraian play.....like major selldown panic...u brave balls buy.

5. Dividend yield play, hold for recurring sustainable income.

6. Short term Speculative momentum play with cut loss safeguard

U must understand....generally stock market is a loser game....if something is popular for sometime...U need to be becareful...!!

If something too good to be true...it is probably is loh...!!

RAIDER IS ACTUALLY NOT DEFENDING KYY......BUT RAIDER HOW TO USE THE KYY TYPE OF MOMENTUM INVESTMENT OR THE GOLDEN RULE....THAT MEANS U MUST BE DISCIPLINE AND FOLLOW THE SYSTEM.

U MUST UNDERSTAND WHAT QUICK ACTION U NEED TO TAKE MAH...!!

IF THE RULE TRIGGER WHETHER ON THE BUY OR SELL SIDE....U MUST SWIFTLY IMPLEMENT THE REQUIRED ACTION MAH...!!

THERE IS NOT BEATING ROUND THE BUSH...LIKE THIS AND THAT MAH....!!

CharlesT

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Posted by CharlesT > 2016-11-27 15:16 | Report Abuse

4.contrarian play-buy reach-wa at 5-6 cents few days b4 QA n sell at 9-9.5 cents after QA passed

stockraider

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Posted by stockraider > 2016-11-27 15:22 | Report Abuse

Ya charles too risky to play B4 QA....what happen not successful QA leh ??

It is better to go in after QA outcome loh.....!!
Anyway still can enter at Rm 0.07 to Rm 0.075 mah...!!

CharlesT

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Posted by CharlesT > 2016-11-27 15:26 | Report Abuse

We study thru n made our bet...anyway I also never expect that we could re enter at 7 cents+

stockraider

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Posted by stockraider > 2016-11-27 15:32 | Report Abuse

The upside after successful QA is not so much....not worth such a high risk gamble to buy b4 QA mah.....!!

Also the rebound window....to take profit is very short & margin below expectation....alot of people also miss mah.....!!

So u buy even at rm 0.08 after QA still quite ok mah....!!

Up_down

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Posted by Up_down > 2016-11-27 17:58 | Report Abuse

Raider. Trump pledged a strong promise to rebuild US internally. He may pump a lot of money in building infrastructure US during his term. what do you think the sector that would directly or in directly benefited by Malaysia companies?

stockraider

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Posted by stockraider > 2016-11-27 21:13 | Report Abuse

Commodities usually will benefit...comprises of Steel, copper, aluminum, tin, nickel etc loh....!!

Plastic materials, cement,aggregrates, timber, rubber also loh...!!

For msia export orientated companies is the major bets loh...!!

Local imports and domestic business will suffer the most loh...!!

xuewen888

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Posted by xuewen888 > 2016-11-27 21:47 | Report Abuse

Uncle koon is the only wisman in i3, who said calvin is real master, he must be crasy & fake one.

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